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The "regular" M3 SoC will arrive in October using the less expensive 3 nm process. We'll see it on the MacBook Air, iMac and Mac mini models at that time. (Think of the M3 as the M2 SoC but with all-new CPU and GPU cores and up to 24 GB of RAM).
 
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I am a bit disappointed that core counts seem to have stagnated. That is leaving a lot of work to be done by process improvements and architecture changes.

Worst case is that Apple basically shrinks M2, overclocks it a bit, and makes extra profit by cramming more M3 chips for every wafer than it could for M2.
Are you referring to CPU or GPU cores? Sure, more GPU cores is better, since GPU tasks are inherently parallel, and thus more cores means more performance.

But for CPU cores, most applications are still single-threaded. Thus most of us currently have more CPU cores than we can use. The exception would be those who have heavily parallel workloads.
 
Just because this self-marketing genius needs to fill his regular newsletter doesn’t mean that there is a story worth reporting for MacRumors? “An M3 Mac Mini will at some point exist.” What’s the news value in that?
I'm happy to see it. Alright, not the most dramatic news ever, but it wasn't all *that* long ago that getting a new Mac Mini ever again wasn't a sure thing.

Or was it? Oh no. Am I getting old?
 
Just because this self-marketing genius needs to fill his regular newsletter doesn’t mean that there is a story worth reporting for MacRumors? “An M3 Mac Mini will at some point exist.” What’s the news value in that?
IF the story is true (big if...) the numbers are informative:

- cluster sizes remain the same for P and E cores. (There are reasonable arguments that at some point these could change in either direction, eg drop down to 3 cores in a cluster and give two clusters; or grow up to 6 cores in a cluster; either way ramps the baseline to more cores, perhaps starting with 4+6 cores.
It all depends on usage patterns [which Apple knows, but we don't!].
You could even do something like a 3 core mini-cluster shares AMX and L2; and two mini-clusters form a 6-core cluster sharing a single L2 TLB+pagewalkers and LZ page compression/decompression hardware...)

- 10 GPU cores. We all expect the GPU cores to be more capable, not least in having more ray tracing hardware. There are two ways to improve GPU performance: making each GPU core smarter, and providing more cores.
We expect a decent GPU performance bump given that the A15 to A16 GPU bump was minimal (so basically we're expecting two years worth of improvement...).
But Apple is not trying to achieve that improvement with even a slight (eg 11 or 12 core) increase in core count; it will all be in making the GPU cores smarter.
(Which I approve of! There's definitely scope for adding more smarts to the Apple GPU core rather than just simple-minded increasing core numbers and frequency; and more smarts will probably translate into better performance for general GPGPU [including ray tracing and NERF], not just traditional triangle-based graphics.)
 
Apple should kill off the Mac Mini line. The older M model studios are perfect replacement. Why have a M3 mini that Apple will surely limit in order for it not to out shine the Mac Studio line.
That wouldn't be a good move for either Apple or its consumers.

Why force desktop users who only need an M# processor (and don't want an iMac) to overbuy and get an M# Max? It would be the analog of killing off the Air and 13" MBP from the laptop line, leaving the higher-end 14"/16" MBP's the only mobile Mac options.
 
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Apple should kill off the Mac Mini line. The older M model studios are perfect replacement. Why have a M3 mini that Apple will surely limit in order for it not to out shine the Mac Studio line.
Foolish analysis!

Essentially Apple sells you
- mac mini for M, Pro
- mac studio for Max, Ultra (and possibly upcoming Extreme)

It's silly to pay for the costs of the larger Studio enclosure (and all that IO) if you only want a smallish machine with an M or a Pro chip. For an HTPC, for example, mini is perfect in being not just powerful enough, but also physically small enough to tuck away anywhere around the TV or in a drawer or whatever.

What you call "limiting" is what most people call "buying as much as you need and no more"!

You COULD argue that the Pro in the Studio is unnecessary, but I suspect Apple sells a lot of them to people who only want a Pro level of performance, but who do want the extra IO of the Studio.
 
Will M3 finally have support for AV1 decode? It would be nice if Apple implements that first, instead of jumping straight from HEVC to adding VVC support…
 
Oh, I will likely get that one. My raspberry is already showing its age and at this point I think its better to use my Mini M1 as replacement with docker, or just install Asahi on it.
 
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I am a bit disappointed that core counts seem to have stagnated. That is leaving a lot of work to be done by process improvements and architecture changes.

Worst case is that Apple basically shrinks M2, overclocks it a bit, and makes extra profit by cramming more M3 chips for every wafer than it could for M2.
You do realize that we are talking about the Mini, right? Apple's lowest end desktop box. One should expect the Mini to remain Apple's lowest end desktop box. Expect Apple's lowest end desktop box to get a little stronger with annual improvements and hopefully not get any more expensive.

No one should expect a Mini to become a Studio as we evolve to the next chip generation. Where Studio and especially Mac Pro go with M3 are what will be interesting.
 
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Where Studio and especially Mac Pro go with M3 are what will be interesting.
The rumors are strong there will be no M3 Extreme for the MP. Thus it would be nice to see them at least make use of the MP's (and Studio) excellent thermals (plus the fact that they don't run on battery) to clock their CPU's and GPU's faster than those of the mobile devices. Part of it comes down to whether the chips are designed to handle the higher clocks; they may not be.

Also wondering if we'll see hardware RT, LPDDR5x, PCIe 5.0, and/or TB5/USB4v2.
 
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