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KindredMAC said:
You're kidding right???
You are telling me that you "don't even have TV's for the most part" yet you all have LAPTOPS to watch movies on?

I was at WalMart this weekend and could have walked out of there with a 15" LCD TV for $248. The cheapest Mac Laptop, with EDU discount, is $949.

When I went to college, over a decade ago, only the kids with rich parents had computers in their apartments/dorm rooms, but for God's sake there was a 24" TV in my apartment which I still have in my home office now. And that damn TV was a HAND ME DOWN.

If a college kid can afford a tablet Mac with a "dock" then I think you can go buy a 32" Tube TV at Target/WalMart for $100.

But anyways... MacBook, June 13th... no sooner. Just in time for Graduations.

That's how it is in school since you need a computer for the most part in college but not a tv. So when a computer can play dvd's why buy a tv. That's how I did it as well as my friends. It's not an issue over affordability for the most part (can be we are college stsudents after all)but more making the most use of what you have.
 
My guess is the reason the Intel iBooks are taking so long to release is 2 things.

1.) They are trying to make core duo standard across the board/ no core solo, and they are aiming at releasing when the price of the chips fall.

2.) Apple is making sure the Intel iBooks will not have the same hardware problems the MBP's are having.

just my guess,
 
student_trap said:
here's what im hoping (realistically) for:

Upper model:

13" laptop
1 gig ram
1.83/2 GHz Core Duo
128 MB dedicated graphics card
100 GB HDD (5.400 rpm.)
iSight
FrontRow
illuminated keyboard

I am going on holiday to Japan in August. If Apple releases a MacBook with those specifications before I get back to England, then I will definitely buy one while I'm out there!
 
Balli said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by student_trap
here's what im hoping (realistically) for:

Upper model:

13" laptop
1 gig ram
1.83/2 GHz Core Duo
128 MB dedicated graphics card
100 GB HDD (5.400 rpm.)
iSight
FrontRow
illuminated keyboard

I am going on holiday to Japan in August. If Apple releases a MacBook with those specifications before I get back to England, then I will definitely buy one while I'm out there!

That would make it nearly better then the macbook pro. I wish that something like that came out though, going to pick up a new machine in the next 1/2 year
 
When is the store in NYC openning? and is it possible they would release the macbook in conjunction with that?
jobs is going isn't he?
 
My Guess

Pure speculation, but the apple "get a mac" ads that are running on apple.com will be followed with the macbook announcement. The quicktime homepage is a bit laggy, so I can't imagine it lasting more then 1 week or 2, and after that, Macbooks
 
"On the other side of Apple's business, the analyst's report said that he doesn't expect Apple to experience the same issues with an Intel-based iBook as the company saw with the MacBook Pro. He explained: "We believe Apple wanted to release the MacBook Pro in conjunction with Macworld '06 and, we believe, the company was, therefore, forced to announce the product before it was fully prepared. With the iBook, Apple does not have to manage around a set tradeshow date and can simply announce and ship the product when it is completely ready."

http://www.macobserver.com/stockwatch/2006/05/04.1.shtml

i certainly hope so, i still cannot understand how Apple released the MBP with such a high percent of them having issues. The cheapest PC laptop wouldn't ever see that day...
 
What "Issues" Has The MBP Had? I Don't Remember Any "Issues" Being Reported

mac000 said:
"On the other side of Apple's business, the analyst's report said that he doesn't expect Apple to experience the same issues with an Intel-based iBook as the company saw with the MacBook Pro. He explained: "We believe Apple wanted to release the MacBook Pro in conjunction with Macworld '06 and, we believe, the company was, therefore, forced to announce the product before it was fully prepared. With the iBook, Apple does not have to manage around a set tradeshow date and can simply announce and ship the product when it is completely ready."

http://www.macobserver.com/stockwatch/2006/05/04.1.shtml

i certainly hope so, i still cannot understand how Apple released the MBP with such a high percent of them having issues. The cheapest PC laptop wouldn't ever see that day...
Excuse me, but What "Issues" Has The MBP Had? I Don't Remember Any "Issues" Being Reported. Have I overlooked an "Issues" string? As far as I know, they all work perfectly. Please explain the meaning of the word "Issues". :eek:

I am not kidding. I do not know of any issues being reported here. THIS IS NOT A SARCASTIC JOKE POST.
 
