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Apple Watch didn't redefine a category?
It did. But when I see what they came up with in the first generation and compare it to what we have now, I can't help noticing that there's hardly any progress. It feels like they've implemented an early vision of Steve and since then just refine a bit here and there but never actually think what this device (software/UI) could be capable of with six more years of technology under the hood.

Still a great device though. But that hockey puck has been left at the face-off spot ever since it was put there.
 
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I can work without an Apple Watch, its an accessory. Even Apple itself see's as such to not break it out. The fact that it even requires an iPhone to still work doesn't make it that much more amazing than say even AirPods. I would say AirPods has more edge.

It may be an accessory but it does so much in my opinion, that its importance to my daily routine is as crucial as the iPhone.
 
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Miss you Steve! You may be gone but your legacy will stay in this world forever. Love you Steve. Today, Apple may be 2 trillion dollar company but it is not the same without you.

So many great people like Jon, Phil, Scott have left the company after you left. It is not the same. RIP 🪦

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You've said it beautifully. I'm grateful that I got to experience Apple with him still at the helm. Absolutely nobody in the world is like Steve Jobs and his closest collaborators.
 
I still remember the day he passed away like it was yesterday. Many people brought flowers to Apple Stores around the globe to honor not a sportsmen, not a signer or an actor, but a simple entrepreneur and CEO of a tech company.

I also remember clearly the day I bought the first iPhone. I exited the store, sit on a bench in a park next to the store and spent hours exploring every single menu. It felt like I had in my hand some tech from the future and a truly remarkable product. I still keep this iPhone, even with broken screen and someday I will show it to my son and tell him the story of when the new era of mobile communications and internet in general began, and the crucial part Steve had in it.
 
In this day and age innovation of a sector is seldom seen due to the explosive amount of innovation that the world has witnessed over the last 20 years, what we see now is just incremental improvements on existing technology.

Innovation is normally only seen when there is something that is in everyday life that we didn't know we needed. Nowadays we pretty much have everything we need to make our lives easier and what were innovations 20-30 years ago are now commonplace. Having been in the IT industry for over 30 years ago I Have seen a slowdown in the last 10-15 with really just improvements and enhancements on the same theme.

I used to solder memory upgrades onto original IBM AT/XT PC's, I used to only have a carphone with an aerial that either needed to have a hole drilled or cable run through the car to the glass, the first REAL laptop was really just a more moveable PC with a screen. First mobile phone had to be carried with a car battery etc etc etc

As our knowledge has improved and technological advances have happened nobody in the late 80's could have predicted where we are now, few visionaries have the power to say "What if" and "Why not" and end up answering both. Most multi-national companies have a duty to either owners, board or shareholders to not take risks that could make the company fail.

When SJ came back to a near bankrupt company the "What's the worst that can happen" got added to the "What if" and "Why not"........roll forward and I think everyone would agree the "What if" and "Why not" have been answered and have also been replaced by "How can we" and "When can we"

RIP SJ
 
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Steve Jobs changed our lives for the better with the Mac. And many more things.
 
I can work without an Apple Watch, its an accessory. Even Apple itself see's as such to not break it out. The fact that it even requires an iPhone to still work doesn't make it that much more amazing than say even AirPods. I would say AirPods has more edge.
To be fair, the first iPhones also needed a Mac or Windows PC and had no App Store. Then the App Store came. And finally iPhone didn't require a Mac or PC anymore.
The Apple Watch needed an iPhone for everything first. Then it got an App Store. Who knows if in the future it will still need an iPhone or an iOS/iPadOS device? (I suppose it depends on how Apple sees it: is iPhone a way to sell more watches, or watches a way to sell more iPhones or maybe iPad (later), or is everything strong enough to stand on its own?)
 
Some people said the same about the iPhone, compared to Palm and Blackberry phones… 😉
I don't remember Palm or Blackberry phones that looked like the iPhone. Yes there were some phones with resistive touchscreens and even some apps, but nothing like the iPhone.
 
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It may be an accessory but it does so much in my opinion, that its importance to my daily routine is as crucial as the iPhone.

Same here for me.

Similar to iPod 20 years ago going beyond what the dozen or two MP3 players provided at the time, there were other electronic display watches out there. But it was the Apple Watch that took it up to the next level in functionality/features and style (as did Apple's iPad going beyond existing tablets, such as HP's). Add in how health oriented aspects have evolved, with more coming in the future, for me it's up there with iPhone in daily engagement. I don't leave home without my Watch. It's more than an accessory.
 
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I remember going to the Mothership a couple days after he died. It was hard to not tear up, and feel sad. I mean, what a mix. Finally being 'there', and seeing the outpouring of grief that was filling the front yard. Wow... It was a chilly morning too, and I unconsciously grabbed a black Under Armour turtleneck to wear with my 505's. I was getting some looks from people there, and then realized what I had done. I didn't intend on mocking him in any way, but I think others there possibly felt that way. It's all I had brought to be warm. (People back in the city (SFO) were commenting that it was chillier than normal)

I also remember arriving at Kona Village, and just missing his entourage as he left for the mainland. I only found out about it weeks later. KV was not about to announce that he was there, or had just left. (I was so saddened when they failed to rebuild after the tsunami that hit. I can see why steve loved it)
 
I don't remember Palm or Blackberry phones that looked like the iPhone. Yes there were some phones with resistive touchscreens and even some apps, but nothing like the iPhone.

Not until much later. I remember thinking that the BlackBerry looked like a scientific calculator more than a phone. Someone gave me theirs to use, and I was just lost with all of the buttons, but hey, it was popular, and users clung to them for way too long.
 
