Apple May Add Reversible Emoji in iOS 12 and macOS 10.14 Next Year

[z970]

Can’t tell if you’re intentionally trying to miss the point or if you’re comprehension levels are just that bad...

What does this have to do with comprehension?

If it's the consortium making all the new emojis and Apple is required to meet to their standards, is the consortium not at fault? Humanity doesn't need to communicate through an essential picture book. We need to use our words.
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The reality is Apple is obsessed with emojis. Just watch any Apple Keynote and you'll see. But the reality is where is an updated Mac mini or Mac Pro? Why does Apple carry a pro-level computer such as the Mac Pro, but has not made a single update to it in over 4 years?

The reality is Apple has become a phone company and they are more concerned with impressing the YouTube generation with emojis than they are with creating amazing computing devices and pro level products.

That's the new reality my friend.

100%

 

[Harry Mlondobozi]

May I have please some upside down emoji ? It should fit with a cross

Blasphemous. But edgy. Very edgy

 

[hlfway2anywhere]

When you get a job, you may realize that Corporations operate on budgets, and different departments operate within budget constraints. Thus, as Apple's software team that incorporates "Emoji's" does little more than incorporate a .gif file into an icon bar; this consumes resources that could be better spent fixing obvious bugs, you know, like the bugs that were fixed with 11.1.0, 11.1.1, 11.1.2 and the Saturday drop of 11.2 to fix the reboot on Dec 2nd issue? One could also argue that the budget given to Product Development could be increased, as we are over 1,000 days since the Mac Mini update, the Mac Pro seems to be abandoned, and the current Mac Mini crop are less powerful than the 2012 design of the same Mac Mini. Or, perhaps you don't know what Non Sequitur means?

Are you implying that Apple can’t just increase resources into other areas AND continue paying the team that handles emoji? That they need to pull those resources and spend them on QA because they don’t have $200 billion in cash reserves, emoji’s need to go?

Please. I don’t disagree they could be less embarrassing about bugs and pro hardware. But to get so triggered over emoji the way people are in this forum is absolutely fascinating.

 

[Solomani]

At this pace, Apple's Division of Emoji will end up dwarfing the Mac Sales division by 2022

 

[Harry Mlondobozi]

Hmmm, lotta old dudes in this thread telling young kids to get off their lawn because they don't like emojis.

I don't use emoji's, but I know I don't get annoyed if the dictionary gets updated every year with new words. Let the kids communicate how they want to communicate. We can stick to our overly long prose and it literally doesn't affect us, there is no phase out procedure for the written language in place.

Ah, finally, an adult amongst us. Amen.

 

[guzhogi]

I guess I just don't really care too much about emojis. Maybe I'm just becoming that cantankerous old guy who yells "Get off my yard!" I find it a little silly how a) unicode keeps putting out more & more emojis and b) that MacRumors makes this front page news. Meh, whatever. I'm just waiting for books & websites to be emoji-only. Or something like "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Shaka, when the walls fell!"*






*High five to those that get the reference.

 

[artfossil]

Humanity doesn't need to communicate through more pictures. We need to speak through words.

YOU need to speak through words. (FIFY)

As a visual artist my most interesting problems are solved visually. I need to communicate visually. I appreciate having visual dimensions in addition to text. Yes, even emojis.

 

[fmalloy]

Cue rant about Emoji when the developers responsible for all the current bugs have nothing to do with the designing of them.

Seems valid to me.

 

[Fzang]

Still searching for the emojis included months ago.

When is the search bar coming again?

I only use the emojis that have keyboard shorthands. Otherwise I fall back to gifs and stickers because they’re searchable.

 

[saudade]

Oh great. I has been waiting for reversibles emojis for a very long time. Very useful
Wow i love they finally made it!!!

 

[fairuz]

Too late, fad is over. People now want Bitcoin buttons on the keyboard.

 

[thasan]

this is getting ridiculous! its already so difficult to find the right one!

 

[qawes]

zomg emojis!!!



mMP? anything?

 

[Analog Kid]

Emoji posts are always my favorites.

I'm just here to watch people rant and rage about Apple maintaining standards compliance...

Please let the middle finger be reversible. Right now I just send two in a row, but they're both the same sided hand so it doesn't look proper (although it could be argued that the gesture itself isn't proper, but that's in another sense of the word.)

I love that you have such a well defined use case in mind.

Will the reverse of point left have a different code point than point right? Will the reverse of point up be point down, or just an other-handed point up? The Unicode consortium has their work cut out for them defining this-- whatever grammar they set out now could affect how we communicate for centuries!


For me, reversibility is nice but I'd also like send/receive variants. Middle finger could benefit, but the big one for me is the "Ok" hand sign-- it just looks wrong to receive an Ok that looks like I'm giving an Ok.