Multimedia said:
Excuse me, but What "Issues" Has The MBP Had? I Don't Remember Any "Issues" Being Reported. Have I overlooked an "Issues" string? As far as I know, they all work perfectly. Please explain the meaning of the word "Issues". :eek:
I KNEW IT! Multimedia must work for AppleCare! :rolleyes: :) They always pull that same shlt on me when I call with any issue that is well known in user forums.
 
If they are so well known how come I have not read about any?

ImAlwaysRight said:
I KNEW IT! Multimedia must work for AppleCare! :rolleyes: :) They always pull that same shlt on me when I call with any issue that is well known in user forums.
I am not kidding. I do not know of any issues being reported here. If they are so well known how come I have not read about any? I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC. I AM SERIOUS. WHAT "ISSUES"?

I wish I did work for AppleCare. Can you hook me up?
mdsll said:
Thanks for the clue. Now I understand. I think beta testers should be glad these are the only problems.

Heat, Flicker, Noise, Battery Failure, Improper Heat Sink Coolant Installation Instructions - what's the problem? - NOW I'M BEING SARCASTIC.
 
Multimedia said:
I am not kidding. I do not know of any issues being reported here. If they are so well known how come I have not read about any? I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC. I AM SERIOUS. WHAT "ISSUES"?

I wish I did work for AppleCare. Can you hook me up?


I swear I would call Apple Care and be like "yea theres like 25+ dead pixels on my screen, the fan on my computer sounds like a lawnmower, my keyboard isn't working, my mouse broke, the side of my computer is melting..." and Apple Care A) wouldn't believe me, B) tell me to repair disk permissions.

I swear those 1st rep's you get a hold of at Apple Care are bogus, If anyone's ever actually got through to the "2nd" rep, you know what Im talking about
 
Once I got into an argument with the owner of a local Apple repair store bc I had install/reinstall OSX dvds that did not work.

Anyways, he told me Apple Care reps get paid for how many calls they make, they are suppose to try to get you off the phone as quick as possible so they can make their money..
 
mac000 said:
I swear I would call Apple Care and be like "yea theres like 25+ dead pixels on my screen, the fan on my computer sounds like a lawnmower, my keyboard isn't working, my mouse broke, the side of my computer is melting..." and Apple Care A) wouldn't believe me, B) tell me to repair disk permissions.

I swear those 1st rep's you get a hold of at Apple Care are bogus, If anyone's ever actually got through to the "2nd" rep, you know what Im talking about

Apple, like most computer companies, has "tiers" of support reps. The "tier 1" people who answer the phone usually can't do more than just read a script. The good ones are few and far between.

I was "tier 4" for $LARGE_UNIX_COMPANY, and I was sometimes driven nuts by the "tier 1" people. For example, being at a large customer site, having debugged a problem with a very expensive computer, calling the call center, identifying myself, and asking for the necessary part only to be asked for the basic configuration information.

Me: "Perhaps you don't understand. I work for xyz, just like you, and I'm the senior engineer at the customer site. I need $PART from the depot, now!"

Droid: "I'm sorry, but I need the $DIAGNOSTIC_UTILITY output before I can open a case."

Me: "AAAAAAGH! There *is* a case, I've already given you the number."

...and so on...

I blame the companies who hire entry-level, low-cost people (often not even in the same country) to do the front-line support. It should be just the opposite - people with experience could reduce customer frustration and the number of calls held. But, as long as $SUITS run things, that'll never happen.
 
Waiting For Logistics To Have Them All In Position To Sell On Announcement Day

mp42 said:
The MacBooks are already in production, for at least a month now. I guess Steve is just waiting for the perfect moment.
Yes. And that "perfect moment" is when marketing has a big enough supply in position all over the planet so when they announce them they can sell them to tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of customers the same day. Patience. :)
 
Apple's Ship Dates Are Very Conservative And Often Later Than Reality

stew400523 said:
Hi I haven't posted much but please don't flame me. I only post when I think its important. I was wondering what are other people's estimated shipping date for their 17" MacBook Pro? Mine is scheduled to ship by May 10th and to be arrived by the 17th. I called an apple rep and he even said that it could be shipped as early as the 5th of May.
Apple's Ship Dates Are Very Conservative And Often Later Than Reality. I've had a ship date out 30 days that shipped the day after I placed the order. So what you were told could very well be true. :)
 
Multimedia said:
Excuse me, but What "Issues" Has The MBP Had? I Don't Remember Any "Issues" Being Reported. Have I overlooked an "Issues" string? As far as I know, they all work perfectly. Please explain the meaning of the word "Issues". :eek:

I am not kidding. I do not know of any issues being reported here. THIS IS NOT A SARCASTIC JOKE POST.

