Apple Loyalty

Solomani

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Sep 25, 2012
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I'm #1. Well, I'm a 1. I don't owe Apple a thing.
If they won't make machines I want to buy (a mid-range minitower in the $2-3K range), I ain't buying. I have zero interest in the iPhone (lack of dual SIM), iPad, Mac Mini (under powered), iMac (hate AIO machines), or any smart watches (it's mechanical or nothing). I can't afford the Mac Pro.:( Don't care much for laptop (bad, bad ergonomics).
Right now, Apple has nothing of interest to me. I owe them nothing, Jon Snow.
I know, right? Winter is emojis are coming.
 

nickdalzell1

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Dec 8, 2019
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I don't have to worry about being stuck in any ecosystem luckily. I am pretty much tied on every platform be it Amazon, Google, Apple. There's really nothing that I got in Apple that I don't have also in those other two.
 

nickdalzell1

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Dec 8, 2019
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Let me just say this. I'm loyal to any company who makes great products designed to last a long time. One which encourages reuse and recycle over "buy our shiny new thing because it's shiny and toss your previous perfectly working device from last year into the garbage"

Since that kind of company hasn't existed since 1987, let's just say what I have now is it. Regardless of the logo attached to it.
 
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Tech198

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Mar 21, 2011
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Let me just say this. I'm loyal to any company who makes great products designed to last a long time. One which encourages reuse and recycle over "buy our shiny new thing because it's shiny and toss your previous perfectly working device from last year into the garbage"

Since that kind of company hasn't existed since 1987, let's just say what I have now is it. Regardless of the logo attached to it.
I think recycling is a bit different from "repair-ability" Very different...

To the point, one could overtake the other and make it moot. Not saying others don't recycle too, but i define the definition, where the ones who actually responsible. Unless bought to Apple directly.... where it it actually go for recycing? Who really knows anyway, when the planet it dealng with unskilled professionals who choose to be sloppy.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
I'm not loyal to Apple. I like their products, the design of their products, the way they function cohesively and interact with one another. I do have my favorite consumer electronic devices. Printers: HP, TVs: Samsung, etc.

So Apple would have to screw big big time, and the competition has to really leapfrog Apple in a way that really matters for me to even consider switching.

But if I had to give a number, probably 9-10 as well.
This exactly.
 
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turbineseaplane

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Mar 19, 2008
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I’m a 5, which I categorize as mostly “indifferent” at this point.

If I weren‘t so preferential to macOS vs Windows, I’d be gone already I think.

I’m just tired of fighting the hardware crap with them. I really wish they’d find a way to license macOS that would work for them so that we could officially and in a sanctioned manner enjoy the wide wide world of hardware out there, particularly on laptop devices.
 

MattG

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May 27, 2003
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I will say it's not so much that I am loyal to Apple, but that I am so entrenched in the Apple ecosystem that it would take a lot to get me to switch. Not to mention that I am a pretty happy Apple user myself, and the competition simply lacks the integrated platform that got me hooked in the first place.

So Apple would have to screw big big time, and the competition has to really leapfrog Apple in a way that really matters for me to even consider switching.

But if I had to give a number, probably 9-10 as well.
I would have to say this about sums it up for me as well, though admittedly I have strayed a bit in the past few years. I really do love their ecosystem; their walled-garden approach that non-Apple users seem to criticize a lot is exactly what I like about their ecosystem. I can't see myself ever straying away from the iPhone, plus I have money vested in iTunes Store music, movies and shows. However, I really still think some of their other product lineups need work.

1. It really chaps my ass that in order to get a laptop with bigger than a 13" screen, my only option is to pay upwards of $2,399 for an MBP. The only other option is paying too much money for an already under-spec'd 13" laptop, which I won't be happy with. A while ago I bought a Huawei MateBook Pro X to use for a while, which I really liked, and eventually sold after I switched jobs and was provided a laptop. Now I just decided not to have a personal laptop at all, and only use the iMac that's already at home for Mac purposes.

2. I feel like Apple TV is still a "hobby" in Apple's universe, and after some frustration dealing with that part of their ecosystem, switched to Amazon Fire Sticks instead. Maybe it'll get the attention it deserves with the advent of Apple TV+ but after owning several iterations of the Apple TV hardware over several years and waiting...waiting...waiting...waiting for it to get better, I'm not in a hurry to switch back to it.

At the moment I'm partial-Apple and partial-other-vendors and for my needs, it's all working quite well together.
 
