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Apple Loyalty
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Apple is not loyal to me, so why would I be loyal to a multi-billion dollar corporation?
Rather, if apple has a product that fits a need, then I'll consider them, if not I'll buy from another company.
Rather, if apple has a product that fits a need, then I'll consider them, if not I'll buy from another company.
I'm #1. Well, I'm a 1. I don't owe Apple a thing.
If they won't make machines I want to buy (a mid-range minitower in the $2-3K range), I ain't buying. I have zero interest in the iPhone (lack of dual SIM), iPad, Mac Mini (under powered), iMac (hate AIO machines), or any smart watches (it's mechanical or nothing). I can't afford the Mac Pro.
Don't care much for laptop (bad, bad ergonomics).
Right now, Apple has nothing of interest to me. I owe them nothing, Jon Snow.
If they won't make machines I want to buy (a mid-range minitower in the $2-3K range), I ain't buying. I have zero interest in the iPhone (lack of dual SIM), iPad, Mac Mini (under powered), iMac (hate AIO machines), or any smart watches (it's mechanical or nothing). I can't afford the Mac Pro.
Don't care much for laptop (bad, bad ergonomics).Right now, Apple has nothing of interest to me. I owe them nothing, Jon Snow.
Probably a five. I owe them nothing but they generally make better quality products and that has a positive impression with me for future purchases.
If a product they release is hot garbage then I’ll avoid it. Like I did with the 15” MacBook Pros.
If a product they release is hot garbage then I’ll avoid it. Like I did with the 15” MacBook Pros.
Edit: Upon further reflection and to be honest with myself, probably a 7. I avoid hot garbage but love the ecosystem. New releases are super exciting as opposed to many other companies, and I agree with their ideology of vertically optimizing all software and hardware to work efficiently and cleanly*.
* Lately that hasn’t been the case. :-(
* Lately that hasn’t been the case. :-(
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Probably a 7, have many Mac products and a user since '95. Really enjoyed Apple when they were the underdog but now not so much. Typically I don't buy the latest Apple products but usually pick the last gen products to save a little money but still get great build quality. My last purchase in August was a new 2017 MacBook Air. My last desktop was a late 2018 Mini but I also recently purchased a HP workstation to get the latest bang for a great price.
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The only things that I've bought for myself from Apple were recordable DVD discs back in the early days when Apple blank discs were the cheapest on the market.
The only things that I've bought for myself from Apple were recordable DVD discs back in the early days when Apple blank discs were the cheapest on the market.
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Apple can go screw themselves for how they adversely affected the first two years of my college education by selling a logic board failure prone MBP to me in mid 2007. I have no loyalty towards corporations and such.
I'm with @maflynn on this: I'm not loyal to Apple. At this point in time, they make products that I prefer over other alternatives. That could easily change in the future. For me, it's about how well a product suits my needs and how I perceive its value. If they want my loyalty, it'll cost them!
Not sure how to define loyalty in this scenario, but I have been using Apple hardware since 1982, starting with the venerable Apple IIe, then the IIgs, and switched to Macs in 1996. Early on, I used some Apple software, like Appleworks and ClarisWorks. But most of my software is third party. In fact, except for the Mac OS, Disk Utility, and iTunes, all my other software is third party.
So, if loyalty is defined in terms of hardware, I guess I am a 10. But in terms of software, I am a 1.
So, if loyalty is defined in terms of hardware, I guess I am a 10. But in terms of software, I am a 1.
They’re loyal to my privacy, so currently a 10. Their products also make it incredibly easy to maintain them for my family and also make it easy for my family to use and enjoy their computers. They may make odd and sometimes stupid choices with their products, but they are consistent. Their health initiative with their Apple Watch and the integration of the health app with every other app I use makes tracking my health incredibly simple. Their products also all work together wonderfully. Hopefully they stay on track with the way things are going.
Probably a 3. It's not loyalty but rather being captive from their "eco-system". Apple to this day still makes some of the best software and cross-platform OS's, and they don't exactly make it easy on you if you wanna go back to other OS's. I love the convenience of transferring my files between my iPad and MacBook Pro, and the ease of use of all the Apple devices.
So far I don't see any reason to go back to Windows/Android/Google OS. However as a rational agent, if I find out that Apple is screwing me over, or if a better cross-platform eco-system emerges, I won't hesitate to drop them.
