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I will be replacing my 1st generation ipad this year (finally). It still works ok, safari crashes constantly.

I've been wanting to upgrade every year, but never felt that the new offerings were compelling enough to pull the trigger.

Really if you have time it well, you can at least upgrade every other year by selling to Nextworth or Gazelle.

Anyway, you pick a great time to upgrade from A4 -> A8 - that will be a fabulous upgrade!

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umm Others has 37% of the market, I wouldn't say Apple is leading.

How would they or you know? Only Apple releases sales numbers...to me this is still 70-80 Apple market share
 
There's been a huge increase in Lenovo promotion / cheap pricing here in Brisbane over the last 12 months.. Especially on the tablets..
 
I know of no one who owns an Android pad

If I take into account all of my friends, family, business associates I know of no one, zero, zilch, nada who own an android based pad. Phones, yes, pads, no.

So who in the hell own those POS?
 
If I take into account all of my friends, family, business associates I know of no one, zero, zilch, nada who own an android based pad. Phones, yes, pads, no.

So who in the hell own those POS?

I just bought a galaxy s 10.5 tab as an upgrade to my iPad 1 I've had since the beginning. Screen is amazing and I consider that the most important thing on a media consumption device like a tablet. It's also very light and slim! Competition has definitely improved!
 
The drop is as usual, due to the expectation of new models.

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I just bought a galaxy s 10.5 tab as an upgrade to my iPad 1 I've had since the beginning. Screen is amazing and I consider that the most important thing on a media consumption device like a tablet. It's also very light and slim! Competition has definitely improved!

Congratulations, let's talk again in a couple months, and let's see if you have the same opinion.
 
I want to update my family's older iPads for Christmas along with mine, so I know of at least three new versions that will be sold as soon as they are released. :)

My four year old + iPad is ready for a refresh, so count me in for a new one. Cool! :apple:

I have the New (3) Ipad. I was ready to turn it in for the Air. But I am still waiting. I love my iPhone 5s with the TouchID, but if that is all that the new one brings, I may still wait. I want an iPad that truly has the ability to replace a laptop. Like a good keyboard cover and the ability to have multiple windows open at the same time; and the ability to copy from one window to the other. If they announce this, I am in big. Just announce TouchID and a spec bump and I will stick with the iPhone purchase.
 
These numbers do not represent a decline in "sales." They represent an increase in sales, but a decline in the growth of sales. Please get the journalism right. Thx.
 
These numbers do not represent a decline in "sales." They represent an increase in sales, but a decline in the growth of sales. Please get the journalism right. Thx.

We don't know from the numbers shown if there's a decline in growth. They show however, a decline in sales market share.
 
We are talking about the YOY drop.

Not everyone can upgrade their tablet every year. At some point all potential tablet users will own one, many without the need to buy another one for a while.

And now there are a lot of other cheaper alternatives. Many people, including some friends and others related to me, think all tablets are the same so they end up buying a cheap one; a few weeks later they start to regret it and eventually buy an iPad.
 
IDC uses bogus numbers.

Part of the fallout of the Apple/Samsung trial included the real number of tablets Samsung sold, not the numbers they reported to IDC. (Which IDC lapped up.)
 
I'd love to see a breakdown of iPad/tablet sales in Australia...it would be a verrrrrry different story! I honestly don't think I know anyone who has an android tablet.
 
At this point market share does not really matter anymore. There are so many tablets bring sold at a way cheaper price point than the iPad.

I think apple should only really be worried when they get strong competition in the higher tablet market.

That's always been the problem with they way they report these stats.

But they're right. Technically... 1 Android tablet = 1 iPad.... no matter what it costs.

In reality though... 1 cheap Android tablet sold for $50 in India doesn't really get the results of 1 iPad.

Developers know this... and that's why they aren't concerned with making apps for all those garbage tablets sold in developing nations. Who cares if Android tablets have 73% of the tablet market when a majority of those people won't buy your app anyway?

Accessory makers know this too. The iPad may only have 27% of the tablet market... but iPad owners tend to buy more stuff for their iPads. So that's why there are many 3rd-party accessories for the iPad... market share be damned.

So yeah... market share make a great headline... but there's no compelling story behind it.

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In my opinion, it is! I have a 4th-gen and an Air. The Air's screen cracked spontaneously after a few months, but the 4th-gen is still in great shape.

"...the Air's screen cracked spontaneously" -- really???

