Apple Maps to Directly Display COVID-19 Testing Locations

[Rainshadow]

You didn’t read my post. I said we are in quarantine and no one should be out. Testing while in quarantine is overrated and could cause more unnecessary spread. If you are at home like you’re supposed to be, there is no reason to test unless you have a severe condition for which you need medical attention.

We should be testing when people are out of quarantine.

I’m also on record saying our quarantine implementation is a joke.

I did read it, but I must have misinterpreted it. Because I agree with what you’ve said here. The current quarantine is a joke, we *should be at home, and testing will truly be more important when we start things back up.

Where I would still push back is that testing is still important now. Not for everyone, but anyone who has any kind of symptoms and what would still be essential workers. So that they can quarantine from their own families (not just the public), and provide the ridiculous proof that some insane companies require to miss a day of work - even in this mess.

but yes, we can certainly agree that this quarantine is a joke...

 

[Baymowe335]

I did read it, but I must have misinterpreted it. Because I agree with what you’ve said here. The current quarantine is a joke, we *should be at home, and testing will truly be more important when we start things back up.

Where I would still push back is that testing is still important now. Not for everyone, but anyone who has any kind of symptoms and what would still be essential workers. So that they can quarantine from their own families (not just the public), and provide the ridiculous proof that some insane companies require to miss a day of work - even in this mess.

but yes, we can certainly agree that this quarantine is a joke...

If I were in charge, everyone would be hardcore quarantined for 3-4 weeks and we’d be restarting with hardcore testing.

 

[rtdunham]

Do you think other countries (particularly Asia) are actually testing with any regularity? The numbers out of China are bold face lies. I don't believe anything from South Korea or Japan either. Those governments are not like the US government, projecting death rates that they eventually will have to walk back.

The cases in America are at least 10X what is being reported and likely the same or more worldwide. The fact not everyone is dying is actually good news because at least in America, 100% (or close) of the deaths are reported.

Your superior knowledge is impressive. Except i tend to distrust people who boldly and confidently claim to know more than everyone else.

(EDIT: You back off your most unsubstantiated claims in subsequent posts, so I like the position you took most recently. Still doubt your numbers!)

 

[Baymowe335]

Your superior knowledge is impressive. Except i tend to distrust people who boldly and confidently claim to know more than everyone else.

(EDIT: You back off your most unsubstantiated claims in subsequent posts, so I like the position you took most recently. Still doubt your numbers!)

People have still lost all perspective, like my claims or not. Asia definitely has a different style. Our government literally projected deaths (and they are likely to be overstated).

Testing is hugely important when we restart. In the meantime, stay home.

Like you, I distrust heard mentality and groupthink. If you read most posts, they are literally a repetition of what is said on the news. I'm not saying the news is all wrong, but they have a vested interest in scaring you. Some of the outlandish stuff that has been said and repeated in nothing short of absurd.

We go day by day. We try to maintain perspective while doing our part. We don't need to say more people will die than all wars combined, 200,000,0000 Americans will be infected, and use hyperbole like 30X more deadly than the flu with early data.

We also don't need everyone who is sitting at home to run out and get tested. We need people to stay at home. We need testing when we open things up again.

We also need to move toward reopening the economy or there will be far bigger problems than a virus with a 97-98% survival rate (likely even better than that if we had a more realistic denominator).

 

[Tech198]

This seems the single most important thing Apple has done.

 

[DeepIn2U]

it seems like winning the lottery to be chosen to get tested.

I'm really sincerely sorry your colleague has yet to be tested, that person should be on a priority list given her lung disease condition. Sadly, the filthy rich, get priority and ti's downright disgusting. Laws should be enacted to change this going forward before the year is out!!

THe 1%'ers wont have a populace to gloat over when this is said and done at this rate.

Thi seems all too much like the underlying story plot of the Resident Evil movies/animated films ... bio-weaponizing a virus!

 

[ElectricPotato]

Testing is still somewhat overrated.

As the OP pointed out, it is necessary to reopen the economy. Pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers mean you don't know who to quarantine and if you quarantine everyone the economy is closed.

I too am frustrated there is so little progress, but not surprised. When the person at the top refuses to even admit there is a problem and Republicans obediently agree then progress to a solution will be slow.

 

[JohnWalker]

Apple Maps will soon directly display COVID-19 testing locations alongside information specific to the site.

Apple today launched an online portal for healthcare providers, labs, or other businesses, to register as COVID-19 testing locations. The Apple Maps team will then review the application, and upon approval the location will appear in Apple Maps. Although the process is similar to the Apple Maps Connect portal normally used by businesses to add information to Apple Maps, this new service includes information specific to COVID-19 testing sites.