Now that I'm looking at the palette and giving new attention to middle finger, I'm realizing that there's no convention as to whether the emoji is sender-view or receiver-view... Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy... Steve never would have allowed this to happen...

 

[iTurbo]

Emojis are tantamount to ebonics if you ask me. What's next, getting a resume filled with emoji?

 

[Sandstorm]

Cue rant about Emoji when the developers responsible for all the current bugs have nothing to do with the designing of them.

Don't you think crap like "animoji" takes considerable time and effort (including at least some input from top developers/programmers)? At the same time we're getting increasingly unstable, bug ridden sub-par software.

I'm not naive and don't think dropping emojis would suddenly make everything right. But it just irritates. Stuff no longer "just works" and when at the same time you see constant barrage of watch bands, political bs, bs "pipeline" promises, missed deadlines, relentless focus on emojis and similar garbage - many become understandably pissed off.

 

[Seifensieder]

So finally Clip Art is back?

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Don't you think crap like "animoji" takes considerable time and effort (including at least some input from top developers/programmers)? At the same time we're getting increasingly unstable, bug ridden sub-par software.

I'm not naive and don't think dropping emojis would suddenly make everything right. But it just irritates. Stuff no longer "just works" and when at the same time you see constant barrage of watch bands, political bs, bs "pipeline" promises, missed deadlines, relentless focus on emojis and similar garbage - many become understandably pissed off.

BRAVO! Very well said.

 

[ChrisA]

Don't the Chinese already have symbols for everything you can think of? And a billion people already know them. Why not use Chinese?

Seriously this is how wring developed. At first we drew pictures of objects. Then the pictures became standardized characters and then just a few brush strokes to remind us of the picture then to write abut things where we had no pictures we used "sound alike" spelling then we forgot what the pictures meant and remembered only the sounds.

As an example the capital "A" was originally drawn upside down and represented an an animal like an Elk. It had a triangle face and two horns. Try it, turn an "A" upside down and see.

So my theory is the emoji are history repeating itself. In 2017 we have pictures, then later these get standardized then simplified and so on.

These seem to be popular, so why not make some money off other similar ways history can repeat?

• digital clay tablets. You write with a stick on a clay-like kind of plastic. When you send these via email your friend can printed them on a 3D printer and store them in a cave for future reference.
• digital smoke signals. There is a picture of a fire on your phone and you cover and uncover the fire with your hand. You friends will see a picture of a mountain with puffs of smoke raising in the distance when the fire is uncovered.
• Digital drums. this one is easy, tap the phone and it makes a drum sound. The drum pattern sends a message.

We can make this really user friendly by offering automatic conversion, say you don't own a 3D printer but some one sends you a stone tablet. We can automatically convert this to a digital drum message so you can hear it (hands free) while driving.

I think emoji are only the start of things to come. For example there was another system where they would tie knots on a length of rope or cord and then send the coiled up cord as massage. I'm sure this could be done digitally too. And there is always Morse code.

 

[ipedro]

I don't mind emoji; I'm 38 and I use them myself. I think that they're useful to convey actual emotions that might get lost in just text.

But emojis are growing ungainly. There are way too many. Pages upon pages of tiny characters are already hard to find and getting harder with each new iteration. Apple needs to find a better way.

Animoji might have shown a way to do this. Top level characters — a monkey, a unicorn, poop, etc — can be a relatively small set of emoji with each one modifiable either by face recognition or swiping a character to show its different emotions or 3D pressing it to change its colour and accessories to design "job emojis". Objects can also be top level swipable items. Fruits, tech, vehicles, etc.

Most used versions of those characters would still be accessed by a Recents menu and predictive emojis would still suggest predesigned emojis that fit what you're typing.

The status quo can't continue for much longer with each version of iOS adding dozens of new emoji to a crowded field.

 

[iTurbo]

People should not be using emoji. It's pretty ridiculous and a lot of us frown on it to say the least. You will look unprofessional the more you use it. Take warning.

 

[cyanite]

Cue rant about Emoji when the developers responsible for all the current bugs have nothing to do with the designing of them.

Damn, you beat me to it. I was just starting to say "cue..." when I read your comment Instead I can now say: ITT: Rant about how Apple only cares about stupid emoji.
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People should not be using emoji. It's pretty ridiculous and a lot of us frown on it to say the least. You will look unprofessional the more you use it. Take warning.

Yeah yeah.. there are dozens of you.

 

[Recognition]

People should not be using emoji. It's pretty ridiculous and a lot of us frown on it to say the least. You will look unprofessional the more you use it. Take warning.

Whoa! Watch out guys! We’ve got a ‘frowner’ Lol!

 

[cyanite]

Will the reverse of point left have a different code point than point right?

Probably just an EMOJI REVERSE DIRECTION scalar you put after the emoji scalar, like with skin color.

 

[0958400]

Utilized for what exactly? And why?

A cleaner aesthetically pleasing, logical GUI?