I totally agree. I'm tired of the whiny crybabies that are crying like someone took their pacifier away. Apple, as well as the terms "computer" and "computing" have evolved. Damn near every electronic device today is a "computer" of some sort. This is just Apple continuing their progression towards ultimate simplicity. Who cares if Apple dropped the word from it's name?! Or that it's no longer Mac OS X? It's not necessary. I mean c'mon, whining about a name? Really? I don't care if it's called "Fruit-Company-A-That-Makes-Devices-That-Compute".As long as they keep pumping out easy-to-use, aesthetically pleasing, and (relatively and arguably) affordable devices, I don't give a F if they change their name! When they stop, I'll find something else. I don't care about the stupid, weak-minded, team-based cheerleading . I am strictly about whether or not the end product is to my liking. No more, no less.
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Apple Marketing SVP Phil Schiller Thinks Instagram "Jumped The Shark" After Android Launch?
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I totally agree. I'm tired of the whiny crybabies that are crying like someone took their pacifier away. Apple, as well as the terms "computer" and "computing" have evolved. Damn near every electronic device today is a "computer" of some sort. This is just Apple continuing their progression towards ultimate simplicity. Who cares if Apple dropped the word from it's name?! Or that it's no longer Mac OS X? It's not necessary. I mean c'mon, whining about a name? Really? I don't care if it's called "Fruit-Company-A-That-Makes-Devices-That-Compute".As long as they keep pumping out easy-to-use, aesthetically pleasing, and (relatively and arguably) affordable devices, I don't give a F if they change their name! When they stop, I'll find something else. I don't care about the stupid, weak-minded, team-based cheerleading . I am strictly about whether or not the end product is to my liking. No more, no less.
If your argument is that the majority is the "sheep", then the term actually applies to Android users in this case.
I am so sick of that idiotic term (and mentality). J
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Apple's core has always been the masses. That's why they've consistently tried to make their products easy to use and intuitive.
He has every right to be elitist.
Last year instagram was brilliant and original. A community for sharing great photos.
Now its popular page is usually nothing more than pictures of One Direction and other such garbage. It's AWFUL.
Phil might be upset because instagram's community used to be "pure" Apple.
He could use it as an example of all Apple User's being creative and having fun with their Apple only products. Now with Android users in there, that will probably dominate with their numbers, his usable example is gone and so it has lost its appeal for Phil.
And for any one who doesn't know... This is what Jumping the Shark Means.
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Android Phones are just a copy of the iPhone (smartphone with built in camera and internet access). So it's just makes sense that Instagram would appeal to Android users as well as iPhone users.
He could use it as an example of all Apple User's being creative and having fun with their Apple only products. Now with Android users in there, that will probably dominate with their numbers, his usable example is gone and so it has lost its appeal for Phil.
And for any one who doesn't know... This is what Jumping the Shark Means.
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Oh so thats why it's topped 5 million downloads on Android?
Personally this app is rubbish I don't get why people like it but it seems the Android crowd are just as clueless as the iPhone crowd with this app.
Android Phones are just a copy of the iPhone (smartphone with built in camera and internet access). So it's just makes sense that Instagram would appeal to Android users as well as iPhone users.
I took his comment more as Instagram going to Android was the tipping point for him where it would be just another Flickr-type service where it's user-base would make the service too saturated to be interesting to him. To Phil, Instagram was more interesting as a service when it's user base was limited to people who really liked it. Now it's no longer got that same edge that it once had since its too mainstream and not as exclusive.
Maybe Phil could have used a different comparison, like Wallmart, but I think the term fits since it's more like a fad or a trend that Phil sees as over. It's like anything that is community based, once you open the floodgates, the appeal is over and its no longer unique.
Maybe Phil could have used a different comparison, like Wallmart, but I think the term fits since it's more like a fad or a trend that Phil sees as over. It's like anything that is community based, once you open the floodgates, the appeal is over and its no longer unique.
Well perhaps Phil will push to get NIK filters or something decent, and a content-aware semi-intelligent sharing community incorporated into iPhoto for iOS. Make a more photography-centric sharing community of their own, with some brains in it to keep it from turning into a haystack of crap.
Instagram is pretentious and most people don't use it to its full potential. Instead we just see square shaped images, which is a step backwards.
Yeah but pictures of remote tropical waterfalls are different from pink flamingos in front of double wides.
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Not since Yahoo! paid Mark Cuban 3.2 billion for broadcast.com has someone paid so much for so little.
The good news is this may begin the decline for Facebook. The re-AOLization of the online world by Facebook is horrible and hope it is ended sooner rather than later.
Really?
I think he used the term in the correct context ....
Instagram, in his opinion anyway, lost its appeal by over-reaching with the Android port.
You can read into the "why" behind that several different ways.