Testing locations will appear with a red medical glyph icon and a unique "COVID-19 Testing Site" card. Apple Maps will display the place name, associated healthcare provider, contact number and website, as well as information about the type of testing location. Apple is also asking applicants to state whether the testing location will require a doctor's referral or a scheduled appointment.

Apple does not say exactly how long it will be before testing locations will begin to appear in Maps, but assures that it is working quickly to verify and add as many testing locations as possible. The feature appears to be international.

Apple and Google yesterday announced a partnership on opt-in COVID-19 contact tracing technology for iPhone and Android smartphones.

Article Link: Apple Maps to Directly Display COVID-19 Testing Locations

I don't get why people would rush out to get tested unless you were in hospital. Seems like a way spread virus to uninfected people

 

[Baymowe335]

As the OP pointed out, it is necessary to reopen the economy. Pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers mean you don't know who to quarantine and if you quarantine everyone the economy is closed.

I too am frustrated there is so little progress, but not surprised. When the person at the top refuses to even admit there is a problem and Republicans obediently agree then progress to a solution will be slow.

You'd have to read my entire opinion in context. I specifically said testing is important when re-opening. Testing right now is overrated because everyone should be home until it's more under control. To go outside quarantine, you need testing...like an approval to leave process.

Problem is, quarantine in this country is a joke because too many people don't want to listen. This isn't really political. It's more of an American problem.

 

[Rainshadow]

You'd have to read my entire opinion in context. I specifically said testing is important when re-opening. Testing right now is overrated because everyone should be home until it's more under control. To go outside quarantine, you need testing...like an approval to leave process.

Problem is, quarantine in this country is a joke because too many people don't want to listen. This isn't really political. It's more of an American problem.

You keep telling us all to read your post. We have. “Asia” is a huge continent. They don’t all count the same. No one believes China. Check. But other western allies are pretty reliable. And I’ll say it again, multiple stories suggest we haven’t had an accurate count of those dying because of lack of testing. You say the number is lower (I assume because of asymptomatic people not taken into account) but that doesn’t change the number of people dead. That only affects mortality rate. The death numbers are low here just like other places. Those numbers are widely expected to be underrepresented in this country. I don’t believe we are any better counting than Japan or South Korea.

Moreover, you keep suggesting everyone should stay home. And I agreed, but even IF you could get everyone to stay home that wasn’t truly essential, there are tens of millions of people who still have to work. Even a hard shutdown requires emergency personnel, medical, food delivery, gas, utility personnel etc. You keep commenting on how it’s needed “when we go off quarantine”. No, we needed it weeks ago. Not for every citizen to flock to the testing, but at the BEGINNING of the outbreak to effectively quarantine folks in the same way you recommend when we get back to normal. Back from quarantine is back to square one where we were 3-4 weeks ago. Testing would have been great then.

And there were tests (not approved) that could have operated as a stop gap. My wife works in the health industry. This administration has been particularly frustrating for their hospital.

Your simplified view of this is right in its own sense, but you’re just over-simplifying the problem.

 

[Baymowe335]

You keep telling us all to read your post. We have. “Asia” is a huge continent. They don’t all count the same. No one believes China. Check. But other western allies are pretty reliable. And I’ll say it again, multiple stories suggest we haven’t had an accurate count of those dying because of lack of testing. You say the number is lower (I assume because of asymptomatic people not taken into account) but that doesn’t change the number of people dead. That only affects mortality rate. The death numbers are low here just like other places. Those numbers are widely expected to be underrepresented in this country. I don’t believe we are any better counting than Japan or South Korea.

Moreover, you keep suggesting everyone should stay home. And I agreed, but even IF you could get everyone to stay home that wasn’t truly essential, there are tens of millions of people who still have to work. Even a hard shutdown requires emergency personnel, medical, food delivery, gas, utility personnel etc. You keep commenting on how it’s needed “when we go off quarantine”. No, we needed it weeks ago. Not for every citizen to flock to the testing, but at the BEGINNING of the outbreak to effectively quarantine folks in the same way you recommend when we get back to normal. Back from quarantine is back to square one where we were 3-4 weeks ago. Testing would have been great then.

And there were tests (not approved) that could have operated as a stop gap. My wife works in the health industry. This administration has been particularly frustrating for their hospital.

Your simplified view of this is right in its own sense, but you’re just over-simplifying the problem.

I don’t think it’s oversimplification to say you don’t need testing unless you’re a person out of quarantine. The trouble is, testing doesn’t stop with 1 test. You’re only clear until you’re not.

Also, this is a mess, but we have to restart the economy or we will have bigger problems than a virus that probably has a 0.5-2% mortality.

 

[Rainshadow]

I don’t think it’s oversimplification to say you don’t need testing unless you’re a person out of quarantine. The trouble is, testing doesn’t stop with 1 test. You’re only clear until you’re not.