Screens generally don't "crack spontaneously" -- regardless of brand. (Actually, that might happen with one of those cheapo Chinese $49 BOGO Android tablets that seem to be grabbing market share nowadays.) I have yet to hear or read of ANY device's screen cracking spontaneously while it was just sitting there or being used normally.

The more probable cause is that you unknowingly "dropped/sat on/stepped on/crushed/etc. the screen 'spontaneously'" --> and that caused the crack. Or someone else did the damage and didn't tell you about it.

At the very least, bring it in to be checked for a manufacturing defect... That's what a factory warranty is for!
 
Am I the only one who seems to think its a bit off to have the "other" category almost twice amount sold as the highest? Also, The lowest Acer, has 1 million, sold and "other" has 21.9 million. That means that the "other" category consists of at least 22 separate companies in the survey. My guess is that it's a much greater number of companies and a small number of sales. I would also guess that most of these others are nothing more than kids toys, and really should not be counted as a tablet.
 
"...the Air's screen cracked spontaneously" -- really???

The more probable cause is that you unknowingly "dropped/sat on/stepped on/crushed/etc. the screen 'spontaneously'" --> and that caused the crack. Or someone else did the damage and didn't tell you about it.

Exactly what I was thinking.

My original Nexus 7 screen went bad, when I turn it on it's as if the screen was impacted (LCD panel is broken) but the outer glass and casing is pristine! I talk about it as if it "spontaneously" broke... I guess it's possible I could've dropped it and it broke the internal panel, just surprised there's no external evidence of that. Of course this is the tablet you can practically pry apart with your bare hands...
 
In another topic certain people were saying Samsung was going down due to one bad quarter. I brought up sales of Samsung of the previous quarters and they called me a fanboy due to it, because one bad quarter means the end of the world.

I'm sure these people will come too say Apple is doo.................... Oh, who is kidding anyone, they'll either not post or they'll just defend Apple like a good fanboy.
 
I wonder how much Apple's marketshare suffers from the fact that they make a product that isn't quickly tossed out for the latest and greatest or requires a new purchase to get an operating system update.

I know many iPad owners who are still on their first iPad (including me--the iPad 2 is still going great, even on iOS 7.) I also know many Android tablet owners who, in the same time I've owned my iPad, are on their second or third tablet.

I'm betting the user numbers would look significantly different from the market share figures.

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In another topic certain people were saying Samsung was going down due to one bad quarter.

It's always amusing to me when someone on a discussion forum attributes to everyone on the site what a few people said in some recent thread. :rolleyes:
 
I googled it, there is no "Others Inc." must be a typo..

Does it matter? A lost sale to Samsung vs. a lost sale to Acme tablets is a lost sale to Apple both ways. To me it's harder to compete against 20 smaller OEM's taking a share of the pie vs. 1 large OEM. At least with 1 OEM you can compete directly.
Do you want 20 small ants in your house vs. 1 large one? Easier to catch 1 large one before it can reproduce.
 
In before "Apple reports sold, Samsung (and others) report shipped".

For their press releases, Apple quotes quantity shipped.

Samsung doesn't usually report quantity at all, except when they hit major marks.

These numbers do not represent a decline in "sales." They represent an increase in sales, but a decline in the growth of sales. Please get the journalism right. Thx.

The article clearly points out that it was a decline in sales YoY.

"(Apple) shipping only 13.3 million iPads (...), compared to 14.6 million in the year-ago quarter."

Part of the fallout of the Apple/Samsung trial included the real number of tablets Samsung sold, not the numbers they reported to IDC. (Which IDC lapped up.)

1. Samsung doesn't report to IDC. IDC does their own research.

2. The trial numbers were for US sales only, which were a fraction of the world sales Samsung had reported. Sloppy bloggers mixed them up.

3. Apple themselves quote IDC all the time. In fact, just the other day during the last earnings call, Tim Cook quoted IDC:

"iPad sales met our expectations but we realized they didn’t meet many of yours.

"Our sales were gated in-part by a reduction in channel inventory and in-part by market softness in certain parts of the world.

"For example IDC’s latest estimate indicates a 5% overall decline in the U.S. tablet market, as well as a decline in the Western European tablet market in the June quarter."

- Tim Cook F3Q 2014 call

Basically he gave the same reasons for lower sales that Samsung had recently mentioned, except one half of Samsung's revenue drop was solely due to stronger Korean currency, so the exchange rate made their revenue amount look smaller.
 
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