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iOS has supported USB devices from the very beginning. If you really want to you can plug in a USB keyboard to your iPhone (using the camera connectivity kit)
Support for USB devices has been extremely limited.

I think that the inclusion of USB 3.0 support on the iPad Pro is the 3rd sign of the Apocalyse... If I recall correctly, it is in 2nd Hesitations chapter 2.
 
What are you doing with your cables? I've still got my original lightning cable on the go that came with my iPhone 5, I've used it with every iPhone and iPad since then and it's still going strong. The problem is people mistreat them and pull the wire to remove the cable from their iOS device. I always pull on the hard plastic end which is the correct way to do it and makes the cable last for years.

Car? Next to bed? nothing that would cause the fraying people have had. These forums are littered with it.

I ended up buying 3rd party cables that are much stronger than the Apple ones.
 
If anything, a USB 3.1 port with neat reversible plugs (Type C cable) would make more sense than a simple, older USB 3.0 port:

Users are waiting for USB 3.1 because of its ability to shuffle data between host devices and peripherals at speeds of up to 10Gbps (bits per second), which is two times that of the existing USB 3.0 protocol. USB 3.1 is also known for its user-friendly Type C cable, which looks the same on both ends so users don’t have to worry about which way to plug.

USB 3.1 will eventually be in TVs, monitors and other peripherals. Many existing protocols like MHL and DisplayPort will piggyback on USB, which will enable video playback from mobile devices and PCs on large-screen displays.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2890912/usb-31-flash-drives-dont-expect-them-anytime-soon.html

But I will have to see the USB port in a shipping iPad before I believe it.

This looks like a rumor gone wild - but if it's actually true, I bet it will be a USB 3.1 port, not 3.0
 
"The company has also been considering adding ports to connect to a keyboard and mouse, the people said.”

That is literally the dumbest statement anyone in a world where wireless mice and keyboards have been the norm for more than a decade have made.


BlueTooth and wifi is old tech, need to start using new tech like cords and cables. And give us a 3.5" floppy drive! Come on! Screw wireless charging. We don't need no wireless charging.

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http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Micro-Lightning-Adapter-Certified/dp/B00M4QANB4/

Problem solved.

Actually I LOVE, LOVE THIS THING!!! It has no cable to fray and I can use the many little dime a dozen USB cables I have laying around.

Also, the battery packs that come with an incorporated usb cable... Well this little gadget goes great with it!
 
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If anything, a USB 3.1 port with neat reversible plugs (Type C cable) would make more sense than a simple, older USB 3.0 port

I would agree with this. IF (big if) Apple were to add USB, it would have to be 3.1. My question/thought though, would Apple really add a usb port and have the iPad Pro be just iOS? I feel like there would have to be some sort of OSX/iOS hybrid, or iOS 9 is going to get a serious revamp, although the latest speculation on iOS 9 was that it was supposed to have a focus on stability. I feel like this iPad Pro is going to have to do something different software wise to take advantage of its larger screen. But then again, people said the same thing about the iPad when it first came out, so who knows.

Personally, I know that I would be interested in the iPad Pro, but probably only if it had a nice keyboard/mouse interface so I could effectively type on it. I've used a wireless keyboard on it in the past but using my finger as a mouse was super annoying.
 
There is no real benefit for Apple to make the move from Lightning to USB Type-C on the devices itself. It does not offer anything the Lightning does not already support other than it being the new "universal standard" in the market in the next few years.
If usb2.0 is not bottleneck now, it will be on next model. Checking reported speeds from here https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1820173/, it might already be the bottleneck. Nevertheless Apple could choose faster flash and faster port. Making a single full backup from a iDevice is not that state-of-the-art what the price tag would hint.

Anyway Apple has some hard decisions to make with their favorite ports, that are not so popular in the industry. My guess is that when every other gadget on the planet has usb3.1typeC and all connects to each other for fast data transfer, Apple is still using usb2... Otherwise it would be hard to explain why use TB, when there is as fast connection next to it (usb3.1) with fraction of the price?