Also, this is a mess, but we have to restart the economy or we will have bigger problems than a virus that probably has a 0.5-2% mortality.

It’s an oversimplification to think everyone CAN stay home. And that you think mortality Rate is more important tHan the number of deaths. Mortality rate will be debated in science for years. The number of dead is how well we responded and we see that now. It’s like you’re not reading our posts.

 

[now i see it]

A person can finally get a test and test negative one day in the afternoon — only to become infected a few hours later when they walk outside.
Testing only validates a person at the moment they got tested. Any time after that all bets are off.

 

[philpalmiero]

With my past experiences with Apple Maps, there's no way I'm trusting it with anything important like finding a testing site. Too many poor experiences.

Apple Maps is very good and has been for quite a while now.

 

[Baymowe335]

It’s an oversimplification to think everyone CAN stay home. And that you think mortality Rate is more important tHan the number of deaths. Mortality rate will be debated in science for years. The number of dead is how well we responded and we see that now. It’s like you’re not reading our posts.

I think the number dead is going to surprise a lot of people, to the low side. If you have any perspective, the number dead is going to be very low.

China implemented the stay at home effectively...which is my only point in saying quarantine has been poor and ineffective. I'm not saying it's realistic here, but it's been an utter joke in America and probably has caused case numbers to be artificially high both from a known and unknown perspective. The fact deaths haven't been much worse likely points to the virus not being as deadly, symptomatic, or contagious (or all 3) as thought. It also might mean quarantine measures are probably less critical than everyone would like to believe.

 

[mistasopz]

Apple Maps is very good and has been for quite a while now.

Then why does it direct me to businesses that don't exist or try to route me through areas that have been closed for months? Maybe in the USA Apple maps is okay, but certainly not where I live. Google maps is consistently good however almost in every country I visit for business.

 

[Brandhouse]

Do you think other countries (particularly Asia) are actually testing with any regularity? The numbers out of China are bold face lies. I don't believe anything from South Korea or Japan either. Those governments are not like the US government, projecting death rates that they eventually will have to walk back.

The cases in America are at least 10X what is being reported and likely the same or more worldwide. The fact not everyone is dying is actually good news because at least in America, 100% (or close) of the deaths are reported.

Testing is still somewhat overrated. We are in quarantine. You should be at home, interacting with no one besides your household. The knowledge that you have COVID-19 wouldn't really change what you should be doing anyway since there is no real treatment.

Unless you have underlying conditions, your process would be stay at home and wait it out. If you're extremely sick and need breathing assistance, you have to go to the hospital which can hopefully take you.

Only people like Bill Gates whose motives I question want everyone tested.

Apple is just trying to do their part in helping people find locations if needed.

Maybe you should look at facts, instead of going off with what reads as a racist taunt. South Korea have the best testing in the world. I can't remember the figures per capita, but Australia leads testing in that and the US is one of the worst at 24 tests per 100,000.
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As the OP pointed out, it is necessary to reopen the economy. Pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers mean you don't know who to quarantine and if you quarantine everyone the economy is closed.

I too am frustrated there is so little progress, but not surprised. When the person at the top refuses to even admit there is a problem and Republicans obediently agree then progress to a solution will be slow.

You can't replace the lives of loved one's lost, but you can restart the economies of the world. Until there's a vaccine, everyone shouldn't be going outside unless it's essential travel.

 

[Baymowe335]

Maybe you should look at facts, instead of going off with what reads as a racist taunt. South Korea have the best testing in the world. I can't remember the figures per capita, but Australia leads testing in that and the US is one of the worst at 24 tests per 100,000.
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You can't replace the lives of loved one's lost, but you can restart the economies of the world. Until there's a vaccine, everyone shouldn't be going outside unless it's essential travel.

I love Japan and South Korea and visited more than 5 times. I would live there.

Fact is, the way their government and people handle these things is dramatically different than ours.

You calling anything I said racist is out of line

 

[Tech198]

It’s an oversimplification to think everyone CAN stay home. And that you think mortality Rate is more important tHan the number of deaths. Mortality rate will be debated in science for years. The number of dead is how well we responded and we see that now. It’s like you’re not reading our posts.

What else are they gonna do ? By getting everyone to say home, your just putting the measure there "just in case" to look out for others...

Personally, i think it sux the inconnent party should be told to do something to reduce infection from other are the real deal, i know i am not sick, but lucky for me we here in WA Australia don't think like that..

But since no one really knows the 'unknown' people then you go for the extreme.

 

[Brandhouse]

I love Japan and South Korea and visited more than 5 times. I would live there.

Fact is, the way their government and people handle these things is dramatically different than ours.