So far I don't see any reason to go back to Windows/Android/Google OS. However as a rational agent, if I find out that Apple is screwing me over, or if a better cross-platform eco-system emerges, I won't hesitate to drop them.
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Apple users are referred to as iZombies by the American surveillance apparatus, my dude..
I’ve gotten into legal trouble before in which my text messages were subpoenaed, and they weren’t able to get access to my end to end encrypted iMessages, only my SMS texts. So I have firsthand experience with Apple’s privacy policies “my dude”. If you want to believe your own make believe Illuminati world in which Apple are liars out to get us all, that’s on you. And if you haven’t been noticing Apple’s constant battles with the FBI and refusing to make backdoors into their phones, you’re just being purposely obtuse. Tim Cook said privacy is a human right, and so far he has held up to that belief from my personal experience.
Apple is right now (probably) the only major company out there who handles privacy in a way I appreciate. However I wouldn't go all the way to believe they do this just out of good will and because it's the right thing to do. They simply have been the first to realize that "privacy sells" and now they use it to earn our money. I don't mind at all, but I think it's important to be aware of that fact.
8. I don't do Apple Watches and I'm not a huge Beats fan, but the rest of Apple's products are strong enough to keep me coming back.
Yes, there's some nostalgia and intangible reasons to be on Apple, but that's just the whole experience for me.
Yes, there's some nostalgia and intangible reasons to be on Apple, but that's just the whole experience for me.
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I like my Android better but it won't connect to my car. I've also got an Apple watch, so using an iPhone makes sense. My husband has an iPhone, so iMessage is used frequently. That's about it.
I like my Android better but it won't connect to my car. I've also got an Apple watch, so using an iPhone makes sense. My husband has an iPhone, so iMessage is used frequently. That's about it.
Brand loyalty ceased to be a thing once everything got sold over to cheap Chinese manufacturing.
Remember the motto of Zenith? "The Quality goes in before the Name Goes On?" Once Funai got hold of 'em they ended up dumpster fodder.
Same goes for the iconic and once-reliable brands such as Westinghouse, Magnavox and RCA. Today even Apple isn't what it used to be. Won't be too long before we might see Goldstar or Symphonic making parts.
A Magnavox TouchTune Color TV from 1978 will still be working today. A Console stereo from Zenith with vacuum tubes will still work today. A Microwave from the '70s is still working. Meanwhile any tech from 2000+ is in the landfill. I find that sad.
That being said, the edge of Apple is still there. They are solid, and the UI is so much smoother than anything Android has even today. Android keeps changing too much for me, while Apple has more or less kept the same UI (and has been slowly removing the Ive-disease that started in iOS 7) since 2007.
I'm not very fond of modern Android, but I still got tons of classic Galaxy devices and things running Android 2.2/2.3 which was to me better than anything after it--It was their own way to cater to geeks vs. the stupid as everyone seems to be doing today.
Remember the motto of Zenith? "The Quality goes in before the Name Goes On?" Once Funai got hold of 'em they ended up dumpster fodder.
Same goes for the iconic and once-reliable brands such as Westinghouse, Magnavox and RCA. Today even Apple isn't what it used to be. Won't be too long before we might see Goldstar or Symphonic making parts.
A Magnavox TouchTune Color TV from 1978 will still be working today. A Console stereo from Zenith with vacuum tubes will still work today. A Microwave from the '70s is still working. Meanwhile any tech from 2000+ is in the landfill. I find that sad.
That being said, the edge of Apple is still there. They are solid, and the UI is so much smoother than anything Android has even today. Android keeps changing too much for me, while Apple has more or less kept the same UI (and has been slowly removing the Ive-disease that started in iOS 7) since 2007.
I'm not very fond of modern Android, but I still got tons of classic Galaxy devices and things running Android 2.2/2.3 which was to me better than anything after it--It was their own way to cater to geeks vs. the stupid as everyone seems to be doing today.
I will say it's not so much that I am loyal to Apple, but that I am so entrenched in the Apple ecosystem that it would take a lot to get me to switch. Not to mention that I am a pretty happy Apple user myself, and the competition simply lacks the integrated platform that got me hooked in the first place.
So Apple would have to screw big big time, and the competition has to really leapfrog Apple in a way that really matters for me to even consider switching.
But if I had to give a number, probably 9-10 as well.