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This would be a real shame if it happened as anything other than a temporary response to a crisis.

Hopefully Apple are taking a fresh look at their supply chain with a SpaceX lens, and asking themselves if they should be making more of their own components to prevent this kind of thing happening.
 
oy vey, at very least a business must sell its goods for more than production costs, think of economics in thermodynamic system - as long as the energy produced is positive it will continue, when energy is required to continue the system it will cease. the other question is whose greed anyway (mine or theirs)
 
If true, it's odd that Apple released the Neo at this price point. That would imply that memory and other component prices are increasing a lot faster than Apple was expecting just a few weeks ago.
Alternatively, since Apple has reported it, the demand for the Neo is much higher than their forecasts.
 
Alternatively, since Apple has reported it, the demand for the Neo is much higher than their forecasts.

Because it's inexpensive.
If that changes, the "demand" will tank.

People haven't been unaware of Macs in the past, they've been turned off by the pricing, especially if it involves taking a risk on an unfamiliar OS.

I'm in a relationship with exactly this type of person.

She has an iPhone & iPad she loves, but work did buy them both, but runs with her Surface laptop because it has Windows and work runs on all that and macOS mystifies her. Side by side, she sees that my Macs are nice, but it doesn't really penetrate beyond that once the pricing is known.

...but she did ask me about the Neo she saw at Costco for under $600 😉
 
Welp, there goes the reason people wanted a MacBook Neo

The 512GB configuration may be much more popular than the 256GB in terms of sales, so if you can only make so many units due to lack of A18 Pros, it makes sense to devote all remaining production to the more popular model, even if that means a small(er) percentage of the market is "priced out".

If true, it's odd that Apple released the Neo at this price point. That would imply that memory and other component prices are increasing a lot faster than Apple was expecting just a few weeks ago.

Apple would have engineered the neo with the knowledge of what their memory and NAND storage prices were going to be for the initial production runs. The model seems to be more popular than Apple projected and they are exhausting their supply of binned A18 Pro SoCs and they likely would have to pay a significant premium to TSMC to produce new A18 Pros (which then would have to one of the GPU cores disabled).


Apples greed is going to be its downfall… sooner or later.

Like no other PC OEM or component manufacturer has been raising their prices into the mesosphere over the past 12 months. 🙄
 
The lower end MacBook neo is a real draw. For $499 it’s almost a non-brained to try out and potentially make a life long Apple customer.

It would be a shame to axe that model, but with all of the positive press the now has received it probably will continue to sell well.
 
Nonsense.
Tim wouldn’t have even mentioned it if it was simply inventory clear out before a new model, but it’s not

It’s not an “inventory clear-out”. They’re out of stock because they don’t have the chips. When they do restock, it’ll be with the next generation CPUs, which is why it’ll take months.
 
The age of men is over, the age of $700 netbooks made from warehouse leavings has begun.

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That would majorly tick-off the A18Pro Neo purchasers to have their laptop superseded so quickly. Plus, I don't think Apple has the A19Pro stockpiles either (and those chips have 12GB memory, so would be even more expensive to make more of). I could maybe see an A19Pro Neo coming in the Autumn, if there is a MBP refresh as it would be 8-9 months since the Neo launched and the iPhone 17 Pro would be out of production, so there would be limited competing demand for chips.
So if they are out of A18 Pro chips are they just going to kill the product? Or are they just going to string along those prospective buyers for 6 or 7 months? I don't think so. It will have an A19 Pro by WWDC.
 
Bite the cost on the ram hike, and get more users who will sign up for subscriptions - be it iCloud, Apple Music etc.



Now watch them quietly hike the prices of the services to make up for the ram margins.
 
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They shouldn't have released the lower version in the first place because 8GB of RAM with 256GB of storage is useless these days.

Hardly, there are plenty of use cases for such a model and an attractive price point makes it the right machine for those use cases. For example, email, web browsing, letter and small document creation, basic spreadsheets, etc. do not need 16gb and 512GB of storage.

Because it's inexpensive.
If that changes, the "demand" will tank.

It will be interesting to see what happens, part of the equation will be what the mix of the 2 models sales were, which helps gauge the impact of dropping the lower priced model.

People haven't been unaware of Macs in the past, they've been turned off by the pricing, especially if it involves taking a risk on an unfamiliar OS.

Price and change are two big barriers to wider adoption, the Neo helps address the former but the later is still there.
I'm in a relationship with exactly this type of person.

She has an iPhone & iPad she loves, but work did buy them both, but runs with her Surface laptop because it has Windows and work runs on all that and macOS mystifies her. Side by side, she sees that my Macs are nice, but it doesn't really penetrate beyond that once the pricing is known.

Been there, have the t-shirt.
 
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Wow, what a nice problem to have. Give the executive responsible for the Neo a promotion. Oh they already did.

Anyhow, I was reading that price rises across the mid range pc laptop sector are imminent, due to memory and fab capacity shortages (because of AI data centres).

So I’d imagine that a starting price of $699 is likely going to remain very competitive in this new world.
 
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They shouldn't have released the lower version in the first place because 8GB of RAM with 256GB of storage is useless these days.
Not if you’re buying this for education or business where you don't necessarily want users to be able to register a finger print and where you’re not storing loads of data or apps locally.
 
Apple will likely release an A19 Pro version of the Neo soon. The Mac Mini models are expected to be out of stock until the M5 upgrades arrive. Mac Studio is holding out the next ultra chip and probably the M6 Max. If it were going to get an M5 Max, it probably would have by now. RAM prices play a role in this, but for the mini and studio, it’s more likely due to high demand depleting inventories ahead of an anticipated refresh, long after production had ended for their components.
I wonder if Apple will go from A18 Pro to A19 Pro … or to the A19.

A19 is faster than A18 Pro but keeps memory at 8gb.
 
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