Also, that could be just a good thing for usability. Maybe Apple will bring wireless charging to iDevices faster (like still within this decade), when there's no reason to use cord for slow data transfer.
For Macs I'm thinking about moving to iMac 5K only—but even then I'm hoping for a 30-32" version of that.
I'd like to have a headless mac for supporting 5k, so I could choose the size of display as needed. So, can I have it? Yes you can in 2016, but it will cost 5k! Mini will support it in maybe 2018? And what's used outside of macs then, well 8k... I bet there won't be any other new computer model released in 2016 that doesn't have dp1.3 or hdmi2.0 than the macs. Which are great for visual work... Somebody buy that new 50Mpx Canon to Tim Cook!
I called this early last year when the rumors were first starting about the iPad Pro. Apple could let developers use apps and extensions to handle USB devices that are plugged in, such as a scanner or whatever. Doubt they will open it up for use by a mouse.
Apple has already loosened their policy. Check out the news about AirDisplay and DisplayDuet.
 
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every lightening cable barely lasts 1 year

Every cable? Exaggerate much?

Actually, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant every one of yours. If every one of your Apple cables has failed, you need to stop buying them and get more durable ones such as Amazon Basics or Monoprice.

Personally, I haven't had one fail yet, Apple or not. This includes even my retractable lightning cable which, due to its nature, gets a ton of wear and tear.
 
ya, "peripherals" as in "limited to what u can do." with the data. :apple:

I may as well wash my hands of this whole idea. :/ Its a big let down.
 
I could see a more robust connector for the purpose of allowing it to be used as an additional display to a computer. Why? Well, if it does get a stylus, some people may want to treat it like a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid. That is, they'd like to use it as an iPad on the go, but use it as a display AND drawing surface with desktop-class software.

I don't think Apple would do that unless there were other reasons for a port like this, though, and I don't even know if USB 3.1 would make sense for this purpose.

The thing to remember is that the "Pro" moniker gives Apple leeway to add some features it wouldn't normally apply to their consumer products. In other words, if Apple isn't going to tailor it more specifically to photographers/videographers/editors/artists/enterprise uses, I'm don't know it would be pro and not something more focused no the size of the screen. There's no way the big feature is that it will be even better for media _consumption_ only. :/
 
What is the likelyhood that Apple would give hard drive access to iOS like Android does, to the file system... or would that only be possible via third party apps ?

For example. iCloud drive via an external drive access.
 
Tablet, laptop, ultrabook ... All more or less the same apart from the OS.

Why not be able to something serious allways and not only waiting to get home?

An intel I5 cpu is an intel I5 cpu nomatter if it is in a tablet or ultrabook

I want the what windows users a served but just an apple device instead.. Not a bloated tablet.

Give me a full mac OS tablet with option of running Ios apps emulated (or like windows 8,1 just better and apple)

A 12" ipad for me is a Lamborgini put on trainrails.

Imagine taking your full Mac OS tablet out of dock at home (where wireless connected to mechanical keyboard of your own choice) slap on the screen protection cover with buildin keyboard (like the surface)
Using the full OS tablet as tablet on train on the way to work (full laptop/ultrabook on trains and busses etc. suck.) then connect to keyboard at work.
There is plenty of keyboards everywhere in the world so be forced to drag one with you?

Oh... As owner of sdcard and usb connection kit for ipad i can say ... its a disaster. Apple show no interrest in letting people connect anything via usb in fear of not selling overpriced memory on the ipad itself or the all or nothing plans on icloud.

The ipad is a damn sturdy device with no signs of planned obsolessence ...that is where the only 1 gig of ram comes in to the picture.

Just buy the 11" MBA. It's not much heavier than an iPad (1.08kg v 662g,
about the same as an iPad plus keyboard), and it has everything you ask for,
plus much better screen protection, connectivity etc. Having a physical keyboard
is much better for many real tasks. It's also small enough to be easily used on
public transport. Mine is my goto device for "real work" on the move.

To me, a 12-13" iSurface doesn't offer many advantages!
 
Calm down, Apple will release it when it's ready. If you want a rushed product go see Samsung

Its not a question of "release when it's ready" it's a question of making the investors the most money.

