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Apple Lowers Prices of iPhones, iPads, Macs, AirPods, and More in China as VAT Cut Takes Effect
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This.
Throughout Europe at least, where gross prices including VAT are advertised, they've always adjusted prices for existing products according to the change in VAT tax rate. To the cent and penny, even if the resulting prices looked a bit awkward.
Example:
Before (tax rate at 20%):
832.50€ (net price)
+ 20% * 832.50 = 166.50
= 999.00 (gross price including VAT)
After (new tax rate at 17%):
832.50€
+ 17% * = 141.53€
= 974.03€
Thanks for the answer and I’ll write you a bigger answer soon. I’m short on time this moment. I’m a graphic designer and hobby photographer, videographer . I’ve the Sony A 6500 and am looking with envy to yours
I’ll write more in mail soon. Otherwise it’s getting deleted for being off topic I’m afraid. Have a good day 
Oh yeah. For some reason I didn't realize this was in the main news forum. Whoops. I had been busy commenting a bunch in the iMac forum since I just got one. They usually police those less strictly and nobody cares about side conversation. Oh well!Thanks for the answer and I’ll write you a bigger answer soon. I’m short on time this moment. I’m a graphic designer and hobby photographer, videographer . I’ve the Sony A 6500 and am looking with envy to yours
Yup, was going to say the same thing - do people in the US know that Apple is charging 2700$ for an iMac with 8gb and a 5400RPM harddrive here?
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If you think Apple prices are high in the US, check out this link here:
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They lowered them in the US and raised them in Europe. For the iMac, they raised them by roughly 10% here. And that's not just for the options - that's for the entire machine. You literally pay 2700$ here for an i5 iMac with 8gb of RAM and a fusion drive.
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Naturally. I think of Chinese markets and the Chinese government interchangeably.
Aren't phone like the Pocophone available for like 35% of the price of an iPhone XR? This would explain a lot.
I’m not sure if you’re understanding me. I don’t care about the P20 or any past phone. The P30 Pro was literally just released and I believe that it might have affected Apples decision to lower prices (again) in China. You seem to be saying that just because last year’s model didn’t immediately steal the market from Apple, that this year’s model, with significant advances, will have no impact on Apple’s market share. We’ll see.
Meanwhile in the UK, VAT is at an eye watering 20%.
For once I just want a government to come in and say 'hey guys, we're halving taxes on everything' instead of the usual bloated government > more services > higher taxes > lower growth > more welfare scenario that much of Europe is stuck in.
For once I just want a government to come in and say 'hey guys, we're halving taxes on everything' instead of the usual bloated government > more services > higher taxes > lower growth > more welfare scenario that much of Europe is stuck in.
Yeah, really. It’s been written about in many news outlets. Anyone betting on Apple in China are crazy.
It’s clear that you don’t care that Huawei only managed to cumulatively sell 15 million units of the p20, p20 pro, mate 20, mate 20 pro, and mate 20x in 2018.
And You think the p30 pro will sell substantially more in 2019, because of “significant advances”. Sure it will /s.
You think the launch of the p30 pro made apple drop their prices?
Ok.
Yeah that’s not going to happen. Its hilarious that your think it can.
Apple will sell more iPhone 11 units in China alone during its first week of sales than Huawei will with global lifetime sale of the p30, you can even multiply that number s by 3 or 4 still won’t make a difference.
To give you some perspective in how foolish you sound. In 2018 Huawei sold over 205 million phones. Only 15 million were over 600 dollars.
Huawei asp for 2018 was what, $125.
You have no idea what your talking about.
Yeah... me too. The headline was designed that way on purpose, I’m sure. Somebody got a good laugh as they posted that one to the site today.
Kinda like here in the U.K. They amended the VAT rate to 15% and now it stands at 20%.
With all this who-ha going on at the moment I reckon we’ll end up being conned into 25%!
It’s clear that you don’t care that Huawei only managed to cumulatively sell 15 million units of the p20, p20 pro, mate 20, mate 20 pro, and mate 20x in 2018.
And You think the p30 pro will sell substantially more in 2019, because of “significant advances”. Sure it will /s.
You think the launch of the p30 pro made apple drop their prices?
Ok.
Yeah that’s not going to happen. Its hilarious that your think it can.
Apple will sell more iPhone 11 units in China alone during its first week of sales than Huawei will with global lifetime sale of the p30, you can even multiply that number s by 3 or 4 still won’t make a difference.
To give you some perspective in how foolish you sound. In 2018 Huawei sold over 205 million phones. Only 15 million were over 600 dollars.
Huawei asp for 2018 was what, $125.
You have no idea what your talking about.
I'm glad I could amuse you. Laughter helps relieve stress and just looking over your intense posts on anything you perceive to be a criticism of Apple, you need it. You're welcome.
However, I think (and hope) Apple's too smart to be chuckling in the corner about Huawei. After all, Tim, like me, is old enough to remember how in the 70's American companies giggled about Japanese manufacturers daring to challenge good, American know how.
