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Apple Lowers Prices on PowerBooks...12" and 15"
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Well compared to a month ago the price in Australia has dropped.
$900 from the 12'' and $1200 from the 867 15''
But also $700 from the 17''??. These changes may have happened earlier this month as I am comparing to the 28/4/2003 pricelist but the rrp on the towers is still identical to a month ago so it is not likely to be as a result of exchange rate changes.
As for 970 pb it seems unlikely to be here before or at the same time as 970 tower. Mind you I am hoping for a small rev at least, as I am currently in the market and just waiting for the 15'' al book and a 1.2mhz rev would be nice.
$900 from the 12'' and $1200 from the 867 15''
But also $700 from the 17''??. These changes may have happened earlier this month as I am comparing to the 28/4/2003 pricelist but the rrp on the towers is still identical to a month ago so it is not likely to be as a result of exchange rate changes.
As for 970 pb it seems unlikely to be here before or at the same time as 970 tower. Mind you I am hoping for a small rev at least, as I am currently in the market and just waiting for the 15'' al book and a 1.2mhz rev would be nice.
WOW 
apple has lowered the price of the 17'' PB in germany by some 500 E...
That s so great. in fact the full equiped 17 costs now as much as the full equiped 15 before ... so cool
the 15 has gone down for 600E and the 12 inch for 500 as well.
thanks apple for balancing the prices. thx so much from me
Dudes i m happy. that means i can get an Pod 30 gig for free
apple has lowered the price of the 17'' PB in germany by some 500 E...
That s so great. in fact the full equiped 17 costs now as much as the full equiped 15 before ... so cool
the 15 has gone down for 600E and the 12 inch for 500 as well.
thanks apple for balancing the prices. thx so much from me
Dudes i m happy. that means i can get an Pod 30 gig for free
The aussie prices only change when the US prices change, or when there is a new product.
In other words the towers will remain the same until they are updated then the price will change with the exchange rate taken into account.
I have been monitoring aussie prices for a year now, and everytime apple updates/upgrades etc, thats when our prices adjust. With our dollar soaring up the charts, this has helped with the massive drop in the 15" powerbook price.
If you notice now, the apple aussie prices are around double, or just under double the U.S. prices, which is great compared to a year a go. Towers and the like willl drop when new models are released.
Just think around a year a go or so in Aust, you would have bought a 12" ibook for what you are now paying for a 15" powerbook, thats how dramatic our prices have come down. Our exchange rate has a lot to do with the price drops, and if it keeps going up, everytime there is a new product announced our prices will then adjust accordingly, and chances are they will drop, even if the US prices remain the same, or even go up.
In other words the towers will remain the same until they are updated then the price will change with the exchange rate taken into account.
I have been monitoring aussie prices for a year now, and everytime apple updates/upgrades etc, thats when our prices adjust. With our dollar soaring up the charts, this has helped with the massive drop in the 15" powerbook price.
If you notice now, the apple aussie prices are around double, or just under double the U.S. prices, which is great compared to a year a go. Towers and the like willl drop when new models are released.
Just think around a year a go or so in Aust, you would have bought a 12" ibook for what you are now paying for a 15" powerbook, thats how dramatic our prices have come down. Our exchange rate has a lot to do with the price drops, and if it keeps going up, everytime there is a new product announced our prices will then adjust accordingly, and chances are they will drop, even if the US prices remain the same, or even go up.
I don't know what the freak'n deal is, a new P4 processor comes out, there is already a motherboard developed for it and you can buy it immediately... the 970s are done... and they're still not in Macs... and people wonder why Macs lag behind Wintels...
UK
The prices have been lowered on the UK Education Apple Store now.
This is great - roll on 12" Rev2. Hopefully with FW800.
The prices have been lowered on the UK Education Apple Store now.
This is great - roll on 12" Rev2. Hopefully with FW800.
Re: Re: pb970
I have done a price comparison of Apple hardware for some countries in another thread https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=370350#post370350
I have done a price comparison of Apple hardware for some countries in another thread https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=370350#post370350
why to do that?
the pb 12 is a wonderful machine. it is not a matter being top of the line all the time. the pb 12 should be able to do all your work in the next lets say 2 - 3 years. I don t see why to change it against a 15'..
