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Apple Maintains Tablet Market Share Lead Despite iPad Sales Drop

inkswamp said:
I wonder how much Apple's marketshare suffers from the fact that they make a product that isn't quickly tossed out for the latest and greatest or requires a new purchase to get an operating system update.

I know many iPad owners who are still on their first iPad (including me--the iPad 2 is still going great, even on iOS 7.) I also know many Android tablet owners who, in the same time I've owned my iPad, are on their second or third tablet.

I'm betting the user numbers would look significantly different from the market share figures.

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It's always amusing to me when someone on a discussion forum attributes to everyone on the site what a few people said in some recent thread. :rolleyes:
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How exactly am I attributing everyone when I said 'certain people'? You should check the definition of 'certain', because that's more of a direct statement (Without naming names) then a general statement.
 
kdarling said:
For their press releases, Apple quotes quantity shipped.

Samsung doesn't usually report quantity at all, except when they hit major marks.



The article clearly points out that it was a decline in sales YoY.

"(Apple) shipping only 13.3 million iPads (...), compared to 14.6 million in the year-ago quarter."



1. Samsung doesn't report to IDC. IDC does their own research.

2. The trial numbers were for US sales only, which were a fraction of the world sales Samsung had reported. Sloppy bloggers mixed them up.

3. Apple themselves quote IDC all the time. In fact, just the other day during the last earnings call, Tim Cook quoted IDC:



Basically he gave the same reasons for lower sales that Samsung had recently mentioned, except one half of Samsung's revenue drop was solely due to stronger Korean currency, so the exchange rate made their revenue amount look smaller.
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Dammit kdarling. Your facts are getting in the way of the excuse making.;)
 
iPad is dramatically outselling any Samsung tablet for one big reason. It's just a better tablet. Sure, a big plastic Samsung tablet might have a higher res display, or some other pointless spec improvement, but the iPad has over half a million apps designed very specifically for resolution and screen aspect ratio. For some reason, the apps out for android tablets tend to be horrifyingly bad.

Elbon said:
In my opinion, it is! I have a 4th-gen and an Air. The Air's screen cracked spontaneously after a few months, but the 4th-gen is still in great shape.
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Buddy, screens don't crack "spontaneously". Lol. They test for glass and display defects before shipment too. So if your display cracked easily, it was because of stresses and microfractures imposed on the panel during your ownership.
 
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ElTorro said:
:eek: Almost 10% drop in growth?
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People say "market share doesn't matter" but that 10% drop combined with a drop of 1/4 of its market share... ouch. This is the late 1980s again. Justifying a drop in market share by claiming a higher percentage of the profits. Where did that get us in the 1990s? Oh yeah.

Ouch, for when history starts to repeat and bandwagoners are swimming neck-deep in denial.
 
MacLC said:
People say "market share doesn't matter" but that 10% drop combined with a drop of 1/4 of its market share... ouch. This is the late 1980s again. Justifying a drop in market share by claiming a higher percentage of the profits. Where did that get us in the 1990s? Oh yeah.

Ouch, for when history starts to repeat and bandwagoners are swimming neck-deep in denial.
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You're right... Apple didn't have very much PC market share in the 80's, 90's or the 00's. And they still don't today.

And during all that time... Sony, Compaq, IBM and Gateway sold themselves to other PC makers... and HP and Dell actually considered leaving the consumer PC market altogether.

Sure... Apple had a close call in the 90's... but they managed to avoid the PC Graveyard.

Apple is selling more Macs now than they ever have before. They're probably the most successful consumer PC manufacturer.

Yet you still knock Apple for not having enough market share.

So I gotta ask... how much market share does Apple need?
 
Zellio said:
How exactly am I attributing everyone when I said 'certain people'? You should check the definition of 'certain', because that's more of a direct statement (Without naming names) then a general statement.
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Uh-huh. Then what was the point of saying that other than to imply those present felt the same way? Were you just really excited about that other thread and felt the sudden impulse to let us know what was going on in it? :rolleyes:

I've been on this site for ages and have seen that tactic a million times. Give it a rest.
 