They could easily have sold the mba last year with the retina screen but that would make production cost higher and they cant really raise the price because of their product line.
So in order to keep production cost low and pleasing investors the consumer is paying the price.

Im starting to get tired of talks ending up with samsung vs. apple and im not part of that.. I will buy what ever I please.
 
What was your dream? How has it changed in a year? We still don't know what the Apple Watch fully does, or how well it will do it. So no point deciding yet.

The iPhone 6 and Plus are excellent, I don't think anyone can deny that.

And the 12" iPad is nothing but rumours. We don't know a thing about it except "anonymous sources". It might just be an even bigger iPad, it might be the hybrid you're wishing for, it might not even exist.



Just because there is freemium content doesn't mean the things you like are not there. What a strange thing to complain about. "destroyed", ha not t all, all the apps I like still work fine even with freemium content alongside it (some of which I like too).

And why do you care so much about the number of icons? Power users most likely use Spotlight, it's a lot faster for launching apps and means you don't need to remember where things are. For casual users it’s a great simple method of showing apps. And again - you don't know anything for certain about the rumoured iPad, so no point getting upset about it.

And there are no real news apps? That's weird, I use a few.



If you heard that rumour you must have heard the rumour about the 12" Retina version too? Not sure what a Macpad is? But all rumoured Airs have trackpads.




Why would they release things that aren't ready? Makes no sense. Obviously these devices aren't ready, no point rushing things for no reason. If they were ready they'd release them because no doubt they'd make qa lot of money from them.



You are allowed to buy these competing "gorgeous" tablets. Nobody is forcing you to buy just from 1 company.

I haven't seen anyone mention an extra row of icons, no solid rumours until you mentioned it. So no need for the alarm. Wait and see, if the new device doesn't fit your needs, buy something else. Or talk with your wallet and buy something else anyway.




I own a NUC too, great little device. But it's nothing special, it's a small computer at a decent price. And I prefer the look and build quality of the Mac mini (as a living room based HTPC/regular machine). I think I'll be switching back when it comes to upgrade.

Also earlier you said:

"Honestly now the idea of 12" ipad is not a "wow" idea anymore but more like "well why not" and i would propably go for a 12" if i decide to replace my ipad 4."

So you either own an iPad or you don't.



What on earth is "apple land"? Never limit yourself to one company, especially if you are unhappy (like you appear to be). Buy what fits your need, unless you own lots of Apple shares it doesn't matter which company you buy from, just buy what works for your needs. I own hardware from all different companies, I use services from lots of providers. My stuff all works together just fine. Why would I limit myself to just Apple?

Overall it sounds like you've gotten all worked up about rumours that are quite often wrong anyway.

Regarding the watch I have decided allready from what I have seen... Been wearing watch all my life and do not need to know more about apple watch than allready shown ... Im buying one and the batterylife does not scare me.

Regarding the roumor of 12" ipad this is macrumors.com is it not?

My freemium remark was because (not only ios app store) freemium is destroying the games as we know it (games now make more money than movies) the backbone of many new games and apps is the money making (not that it was not before) the entire storyline of many games are now designed within app purchase as skeleton. So sad. (Even playstation and xbox one added in app purchase)
Regarding the icons you must know that bigger screen on ios have meant more icon rows last many times?.. Im saying that the 12" ipad will fit more icons on screen but it is not enough (atleast for me) to buy a 12" ipad anymore.
If the ios app store was new and exciting maybe ...but now its getting old and the wow factor apps are far between each other....Decent games also.

"New" apps not "news" apps... I dont use news apps myself.

"Macpad" is just a word for a macbook pro or macbook air tablet.

Apart from the watch (so there is talk about) the drawings and design for mac book air retina was propably finished in 2013. ... Who says it's not ready?

Buying other tablets my own choice? Yes ofcourse it is but if i wanted a full apple os tablet i do not have a choice but to wait until apple makes one.. That means they have to milk the moneycow further on 1400x900 MBA and MBA retina first.. And maybe redesign the full apple OS or what ever.

What does having an ipad or not having to do with anything?

I too prefeer the look of the mac mini but no 4k 60hz is a major letdown.