1. An Android port means all sorts of phones on the market will be part of the Instagram community, even if they have sub-par cameras in them that take horribly underexposed, grainy or blurry pics. By limiting the app to the iPhone, at least you were enforcing a limitation on the minimum allowed standards for the cameras used. (iPhones only come with internal cameras having certain specs, all of which are generally regarded as producing above average quality photos for a phone camera).
2. An Android port means you've effectively opened up Instagram to every smartphone user on the planet, except for the relatively small number of Blackberry, Windows phone, or Palm Pre users still out there. If it was limited to JUST Android or JUST iPhone, or JUST Blackberry, at least that put some artificial restriction on the size of its community.
3. iPhone users are a more discerning community than people using other smartphones on the market, so they provided more enjoyable Instagram content. (Yeah, this is biased -- but it's still ONE way he *could* have viewed things.)
Whatever the reasoning ... "jumping the shark" means you think a company that was once "riding the shark" with a cutting edge idea or product that was at the top of its game has now let that "shark" get away from them, so they're about to flounder around in the proverbial water.
I think he used the term in the correct context ....
Instagram, in his opinion anyway, lost its appeal by over-reaching with the Android port.
You can read into the "why" behind that several different ways.
1. An Android port means all sorts of phones on the market will be part of the Instagram community, even if they have sub-par cameras in them that take horribly underexposed, grainy or blurry pics. By limiting the app to the iPhone, at least you were enforcing a limitation on the minimum allowed standards for the cameras used. (iPhones only come with internal cameras having certain specs, all of which are generally regarded as producing above average quality photos for a phone camera).
2. An Android port means you've effectively opened up Instagram to every smartphone user on the planet, except for the relatively small number of Blackberry, Windows phone, or Palm Pre users still out there. If it was limited to JUST Android or JUST iPhone, or JUST Blackberry, at least that put some artificial restriction on the size of its community.
3. iPhone users are a more discerning community than people using other smartphones on the market, so they provided more enjoyable Instagram content. (Yeah, this is biased -- but it's still ONE way he *could* have viewed things.)
Whatever the reasoning ... "jumping the shark" means you think a company that was once "riding the shark" with a cutting edge idea or product that was at the top of its game has now let that "shark" get away from them, so they're about to flounder around in the proverbial water.
What a bloated sense of self-entitlement and elitism Schiller must have. Pure arrogance
They have ? You mean a computer is not a device that takes input, processes it and provides output and storage anymore ?
What has it evolved into then ?
I don't remember the Fonz riding the shark, nor letting it get away from him.
I do remember Happy Days staging a huge build-up around a completely pointless & absurdly over-the-top waterskiing stunt, in a misguided effort to attract some quick attention, but which was a let-down followed by the hollow show sucking til it died.
With my N8, I can say the same thing about iPhone's camera. So it's basically pure elitism when you say that Android phones have sub-par cameras or that Instagram would produce worse results on cheaper cameras. Instagram makes pictures look as if they were taken with a cheap film camera, that is, it basically turns modern cheap pictures into vintage cheap pictures. It's not rocket science.
Yes that's what I was pointing out. That it doesn't matter what platform it was on.
I was quoting a person who seemed to suggest that Android users "thought differently" and did not to want to use the app (which of course is complete rubbish). But Winni regularly spews out nonsense so it comes as no surprise.
and it is still for sharing.
jesus christ you probably think youre a photographer because u use a couple of camera filters.
I'm fairly certain all of those things were on smartphones before the iPhone.
soooo arrogant.
Will Apple shut itself down when they end up taking more than 50% of the PC market?
Will Apple shut itself down when they end up taking more than 50% of the PC market?
Schiller has every right to his opinion on Instagram or any app. He has every right to say it has jumped the shark. He has every right to remove it from his phone.
His opinion doesn't mean the app has jumped the shark, because that's a collective decision, and he is only one person.
Let the man have his opinion, and don't let it upset you. Nothing you say will make him love Instagram again, so why would you let his opinion affect you?
His opinion doesn't mean the app has jumped the shark, because that's a collective decision, and he is only one person.
Let the man have his opinion, and don't let it upset you. Nothing you say will make him love Instagram again, so why would you let his opinion affect you?
Its a quote that was created in the tv show Happy Days after the character Fonzarelli or the Fonz , Fonzie, etc.. jumped actual sharks while water skying in the show, this was at a time when the show was dying so the phrase became a synonym of bailing out
, at least in the entertainment industry, and I'm not sure it was used properly by PhillMainstream. Huh. So the app was not mainstream when it was used by all the iPhone users which outnumber android users by something like 10 to 1 here in Toronto? Yesterday i got on a bus and 17 people were using iPhones out of 31. 2 androids, rest blackberries and feature phones. What exactly is mainstream?
Are people also suggesting that there were no stupid pictures on instagram when it was iOS only? So how come i cringe every time i see some food or shoes pictures from some of my co-workers from their iPod touches? Surely that doesn't run android.
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