Prices
Just a thought, but are these discounts (temporary) or are they considered to be 'prices'.
All i mean by this is that normally updates to products come in at around the same price as the previous models. So if these prices are set, surely the anticipated replacements would have to fit in the same price band.
Just a thought, but are these discounts (temporary) or are they considered to be 'prices'.
All i mean by this is that normally updates to products come in at around the same price as the previous models. So if these prices are set, surely the anticipated replacements would have to fit in the same price band.
Re: Prices
i think they are quite definitive. if it would be a temp reduction, they would post that somewhere, and announce it bigger , so that more people are using the occaision, during the time the lower price exists.
Sit this one out then!
Surely then it makes sense to wait until the new models are released? Makes no sense to buy a model at this price when it seems that the prices have only been lowered to make way for new models for the same money!
If any of that makes sense!
Having said that, before i discoverd this site, i would probably snap up an offer like this without batting an eyelid! Now i know better!
Surely then it makes sense to wait until the new models are released? Makes no sense to buy a model at this price when it seems that the prices have only been lowered to make way for new models for the same money!
If any of that makes sense!
Having said that, before i discoverd this site, i would probably snap up an offer like this without batting an eyelid! Now i know better!
Re: Sit this one out then!
Its funny... when it was first rumored that 970s would start out in the PowerBooks folks scoffed, but its certainly looking that way now.
The more interesting question now is whether they'll announced the PowerMac at the same time or if that will lag a little.
I've gotta think that would be beating any recent MacWorld for sheer scale of product announcements... not that I'm complainining
I think it is precisely because they don't want people to wait that they have introduced these reductions in a fairly low key way...
Its funny... when it was first rumored that 970s would start out in the PowerBooks folks scoffed, but its certainly looking that way now.
The more interesting question now is whether they'll announced the PowerMac at the same time or if that will lag a little.
I've gotta think that would be beating any recent MacWorld for sheer scale of product announcements... not that I'm complainining
Aussie Prices
Check out what actually happened down here:
Bear in mind now that the Aussie dollar has been buying around US$0.6500 for the past few weeks and this is the best local rate that we get from Apple Australia.
It seems to me that if you take the US List price, convert at the current rate and mark up 20% then that is quite close to our local Apple price list.
20%!
Check out what actually happened down here:
Code:
Model Price effective change
iBooks
12" 800MHz CD-ROM AU$1849 US$0.5403 -7.5%
12" 900MHz Combo AU$2399 US$0.5415 -7.7%
14" 900MHz Combo AU$2795 US$0.5363 -6.8%
14" 900MHz Ultimate AU$3295 US$0.5396 -7.2%
Powerbooks
Al 12" 867MHz Combo AU$3099 US$0.5160 -22.4%
Al 12" 867MHz Super AU$3499 US$0.5141 -20.9%
Ti 15" 867MHz Combo AU$3799 US$0.5262 -23.9%
Ti 15" 1GHz Super AU$4899 US$0.5305 -18.3%
Al 17" 1GHz Ultimate AU$6299 US$0.5237 -10%Bear in mind now that the Aussie dollar has been buying around US$0.6500 for the past few weeks and this is the best local rate that we get from Apple Australia.
It seems to me that if you take the US List price, convert at the current rate and mark up 20% then that is quite close to our local Apple price list.
20%!
WANT REFUND
With the prices of the powerbooks coming down, so did the iBooks. I jut purchased mine 4 weeks ago. I was wondering if I can expect some kind of refund cause the price went down in less then 30 days. If i knew that the prices were going to come down, I would have waited, as the 1000 gap between the ibook and powerbook didn't justify for me to go with the powerbook, but now, I would definately go for it!!
With the prices of the powerbooks coming down, so did the iBooks. I jut purchased mine 4 weeks ago. I was wondering if I can expect some kind of refund cause the price went down in less then 30 days. If i knew that the prices were going to come down, I would have waited, as the 1000 gap between the ibook and powerbook didn't justify for me to go with the powerbook, but now, I would definately go for it!!
