Even if this ends up costing more then Internet + TV from Comcast, I will gladly give my money to Apple just to stick to it Comcast. The report that Comcast was just stringing them along instead of working with them really pisses me off. I had the X1 system from Comcast and it is complete garbage. The UI/Experience is terrible. Their betting the farm on it being the next apple TV where you purchase movies and tv shows from it. Its a POS. I have an apple TV and love it. This service can't come fast enough. One point I want to make is that the real selling point for this will be about the experience. The ability of having one box that does it all.
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Apple Luring TV Content Partners With Promises of Data Sharing
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The question was never raised whether selling ads is Apple's business model. No one made that claim. Not sure why you brought that into the topic. We're discussing how each company handles ads and advertising, not how they make the majority of their money.
You're wrong about cookies. From Apple's privacy policy: Apple and its partners use cookies and other technologies in mobile advertising services to control the number of times you see a given ad, deliver ads that relate to your interests, and measure the effectiveness of ad campaigns.
Google also let's you opt out of targeted ads just like Apple. If you do, the same thing happens with both companies. Apple: Alternatively, if you are using iOS 6 or above operating system on your mobile device or iTunes Radio on your computer, you may opt-out by electing Limit Ad Tracking. If you opt out, you will continue to receive the same number of mobile ads, but they may be less relevant because they will not be based on your interests.
Both have targeted data and both allow customers a way to avoid it.
If the data is anonymized and aggregated, this is fine.
E.g. if Apple shared ratings and the number of people in a general profile by zip code. (And allowed ads to be served based on this.)
But if they hand over my identity, much less connected it with anything, then that would be terrible.
E.g. if Apple shared ratings and the number of people in a general profile by zip code. (And allowed ads to be served based on this.)
But if they hand over my identity, much less connected it with anything, then that would be terrible.
The key is that data they collect needs to be anonymized. We have data collected on us all day long. The key is whether my habits will be traced back.
Case in point, I was dumb and looked up a car dealer for an oil change on google maps. When I got home, my in-browser ads were LOADED with other dealers' ads. That creeped me out.
Apple has never tracked me with ads based on my map usage. I'll take an inferior map that doesn't judge me (not that it's inferior anymore). I'm trying to ween away from free stuff because it doesn't take much to be invaded. I think if Apple chooses to sell specific information, they risk MUCH MORE than just losing tv customers. Part of my belief about Apple products is that I won't be betrayed like Google did. Undoing all of that will take a while, but in the end, there's a lesson.
DON'T TAKE CANDY FROM STRANGERS.
I'm still trying to grasp how someone os betrayed by a company
And trying to grasp what the heck is the difference between sharing anonymised data and sharing anonymised data
And trying to grasp what the heck has to do not sharing your data with sharing your data
Do you really know how companies work and what Apple tracks, what Google tracks and what share both of them? Because it is really clear that you don't have that very clear
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And also Google doesn't share targeted data
Apple Wants Crazy Bank
This whole thing is a mess. I will refrain myself.
Not interested in having my data used as a pawn in a high stakes game of greed.
Basically it seems like at this point Apple wants to run the cable companies "mafia style" and make crazy bank. Seems like Apple wants all the financial rewards associated with content production with unrealistically low risk. Just slap on a jazzy interface and ride that pony to the bank.
As always my opinions are open and subject to change but "that's the way I sees it tonight"
This whole thing is a mess. I will refrain myself.
Not interested in having my data used as a pawn in a high stakes game of greed.
Basically it seems like at this point Apple wants to run the cable companies "mafia style" and make crazy bank. Seems like Apple wants all the financial rewards associated with content production with unrealistically low risk. Just slap on a jazzy interface and ride that pony to the bank.
As always my opinions are open and subject to change but "that's the way I sees it tonight"
I have a microwave. That's exactly where my AppleTV will go if they start playing ads on content.
Though they may trade it in the future
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I prefer blenders. You can make a video and put it on YouTube . Will a appleTV blend ????
: You are not our product. You are our private property. And we call it "iPrivacy".
I have to ask... how is what Apple doing "mafia style"?