Never limit yourself to one company? I do not...im all over:) but To OCD me its like a puzzle I want finish and not finishing by putting puzzle pieces from other puzzles in to finish. (Mac mini server/htpc, a macbook pro tablet, an iphone and the watch) then i do not need anymore ....other than an android and windows device to play with on the side.

Now I have to wait to finish that puzzle because no 4k on mac mini and 12" ipad (rumor) and retina MBA (rumor and maybe only 1400x900)... Its going way to slow compared to other OS (and dont give me "not ready" because not true)

Yes I get worked up on rumors (and maybe even get off on them also) that is why I read macRumors.com man!
 
Just buy the 11" MBA. It's not much heavier than an iPad (1.08kg v 662g,
about the same as an iPad plus keyboard), and it has everything you ask for,
plus much better screen protection, connectivity etc. Having a physical keyboard
is much better for many real tasks. It's also small enough to be easily used on
public transport. Mine is my goto device for "real work" on the move.

To me, a 12-13" iSurface doesn't offer many advantages!

11" screen + about 11" keyboard equals to big for me
 
I don't think Apple would do that unless there were other reasons for a port like this, though, and I don't even know if USB 3.1 would make sense for this purpose.
Let me save you from typing wikipedia's URL or making a single google search:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_3.1
"The modes are configured using VDMs through the configuration channel. As of December 2014, Alt Mode implementations include DisplayPort 1.3 [34] and MHL 3.0;[33][35] other serial protocols like PCI Express and Base-T Ethernet are possible."
Apple will not take a step backwards.
I can't see why stepping from proprietary connection to more advanced AND industry standard is a step backwards. From the point of view of the stock holder?
The iPhone 6 and Plus are excellent, I don't think anyone can deny that.
Yep, I'm only missing expandable memory (µSD slot), wireless charging, better water resistance, better protection when you drop it and more matte screen. It's also sad that Apple needs to hide simple numbers about battery health and the whole file system.

But no worries, Apple will offer all these, not when they can, but when they have to for not to miss popularity. Macs are pretty much not competing with anything, so Apple can take as many years as they want to, to introduce new things to all models (like retina or usb3, etc.).
But ipad is an interesting product class, since Apple is loosing their cut in tablets. Apple's success in operating systems and phones pretty much shows how bad their competitors are.
 
Tough call here. The idea of a USB on an iPad does sound intriguing but as someone else mentions, that'll require some changes to iOS and how it would handle such things. It doesn't seem very "Apple like" to do this though. It violates the walled garden system.

Also, as more features and stuff get added to this ipad pro, doesn't that end up making it more like an MBA then? I dunno. Let's see how this goes. I'm not sure they want it to be too much like a laptop if it's really intended to be a tablet.
 
Its not a question of "release when it's ready" it's a question of making the investors the most money.

They could easily have sold the mba last year with the retina screen but that would make production cost higher and they cant really raise the price because of their product line.
So in order to keep production cost low and pleasing investors the consumer is paying the price.

And this shows how much you know.
 
And this shows how much you know.

Well thank you:) im no expert but profit % on airs are supposed to be almost dubble in some cases of the normal profit % at apple and air sell really well.

The graphicscard could have run 1080p on 11" that is allmost retina? (Graphics specified to run max. 2500x...) And 13" could give more battery space to run something like that? All that tech was there in 2014 when dell, lenovo and others used it in their ultrabooks at same prices... Actually I belive asus allready made 1080p 11" ultrabooks same price as air in 2013
 
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Yep, I'm only missing expandable memory (µSD slot), wireless charging, better water resistance, better protection when you drop it and more matte screen. It's also sad that Apple needs to hide simple numbers about battery health and the whole file system.