Tablets last as long as laptops - of course there's going to be a dip, you're not replacing an iPad every year (or even every three).
 
Hastings101 said:
umm Others has 37% of the market, I wouldn't say Apple is leading.
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I'd guess 90 percent of those "other" sales are the ultra-cheap (~$50) tablets. Many of these are sold to people who could never afford an iPad-class tablet, so they're not really competitors or taking sales away from Apple/Samsung.
 
digi999 said:
Tablets last as long as laptops - of course there's going to be a dip, you're not replacing an iPad every year (or even every three).
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Good point, but do people want to drop $700-$900 every yr on a new ipad?
 
Micro center was selling a $19 tablet a couple of months ago. I remember the line being out the door people lining up to get these tablets. The return rate for these tablets were astronomical they were just pure junk. That's the problem with a wide open market like tablets manufactures just push junk onto the market just to make a quick buck screwing the consumers.
 
cube said:
I think a similar thing would happen to the iPhone if it were not for carrier "subsidies".
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This is the easily the biggest risk to Apple's future. iPad sales are down because there are much less expensive alternatives that are "good enough".

Carrier subsidies keep price deltas in check. However, many families in the USA are switching to new family plans with much lower monthly costs and no subsidies. When they are ready for new devices, "good enough" will pull many away from iPhone too.

My daughter got an iPhone 5 when it was still the current phone for $0 +tax because of subsidy and Best Buy promotion. We later switched to a non-subsidized plan to save $50/month. You can bet that I'll think twice before spending $600 to replace it.
 
iPad sales

I wonder if ipad sales might reflect the reality that people are keeping their iPads for a longer period of time? I still use my ipad2, even though I also purchased an iPad mini.

Are people hoping to keep their iPads almost as long as they would keep a laptop?
 
pure-rockstar said:
Is the iPad Air the weakest iPad release?
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Yes. Sold mine. Got enough buggies... Maybe Im getting it back on round 2 if it has more memory and no more "memory low" warnings and then finally crashing. Never should be released, imho.
 
elgrecomac said:
If I take into account all of my friends, family, business associates I know of no one, zero, zilch, nada who own an android based pad. Phones, yes, pads, no.

So who in the hell own those POS?
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Unless you know everyone in the entire world, then probably some of those people.

In my house we have 2 iPads and Nexus tabs. I could extrapolate those numbers out too, but then it would be just as meaningless.
 
WBRacing said:
Unless you know everyone in the entire world, then probably some of those people.

In my house we have 2 iPads and Nexus tabs. I could extrapolate those numbers out too, but then it would be just as meaningless.
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Well, given that I figure with family, friends and 30 years worth of business contacts it brings my number well into the hundreds, it is, statistically, not meaningless. Now if we are talking android phones, then it's about 50/50 but at the pad/tablet level, I have yet to see them in the wild with any regularity. I work at Cisco, an no one carries an android tablet, only Apple. I have business lunches at places like Applied Materials and Intel...again I've never seen an android tablet there either. Yes, my observation is only one mans observation but It's a pretty wide view.

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elgrecomac said:
Well, given that I figure with family, friends and 30 years worth of business contacts it brings my number well into the hundreds, it is, statistically, not meaningless. Now if we are talking android phones, then it's about 50/50 but at the pad/tablet level, I have yet to see them in the wild with any regularity. I work at Cisco, an no one carries an android tablet, only Apple. I have business lunches at places like Applied Materials and Intel...again I've never seen an android tablet there either. Yes, my observation is only one mans observation but It's a pretty wide view.

:cool:
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I also work in the Valley and can attest to this ratio. But I have to ask how do these professionals handle something as simple as replying to an email with an attachment (especially PowerPoint as most companies run on it)? This is something I do daily and no iOS device allows me to do so. What I notice with all of these iPad users is a companion MacBook for these types of activities. Not really post-PC if you ask me.
 
Apple reminds me of my old wealthy grandfather.

With a mind boggling stash of cash, income streams are almost meaningless. Apple has revealed that they no longer need to create or innovate. Just coast along pontificating and posturing. Nothing else matters.
 
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