First, we really don't know what they are doing... this is a rumor, and an early rumor at that. But as long as the "user" is protected and not shared, what do you care if the "viewing habits" are shared? They (the TV networks) have been doing that already with cable and satellite companies. So it's no different.
So anyway... what's mafia about what the rumors are saying??? If anything, it's the entertainment networks that holding the Content hostage for viewing data or they won't play with Apple.
No advantage over cable services
If this turns our to be true , I totally agree with the fact that is actually cheaper to have a bundle cable and Internet service , no advantage , no ground breaking service . Also I was wondering , in the HBO Go service coming in Aprll , for $15.00 , are you getting all the HD HBO channels ? or just one HBO , alone, cable for example , for$10.00 ,gives you a variety of options to watch when it comes to premium channels ... hmmmm:roll eyes:
If this turns our to be true , I totally agree with the fact that is actually cheaper to have a bundle cable and Internet service , no advantage , no ground breaking service . Also I was wondering , in the HBO Go service coming in Aprll , for $15.00 , are you getting all the HD HBO channels ? or just one HBO , alone, cable for example , for$10.00 ,gives you a variety of options to watch when it comes to premium channels ... hmmmm:roll eyes:
The simple answer is... just about everybody. Your personal information is sold and traded all the time between companies. How do you think the junk mail people find you?
it's not a question of meta-data, since we know this already.. not personal info.
It's a question of Apple giving your name to these companies.....
I do not want my name or address associated with anything unless I give permission directly, but not when using a service i have no control over, other than not use it.
It's a question of Apple giving your name to these companies.....
I do not want my name or address associated with anything unless I give permission directly, but not when using a service i have no control over, other than not use it.
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if you watch citizen four documentary you will see all these little data pieces make up a big picture on everyone. its all linked.
so you don't mind governments and corporations knowing when you are in watching tv and what you are watching, but that data puts you in a certain place at a certain time adding to tracking of you.
please wake up to what is going on. people say if you've done nothing wrong what have you got to hide ?
UK mp last week said he wants to put CCTV cameras in every home to protect us ... you don't mind a camera in your bedroom and toilet ?
once its there we all know what you been doing hahahah
Im guessing the advantage is that you can watch your channels anywhere and with any apple device you have connected to internet. Ofcourse, a lot of TV-distributors already offers this, but Im guessing not all do.
If Apple think I will pay a subscription and still be force fed ads, they can think again. I only subscribe to pay channels where I can record what I want and skip commercials on playback, or ad-free services like Netflix. I don't mind paying a larger subscription, but I certainly won't watch crappy commercials anymore.
People buy newspapers & magazines because they want original and interesting contents, not the ads.
Well.... I'm going good with heaps of backlog documentaries with Netflix so i'm good with "it" and iTunes.
That's all i ever need.... unless of course Apple's steaming service is under $10 then i may think about it. Some, i doubt that will ever happen
so i'm good with "it" and iTunes.That's all i ever need.... unless of course Apple's steaming service is under $10 then i may think about it. Some, i doubt that will ever happen
I appreciate Apple and HBO's efforts to divorce us from the Cable companies.
Unfortunately FIOS and COMCAST are on to the cable cutters though and make it undesirable to opt out of their bundle options. For instance with my FIOS Triple Play package, if I drop down to Internet only, I end up saving something like $20, so what’s the point? I have no other options for ISPs in my area so I’m stuck.
If Apple really want to get people using their system, they should consider becoming an ISP themselves, then I can cut the cord with Verizon and save some money.
Unfortunately FIOS and COMCAST are on to the cable cutters though and make it undesirable to opt out of their bundle options. For instance with my FIOS Triple Play package, if I drop down to Internet only, I end up saving something like $20, so what’s the point? I have no other options for ISPs in my area so I’m stuck.
If Apple really want to get people using their system, they should consider becoming an ISP themselves, then I can cut the cord with Verizon and save some money.
If you think Apple won't, or hasn't done this, you're mistaken. They are going to what they gotta do to get this service launched.
Please don't propagate this incorrect belief. People buy magazines and newspapers because of ads and coupons.
That's why fashion magazines market themselves as having 900 pages, with 850 pages in ads.
They see it as a catalogue worth paying money for. The advertising itself is the content.