- Expandable storage: Apple is probably never going to offer this. FTP, Cloud, whatever is so easy (I run my own little HP MicroServer so never worry about mobile storage). If you need SD - and yes there are users that do - then iPhone isn't for you.
- Wireless charging: agree, can't wait for true wireless charging. But as far as I know nobody has a decent mass market solution yet. Just the "charging mats". I hope when Apple release this we don't have to place devices in specific mats. Just anywhere within x metres of the source. We'll see.
- Water resistance: meh, I'll take it if it doesn't add bulk and silly flaps over ports. Annoying on the Sony Z series or S5. I've had iPhones for 7 years and so far no water damage. It's a nice feature but I'll wait for a good implementation.
- Better protection - always nice. But it's a £600 device. It's never going to be completely bullet proof. And with the thinness now cases don't hamper the experience like the early bulky version.
- matte screen - Not for me, I'll take the occasional reflections and glossy. What I would like is better in sun visibility, but that can be fixed without a matte screen.
- Battery numbers? What do they hide - first I've heard of this. But I don't really have any battery issues on the 6.
- File system: This is another unlikely addition - this is a design choice.

But no worries, Apple will offer all these, not when they can, but when they have to for not to miss popularity.

Nope, some of your dream list is never going to happen because to a good chunk of users they are no needed (e.g. file system).

You sound just like the guys who said Apple will add Flash on their mobile products. It wasn't added as it has no place on touch devices. Nothing to do with "missing popularity".

Macs are pretty much not competing with anything, so Apple can take as many years as they want to, to introduce new things to all models (like retina or usb3, etc.).
But ipad is an interesting product class, since Apple is loosing their cut in tablets. Apple's success in operating systems and phones pretty much shows how bad their competitors are.

So Macs compete with nothing?
iPads do compete with something?

Interesting view of the tech world. Ha.
 
Well, adopting usb3.1typeC didn't take so long...
Although it'll have only 3.0 speed for now.
But the signal is clear; thunderbolt and lightning is going away.
Funny thing, that new adapter for getting hdmi out of typeC costs 10 bucks more than the whole :apple:tv...
- Expandable storage: Apple is probably never going to offer this. FTP, Cloud, whatever is so easy (I run my own little HP MicroServer so never worry about mobile storage). If you need SD - and yes there are users that do - then iPhone isn't for you.
There is a lot of demand for expanding iOS devices storage. That why there's a tons of different devices to handle this: cases with additional memory, sticks with different methods to connect, wireless portable storage and of course many cloud services. All these are just more complicated to use than if the iOS device itself had expandable storage. This might be even the single most hindrance in iOS using experience:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/iphone-storage-data-market-share-2014-12
If you haven't had to empty your iOS device every week when it's getting old, good for you. Maybe this is most effective way for Apple to get people to buy new device. Inserting µSD to iOS device would be as simple as inserting a sim card and every iphone user have managed to accomplish that.
And when you can't predict how much storage you'd need in 2 years to the future, you'll have to buy bigger storage you might not even need. Another way for Apple to get more profits.
- Wireless charging: agree, can't wait for true wireless charging. But as far as I know nobody has a decent mass market solution yet. Just the "charging mats". I hope when Apple release this we don't have to place devices in specific mats. Just anywhere within x metres of the source. We'll see.
Charging mats would be absolutely good enough. You'd just keep the device on the mat when you don't use it. No plugging cords ever.
- matte screen - Not for me, I'll take the occasional reflections and glossy. What I would like is better in sun visibility, but that can be fixed without a matte screen.
Fixing visibility in sun would be a lot easier with real matte screen. Colors would look washed out, but the screen would still be more usable than now.
- Battery numbers? What do they hide - first I've heard of this. But I don't really have any battery issues on the 6.
Ever checked your macbooks battery's health? You simply see how many cycles are used, the original capacity, current max capacity and present capacity. Precise numbers. I can't think any other reason for hiding this info, than trying to avoid customers that would complain their battery wearing down just after year or two.
So Macs compete with nothing?
iPads do compete with something?
If you want a computer with commercial grade software and not Windows, there's no other alternative in general than a mac. This is actually pretty amazing that there's no competitors using same idea than macs; *nix like OS with proprietary GUI on top of it with focus on usability to users with mediocre computer skills.

Ipads are only product in Apple's main product lines that are loosing its market share. So I'd guess that Apple will focus on that in the future. Ipad's size also makes it much more easier to include more ports and card readers etc, than for example iphone. And iphone is selling so good, that Apple doesn't need to add new features quickly to it for a long time.
 
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