Tim is old enough to remember how Japanese electronics companies in the 90's were blind-side by South Korea challenging their dominance.
No, I think Tim Cook is smart enough to keep a Sauron level eye on Huawei. After all, having a high ASP means nothing if you're losing market share. And I'm pretty sure, Apple's ASP in China is not what it used to be.
That you do. Your incoherent arguments are a breath of fresh air.
Actually your wrong again on both counts.
. Thanks for the chuckle. Apples asp has increased in China over the past year. And that not only offsets its 14% decline in volume but increased value by 25% yoy. Perhaps this is to difficult for you to grasp since you keep taking about irrelevant comparisons between the automobile industry in the 70s , the consumer electronics industry of the 90’s and today’s smartphone market, so I will keep it as simple as possible
;Apple sells more premium phones in China than Huawei does, 8 times more.
Please do go on
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That you do. Your incoherent arguments are a breath of fresh air.
Actually your wrong again on both counts.. Thanks for the chuckle. Apples asp has increased in China over the past year. And that not only offsets its 14% decline in volume but increased value by 25% yoy.
Perhaps this is to difficult for you to grasp since you keep taking about irrelevant comparisons between the automobile industry in the 70s , the consumer electronics industry of the 90’s and today’s smartphone market, so I will keep it as simple as possible;
Apple sells more premium phones in China than Huawei does, 8 times more.
Please do go on
As you said, "Apples asp has increased in China over the past year."
You keep pushing the numbers and results from the fourth quarter or older. I started this conversation about a phone just being released. And since those 2018 numbers came out, has nothing happened in the last quarter that might indicate changes or trends that Apple is worried? Nothing at all like two price reductions in a single quarter? No announcements from various Chinese brands that they are specifically going to target the high-end global smart phone segment? No previously exclusive Apple partners now selling their tech to Apple rivals...like Huawei?
Oh you mean the latest published numbers? yeah why cite those.
Price reduction due to currency fluctuations?
Yeah that sounds like nonsense as well especially after both price cuts the xr,s entry price was still over $924, in fact the phone was $958 before the price cut.
Your totally correct with your inane theory that A $34 price reduction means apple is doomed in China.
oh and it’s Because Huawei la announced a product that will at best sell 3 million units globally this year. Do go on
The only reason I'm replying to you, is that you like replying with fabrications. I didn't say Apple was doomed. The worst you can read into my replies is that I think Huawei is providing them a challenge. But, in your hysterical fandom, even that seems to be too much for you. You will allow nothing to mar the image of Apple. So be it.Oh you mean the latest published numbers? yeah why cite those.
Price reduction due to currency fluctuations?
Yeah that sounds like nonsense as well especially after both price cuts the xr,s entry price was still over $924, in fact the phone was $958 before the price cut.
Your totally correct with your inane theory that A $34 price reduction means apple is doomed in China.
Do go on
Rather than continue to unfairly dominate this posting, how about we make a date? 30 April-ish? We'll meet in the posting MacRumors will make on the subject. I trust MacRumors to provide a fair assessment of the information and if Apple has turned it around, I'll be happy to admit I was wrong and you can cackle and emoji all over my post.
34 dollar price cut on a $958 xr. yeah I can’t stop laughing at your assertions.
Sure, I will be here.
Except the results your talking about are apples q3 2019, that gets released in July, you know because “Huawei is providing them a challenge”
And
Huawei won’t release their p30 numbers till the end of the year.
Should be around for both.
Don’t worry I will be laughing then too
There is immense wealth over there. You can't take even a short drive in Shanghai or Hangzhou or Shenzhen without seeing very expensive cars. Sure, there are people on scooters and even with bike carts, but the shear number of high end luxury cars is insane. Economic inequality is no doubt a problem over there. Shanghai, for example, is massive (and I mean, massive) and a "cheap," small apartment anywhere will run you at the minimum $2 million... U.S. dollars, not RMB.
I'm terrible at taking pictures, meaning I literally travel the world and take zero pictures, but I snapped this one because my wife asked me about the OP tower. Everyone seems to think it's really tall. it's not... Anyway... That I believe is a Maybach in the lower right corner -- easily $100,000 or more and they pay insane taxes on cars and to own one. You see a lot of them over there.
Average doesn't mean anything when you have the population numbers they have. China is a very large market and it sure has enough room for luxury or premium brands like Apple.
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China's actual economy is the problem. Mainland Chinese love to flaunt wealth and the more something costs, the more desirable it is. Thus I don't buy the "Huawei is cheaper" theory. There is simply less actual wealth going around to flaunt. That means fewer people buying upgrades to discretionary devices like the newest phones.
You can't be serious! Samsung is #1 worldwide in mobile sales, #2 is Xiaomi, and 3rd is Apple.
Samsung can't die when they're supplying the whole smartphone market with screens and parts. They don't rely on the sale of their flagship phones to get by. Do some research!