Re: WANT REFUND
I feel for you. I was pretty pissed when Apple knocked $1200 off the PowerMac dual 1.2 I'd bought just last November, and released a new faster, better PowerMac with Bluetooth
Pricing and old models
There is some justification and history to reducing the price of old models before coming out with new ones...the Mac Plus kept going down as the SE took over its spot, though the two co-existed. More recently, there have been price cuts to herald new machines. The IIvx was a badly handled one that stung a lot of people - it was over $3,000 one day, then under $2,000 the next...it went from being a really expensive machine to a budget machine in short order.
They really should lower the price of the current desktops in steps before coming out with replacements.
Which reminds me, wouldn't they EOL the towers if the 970 was due in only three weeks? Or at least cut the prices on them? Makes ya think the 970 will show up at the absolute top end, so they'll just bump the others down a peg.
There is some justification and history to reducing the price of old models before coming out with new ones...the Mac Plus kept going down as the SE took over its spot, though the two co-existed. More recently, there have been price cuts to herald new machines. The IIvx was a badly handled one that stung a lot of people - it was over $3,000 one day, then under $2,000 the next...it went from being a really expensive machine to a budget machine in short order.
They really should lower the price of the current desktops in steps before coming out with replacements.
Which reminds me, wouldn't they EOL the towers if the 970 was due in only three weeks? Or at least cut the prices on them? Makes ya think the 970 will show up at the absolute top end, so they'll just bump the others down a peg.
FYI, you got those quotes transposed. How annoying
My point with the 533Mhz is to hightlight it because the average Joe is simply not aware of it.
Are you going to dispute that it is the default setting?
Personally, I appreciate clock-cycling technologies to extend battery life.
But what I don't appreciate is when all of these various tricks and games are used when making the battery's baseline performance claim: I consider that to be bordering on CONSUMER FRAUD.
Yes, I know that "everyone" does it. But that still doesn't make it right (ethics). As far as I'm concerned, a claim of a "4 hour" battery is predicated at the laptop running at full numbercrunching performance, unless you're going to be fully upfront and sell it as a 866/533MHz PC.
A PC card slot is useful for installing a "Common Access Card" reader in a laptop, to support secure & encrypted email in MS-Outlook and similar systems.
For desktop systems, the standard CAC reader is COM1 or USB based, and is a "dongle" like device. The one I have installed is made by SCM Systems (scmmicro.com). Apple doesn't offer the hardware on their website, but they do offer the driver software, although it is very well hidden on their website (Store/Gov/Fed/Special Products). Its $49.95 and it is Apple Part# M9107LL/A.
-hh
battery life is listed as "up to x hours" and NOT "x hours."
it's an industry practice. get over it. it's the same deal when you get a 10 GB iPod, you get less than 10 GB of storage because there are two different conventions for memory capacity.
UltiMAC: Listen to what you are saying:
"I am sore I paid the full price for a brand new product..."
You always pay the full price for a brand new product. If it was discounted from the getgo, that's the first full price. There's no past prices to compare to, so whatever the first price is attached to the product is the "full" price.
Comet: If you got your iBook from Apple, they only price match for 10 days. There'll always be someone who's just a day or two out of the price matching window...
One month for a computer is a pretty long time. If a computer is considered "useful" for 3 years and a car, 6 years, would you consider a two months old car with 2,000+ miles on it "just" bought to the point you'd expect a matching discount? Just a thought... I know how you feel, but I don't think much can be done...
it's an industry practice. get over it. it's the same deal when you get a 10 GB iPod, you get less than 10 GB of storage because there are two different conventions for memory capacity.
UltiMAC: Listen to what you are saying:
"I am sore I paid the full price for a brand new product..."
You always pay the full price for a brand new product. If it was discounted from the getgo, that's the first full price. There's no past prices to compare to, so whatever the first price is attached to the product is the "full" price.
Comet: If you got your iBook from Apple, they only price match for 10 days. There'll always be someone who's just a day or two out of the price matching window...
One month for a computer is a pretty long time. If a computer is considered "useful" for 3 years and a car, 6 years, would you consider a two months old car with 2,000+ miles on it "just" bought to the point you'd expect a matching discount? Just a thought... I know how you feel, but I don't think much can be done...
From what I've seen, Apple has only adjusted local pricing downwards upon either a reduction in US pricing, or a new product launch. Even when they adjusted when the 900 iBooks were released here in Canada, they only bounced those down in price and left everything else in the store alone.
Which is a bit annoying...