Not anymore. Its in second or third place now I believe.Apple is the most valuable international company on the planet .
Not anymore. Its in second or third place now I believe.Apple is the most valuable international company on the planet .
It just regained it’s first position- irrelevant- it should have a high standardNot anymore. Its in second or third place now I believe.
The problem with Open Street Maps is they do very poor job of maintaining, and updating. It may work for some areas where there aren’t changes, but its terrible at least in lot of national parks which change the trails depending on the season or rotate the areas. Other problem is OSM geocoding is bad. It may work in some but not the places that need updates And sync with gps is an issue.
I mean, the world is a big place. Especially when the task is mapping. It’s hard enough to roll any product out globally, let alone one that literally details the surface of the planet.
Perhaps you could start your own company and do this? You see a need. Jump in there and fill the gap. You could make a fortune.
Perhaps you should be more realistic. As another poster pointed out, the world is a big place and mapping even small parts of it involve a lot of work. Besides, different countries have different rules on what can/cannot be mapped; different regulations, etc.
That’s a tall order this stuff takes time.Perhaps Apple should also focus on the rest of the world. It’s so damn annoying that’s lots of features don’t make it to everyone right from the get go
Alltrails works around the world, and outside of national parks, so not really rivalling....
I made a route for the park around the corner from me and it isn't a national park.I spent a few hours trying this out, and it's not a serious threat to AllTrails until it provides hiking routes outside of the 63 national parks. Or worldwide.
I will say that if you zoom in far enough to see trails or roads, the feature that allows you to plan your own route works fairly well for a first beta.
There is no iPhoneOS, it's iOS and I created a hiking route on my phone.This would be way more useful if it were available on iPhoneOS 18 so we could use it on our phones.
Yes, I didn’t mean to imply that it’s not possible.I made a route for the park around the corner from me and it isn't a national park.
Why does this need to be an iOS 18 thing? Surely out of any app, updating a map should just be anytime and all the time?
I find the Apple approach to updating apps ridiculous. They’re apps, update them throughout the year like Google Maps, Spotify, Facebook and the rest.
I fully move over to it if it doesn't kill my phone like All Trails does on long hikes. I hope to have time to get a hike in this weekend to try it out.Yes, I didn’t mean to imply that it’s not possible.
Apple Maps, as far as I can tell, only has hiking routes already highlighted in blue with all the details for national parks right now. Where something like AllTrails excels is that it has routes for all kinds of places drawn up with details. Obviously, Apple is playing catch up on that feature and I hope they consider using user input like AllTrails so that they can add a LOT more routes in a shorter amount of time.
Not even close. AllTrails has conditions reports, reviews and ratings. Garmin is crazy accurate. This will be a superficial stab at low hanging fruit competitors have on offering but in true Apple fashion it’s wide as a barge and shallow as a thimble. Just look at their drip feed of new fitness conditioning like what Garmin has had for years and does much better. I did notice the health app copied Garmin connect this year. Same reason none of the cycling or tri folks I know ever seriously considered something other than Garmin Suunto or Coros.
For all their talk of how great the App Store is, they sure don't seem to want to use it for themselves. Unless it's a subscription app, of course.
Not at all, I'm just saying that's what is going to happen. I've noticed it because I find myself downloading fewer and fewer apps as the years go by, and removing more and more apps that new iOS updates cover. And ultimately, AI will Sherlock just about everything, even games. People will be able to use AI to generate whatever game they feel like playing on a given day.Not exactly “sherlocking” when this is basically digitizing maps that are available at any national park kiosk. Or should AllTrails have some kind of exclusive access to walking trail mapping?
I wouldn’t call garmin hot garbage, it’s just hot mess. As some one who used garmin/polar for more than two decades it’s just a jumbled up mess.Why doesn’t Google have satellite messaging on Pixel phones? “Either they can’t or they won’t” according to your
Garmin is hot garbage.
Apple is the most valuable international company on the planet .
Thank you for sharing this insightful post. It's a great reminder that while technology can be incredibly useful, it is not a substitute for having a solid background in essential skills, especially when relying too much on it exposes you to risks and imprudence that you wouldn't have faced without it.I was hiking in Yosemite, about 2 or 3 days from the trailhead. There is zero cell service there, even at the trailhead I was by myself.
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Think about it, if you can't read a topo map, the "you are here" dot is as useless as if you drew an "X" on the ground and I told you "You are standing on an "X". You are always "here" no matter where you go and the GPS will always uselessly tell you that you are standing in the place you are standing. Seriously all she saw was a screen filled with usless wiggly lines and a flashing dot. She could also see the direction she needs to walk. [..]
By rest of the world you mean UK. British people do love American things.Perhaps Apple should also focus on the rest of the world. It’s so damn annoying that’s lots of features don’t make it to everyone right from the get go
No I don’t. I’m not even from the UK, you muppet 😂By rest of the world you mean UK. British people do love American things.
I struggle to read maps due to dyscalculia. I grew to love the outdoors in 2016 after frequently visiting Canada (I'm from London UK). I entirely rely on "tech" to make my way through hikes, runs and cycling sessions. I have a main phone (s24 ultra) a backup phone iPhone 12 mini & a Garmin Forerunner 955 with full routeable topo maps. The phones are in extra strong sturdy cases.(let's not talk about what happens if you are 20 miles from the road and you drop your phone in the water and can't read maps and don't own a compass.)