Battery recall.. and the electrical issues with Mag-safe. Those are the legit ones I know of.
 
this thread has sort of gone off topic with the mention of Xserves and stuff. quite frankly, theres no point trying to guess, because i dont many of us would be right.
 
So, the new get a mac adds, will make many people visit apple.com
then they kind of need a cheap laptop to show off, therfore, Macbook the next incoming days.

Also, as soon as I see a MacBook in the applestore, I will order it right away.


:)
 
peharri said:
I still have difficulty understanding the logic of those who argue that introducing a mid-range headless Mac implies dropping the iMac.

I'd say the iBook and Powerbooks represent greater competition for the iMac than a headless Mac ever would be.

The iMac is an all-in-one. If you want a mid-range tower Mac right now, you have one choice: Buy it from Dell, and install a pirate version of Mac OS X. And that's not even legal. Nobody who wants a mid-range tower's going to buy:

- A Mac mini - because it isn't one.
- An iMac - because it's not one either.
- A PowerMac - because it's too expensive

And nobody who wants an iMac is going to buy a mid-range tower, even if they do come out. They might buy a notebook though, as notebooks are AIO too.

Peharri, if the answers were so obvious in your favor, Apple would've released one already...fact is, a non-AIO MidMac goes DIRECTLY against the margins presented by the iMac (or low-end MBs, for that matter).

Therefore, there is no point in launching a machine that will: 1) almost kill the need for a MacMini; 2) kill the clear need for an iMac.

A MidMac ought to be between the MacMini and the iMac price-wise...how does Apple do that? I have no clue, and I find it really insane in terms of market strategy...I'd rather kill the MacMini and launch a MidMac, but at the risk of losing the low-end/switcher market altogether...

Again, my vote is NO...and Apple is following my opinion as well, ever since 1996 (Cube excluded).
 
As seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_ZVgYLAqs

Steve says that upto that point, Intel sales account for 50% of all Mac Sales. Thats shows how popular Apple and the Mac brand is right now. These TV ads, (sadly not in the UK) will answer many peoples questions. Although, i can bet that most people would buy an iMac to replace their own PC because of bootcamp. BUT, i sure do hope these Macbooks come out soon.

Even if its a lowkey event, It wont matter much, because people will buy them regardless.
 
Next Week...?

Im betting the new ibooks are going to be announced next week. With this new media blitz Jobs would be an idiot not to release them...unless of course they ran into more delays (splooging too much thermal grease on the mainboards). Also I got a $30 off coupon from Apple that expires on the 6th so that might mean something too.
 
Before anybody says something, yes I know the new Intel iBooks are going to be called MacBooks.

Imagine this situation in a shop selling Macs:

Buyer: I'm interested in buying a MacBook
Retail Assistant: Sure, which one?
Buyer: (confused) the laptop, I mean...
Retail Assistant: Yes, the normal one or Pro? (Brings out both versions)
Buyer: Now I'm confused!

and

Buyer: I would like to buy a MacBook
Retail Assistant: OK, come this way and choose the specs you'd like on your new Mac (taking the buyer to a row of MacBooks on display)
Buyer: Oh no, sorry, I mean the powerful ones, MacBook Pro
Retail Assistant: Oh no probs, easy mistake there (takes the buyer to the MacBook Pros)


This could bring confusion with people buying their first Mac by telling which is MacBook or MacBook Pro or some simply calling the MBP as MacBook they can't be arsed to say "Pro" though that would really help to differnate both models.

I believe the new Intel iBook should be named differently to MacBook Pro, unlike some people I don't think MBP is named because it is a prosumer laptop so the consumer laptop is MacBook...

I think it is because the MacBook Pro is named in line with the Mac Pro (new name for Power Mac) so I would like the consumer laptop to remain as iBook or iMacBook using the "i" going with iMac. That wouldn't cause problems by saying which MacBook - the normal one or the Pro one.
 
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