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jeyf

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Jan 20, 2009
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I got caught up in the MBP butterfly keyboard issue.
even before that there were quality / pricing issues.
so
I am VERY careful to buy Apple these days

-plan to buy lightly used apple hardware that has known defects
-dont know what to do about macOS and IOS software bug issues
-the local shopping mall now charges for parking so nix that apple store. I went online to buy an iPhone adapter cable and the experience was odd and the cable was expen$ive too. Shopping is faster better to buy the same item on ebay slightly used.

just an observation:
you see boomer grand parents waiting in line to buying apple products for their gangster mutated 2nd generation demon spawn. its a >65y crowd.

apple ecosystem
seems to be going in a direction i am NOT. I now now i made a bad choice and need to loose this alcoholic dependancy.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors demi-goddess
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
I got caught up in the MBP butterfly keyboard issue.
even before that there were quality / pricing issues.
so
I am VERY careful to buy Apple these days

-plan to buy lightly used apple hardware that has known defects
-dont know what to do about macOS and IOS software bug issues
-the local shopping mall now charges for parking so nix that apple store. I went online to buy an iPhone adapter cable and the experience was odd and the cable was expen$ive too. Shopping is faster better to buy the same item on ebay slightly used.

just an observation:
you see boomer grand parents waiting in line to buying apple products for their gangster mutated 2nd generation demon spawn. its a >65y crowd.

apple ecosystem
seems to be going in a direction i am NOT. I now now i made a bad choice and need to loose this alcoholic dependancy.
Unfortunately, no PC companies do as good of a job of supporting their products. Microsoft does, but they don't offer a mobile operating system and their desktop operating system is rotten from the core.

Android is a better OS than Windows, but neither Samsung nor Google provide anything close to Apple support.

Apple has definitely made some serious missteps. There is no doubting that. However, you go to a PC manufacturer or an Android phone vendor and the shortcomings are staggering.

I don't care much for the demon spawn or the alcoholic comment; if anything, it kind of devalues your whole argument.

As far as ecosystem goes, Apple offers the most complete ecosystem:
  • Solid computers (new keyboards on the way)
  • The top rated tablet (really cornered the market)
  • The top rated smartwatch (not my thing, I wear a traditional watch)
  • one of the best phones on the market
  • An emphasis on privacy for the data on the device (admittedly, this has its limits but it's far above Google and Microsoft at this point)
At this point, I don't think you can argue the Apple ecosystem is going in any direction; it has simply cornered most markets. For example -
* The best Google tablet right now is an iPad
* The best Microsoft phone right now (obviously other than the one they're releasing at the end of this year) is iPhone.

I guess what I am trying to say is that most of your concerns are valid, however those concerns are far more prevalent in other ecosystems.
 

AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
18,502
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The Peninsula
Unfortunately, no PC companies do as good of a job of supporting their products. Microsoft does, but they don't offer a mobile operating system and their desktop operating system is rotten from the core.

Android is a better OS than Windows, but neither Samsung nor Google provide anything close to Apple support.

Apple has definitely made some serious missteps. There is no doubting that. However, you go to a PC manufacturer or an Android phone vendor and the shortcomings are staggering.

I don't care much for the demon spawn or the alcoholic comment; if anything, it kind of devalues your whole argument.

As far as ecosystem goes, Apple offers the most complete ecosystem:
  • Solid computers (new keyboards on the way)
  • The top rated tablet (really cornered the market)
  • The top rated smartwatch (not my thing, I wear a traditional watch)
  • one of the best phones on the market
  • An emphasis on privacy for the data on the device (admittedly, this has its limits but it's far above Google and Microsoft at this point)
At this point, I don't think you can argue the Apple ecosystem is going in any direction; it has simply cornered most markets. For example -
* The best Google tablet right now is an iPad
* The best Microsoft phone right now (obviously other than the one they're releasing at the end of this year) is iPhone.

I guess what I am trying to say is that most of your concerns are valid, however those concerns are far more prevalent in other ecosystems.
So, you're a 10 ? ;)
 

AustinIllini

macrumors demi-goddess
Oct 20, 2011
11,655
8,506
Austin, TX
So, you're a 10 ? ;)
Nope. If Google or Microsoft were to do something better, I would switch.

I believe Google could but they're pretty far behind on tablets and still pretty far behind on their own proprietary hardware (pixel line).

Ultimately, I look at other products at times, but I have yet to find a solution better than the current Apple ecosystem.
 

mmomega

macrumors 68040
Dec 30, 2009
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Across all brands from toilet paper to vehicles.
I make a purchase choice based on my personal needs at that moment, when it comes to buying something again, if I had a good experience, and their current product still fits my needs then I buy again.
If something else fills the needs better, I get that.

I'm only as loyal to a particular brand if they continue to meet the need. I don't have much of an issue buying several different brands.

At work I do buy more of one particular brand than I do at home.

Personal experience over the years, try to remove as much emotion as possible from a purchase and you will generally be more happy with it. And then, don't buy things because someone else told you to.
Probably my 2 most given pieces of advice when someone asks.