Apple Watch didn't redefine a category?

Apparently not unless Steve had anything to do with it (according to some) 😂 I'm a Steve Jobs fan, for sure, but some people have an almost religious devotion to him to the point they trash (or at best downplay) everything Apple has done since Steve died.
 
Its just that Apple hasn't really skated to where the puck was going in the past 10 years much. It has been mostly a reactionary innovations.

Larger screen iPhones
Wearable devices like the Apple Watch
HomePod
Apple Music
Apple TV+
OLED
120 Mhz screens on the iPhone

All of these have been responses, albeit, good responses. But, the idea of redefining a category, I am yet to see that from Apple.
I disagree with this. Everything Apple has EVER done has been their riff on existing technologies.

I think that Apple is STILL skating to where the puck is going to be, because their puck has ALWAYS been "ease-of-use" and "integration", both with the user and the devices themselves. Their aim has always been to reduce the friction between the tool and the user.

And to this day, NO ONE does those two things better than Apple.

In the last 10 years, the iPhone, iPad, Mac, AirPods, Watch, Pencil, AirTags, and all their existing and new Cloud services have become one entity. From the way things pair up, to the smoothness of accessibility of data across devices, to the ever refined app behavior choices...

It's not been perfect or flawless, but at least for me I can either overlook the flaws or wait them out.

However, I concede that muscle memory comes into play for some users, and Apple is not (and never has been) for everybody, in every scenario.

It's easy to take for granted, but the innovation is there.

You can call it reactionary but whatever it is, it keeps me coming back.
 
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I’m too young to have followed Jobs long. But he is the only “celebrity” I honestly miss. Just his passion and drive.

I will remember the day I read of his passing on my iPad and texted my father on my iPhone. He changed the world without hyperbole.
Love that, "He changed the world without hyperbole." - sums it up perfectly. Miss that man. One of the few times I have shed a tear at work is when I read that he had passed. I, somehow by chance, also had to pickup my laptop for repair from the Genius Bar that day and remember it being incredibly quiet and somber. I also bought my first Apple TV that day. I screen shotted Apple's site that day.
 

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Apple Watch didn't redefine a category?

Are you sure?

I had a Pebble Watch, and it was supposed to 'redefine the category', and it was a POS, IMO. Hated the thing. I ended up tossing it into a box for donation, and hope to never see it again.

The Apple Watch, like so much of Apple's stuff, improved on the market, and lead in a lot of innovation. Most of their products pushed their respective markets farther than they had been. Some may argue that, but I believe it. *shrug*
 
I’m too young to have followed Jobs long. But he is the only “celebrity” I honestly miss. Just his passion and drive.

I will remember the day I read of his passing on my iPad and texted my father on my iPhone. He changed the world without hyperbole.

He was a mercurial force in most peoples lives that knew him. I'm sure he was a genius, but he was also an ******, and a jerk, but he knew what he wanted, and knew how to get it. After reading the Jobs book, I wondered what his life would have been like if he hadn't been at Apple like he was. He would likely have been miserable, and a real PITA.

Not everything he did was good, but not all of it was bad either. It would have been interesting to have had the chance to meet him, but I doubt it would have been meaningful to either one of us. I've met, and worked for, oozing ****** characters before, who hasn't, but he had a certain way of making himself look peculiar, mysterious, charismatic, and likeable. In real life, he seems to be more a situational chameleon.

He drove Apple to a lot of heights, and a few lows. Apple wouldn't be what it is, and was, without him for sure. (Some see Elon Musk as a Jobs clone, and I can't/won't buy that at all)

But anyway...

He had an effect on a lot of people, worldwide, and enabled a lot of positivity, creativity, and we are all greater for it.

To steve! 🍺 Thanks dude...
 
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Apparently not unless Steve had anything to do with it (according to some) 😂 I'm a Steve Jobs fan, for sure, but some people have an almost religious devotion to him to the point they trash (or at best downplay) everything Apple has done since Steve died.

Sadly, true.
 
I disagree with this. Everything Apple has EVER done has been their riff on existing technologies.

I think that Apple is STILL skating to where the puck is going to be, because their puck has ALWAYS been "ease-of-use" and "integration", both with the user and the devices themselves. Their aim has always been to reduce the friction between the tool and the user.

And to this day, NO ONE does those two things better than Apple.

In the last 10 years, the iPhone, iPad, Mac, AirPods, Watch, Pencil, AirTags, and all their existing and new Cloud services have become one entity. From the way things pair up, to the smoothness of accessibility of data across devices, to the ever refined app behavior choices...

It's not been perfect or flawless, but at least for me I can either overlook the flaws or wait them out.

However, I concede that muscle memory comes into play for some users, and Apple is not (and never has been) for everybody, in every scenario.

It's easy to take for granted, but the innovation is there.

You can call it reactionary but whatever it is, it keeps me coming back.

Truth.
 
There were imperfections even during Steve Jobs as CEO but do you think we would get iOS 11, iOS 13, and iOS 15 as how they are if he was still alive today?

Apple's Keynotes without Steve Jobs feel different...
I’ve always - deep down - waited for him to appear some time during the September event from behind the curtains in an explosion of applauses.
 
I commend those currently at Apple who seem genuine in their intent to advance the legacy Steve Jobs left whilst remembering him and what he did. I'm sure Steve would be delighted. Good job Tim Cook, you should be proud for carrying yourself so well in the face of such a legend. Love to Steve and his family.
 
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