You calling anything I said racist is out of line

Read what I wrote, "... reads as a racist taunt..." You called out that you don't believe anything from the South Korean or Japanese governments, yet you've been there a number of times, so you must surely appreciate how they function as a nation, their whole ethos of respect etc. and respond to events. Many people have replied to your initial post, so maybe look at what you've written, maybe you're being misinterpreted because what you meant hasn't been clear.
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It also might mean quarantine measures are probably less critical than everyone would like to believe.

Are you serious?!
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A person can finally get a test and test negative one day in the afternoon — only to become infected a few hours later when they walk outside.
Testing only validates a person at the moment they got tested. Any time after that all bets are off.

Which is why in Australia, that when you get a test that you have to self isolate for 24 hours until the test results come back.

 

[Baymowe335]

Read what I wrote, "... reads as a racist taunt..." You called out that you don't believe anything from the South Korean or Japanese governments, yet you've been there a number of times, so you must surely appreciate how they function as a nation, their whole ethos of respect etc. and respond to events. Many people have replied to your initial post, so maybe look at what you've written, maybe you're being misinterpreted because what you meant hasn't been clear.
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Are you serious?!
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Which is why in Australia, that when you get a test that you have to self isolate for 24 hours until the test results come back.

Certainly if the undiagnosed cases are in the 10s of millions (who is to say they aren't) the "quarantine" has been at least somewhat ineffective. The argument to continue the quarantine at least partly rests on the reported cases being close to accurate.

American people are entirely different than Asians. It isn't close. That's one of the reasons why we can't implement an effective quarantine along with our political structure and desire for transparency at any cost.

 

[Brandhouse]

Certainly if the undiagnosed cases are in the 10s of millions (who is to say they aren't) the "quarantine" has been at least somewhat ineffective. The argument to continue the quarantine at least partly rests on the reported cases being close to accurate.

American people are entirely different than Asians. It isn't close. That's one of the reasons why we can't implement an effective quarantine along with our political structure and desire for transparency at any cost.

What?! There's no reason for any country to hide cases of COVID-19 infections/deaths (yes, we can expect North Korea to and some others) Transparency? China along with many other countries has been upfront with rates, that how the world is learning to respond.

Do some research, the best example is New Zealand, they locked down their country straightaway and have only recorded one death. So don't write for a minute that quarantine is not effective. It hasn't been effective in the US.

 

[V_Man]

It doesn't matter how other countries are handling testing. It has no impact on solving the problem in the US.



Um, how do you know close to 100% of the deaths are reported? If a death isn't reported, then how do you know it wasn't reported?



Shelter-in-place and quarantine only goes so far. We can't wait it out forever. The economy would eventually collapse, nationally and globally. If we just slowly tried to return to normal, the virus would just cause local outbreaks and epidemics, causing more local lockdowns. We're still not even sure if it's possible for a person to get reinfected.

Stay-at-home orders is the first step in taking control until we have a vaccine. It's our attempt to control the spread at a very broad level. The next step is testing. And there are different types of test that will give us data, more than just determining whether a sick person has COVID-19 or not, such as who has had it, who is asymptomatic, contact tracing, true hot zones, etc. It will help us understand the virus more. So much of what is happening is because there are still so many unknowns about the virus.

Mass testing allows us to move controlling the spread from a wide and broad level (e.g. state, county) to a more local level (e.g. cities and neighborhoods). We may not necessarily need to move to testing every single individual, but we need to move controlling the spread from such a high general level to a more local level. With this data we can control the spread more effectively without national and state level stay at home orders. Quarantining smaller communities is much more effective than quarantining an entire state. This would allow us to slowly move back to a normal way of life and economy. The other option is wait it out, which could take 1-2 years. That would just kill the economy and more people.

Bay just comes here to “help” apple stock. He needs to defend apple to protect his investments. O ya and tell us how rich he is. Lol.
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It’s an oversimplification to think everyone CAN stay home. And that you think mortality Rate is more important tHan the number of deaths. Mortality rate will be debated in science for years. The number of dead is how well we responded and we see that now. It’s like you’re not reading our posts.

Maybe he thinks all essential people should stay home. I mean those hospital employees are spreading it everytime they leave the hospital. Lol

being essential. I’d love a couple of weeks off with pay to watch from the sidelines. Not going to happen.

 

[citysnaps]

With my past experiences with Apple Maps, there's no way I'm trusting it with anything important like finding a testing site. Too many poor experiences.

And every single Apple Maps experience I've encountered (and I use Apple Maps frequently) over the last few years has been excellent with zero issues.

 

[Ed217]

Also, this is a mess, but we have to restart the economy or we will have bigger problems than a virus that probably has a 0.5-2% mortality.

The CFR for Covid-19 is somewhat higher than those figures. CFR is based on case statistics from the past as deaths lag cases by 7-14 days. There is data on the WHO site about this and in various medical journals and how to calculate for an in-progress infection. Raw CFR is about 4% but the calculated values are between 5.5% and 9.5%.