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just sucks reading this news while your new iPhone6 is being delivered this week :) haha
 
Please no more megapixels, can't use all the ones I have now. Also no lens gimmicks, just give me full manual control, that would be awesome.

You have manual control, iOS8 unlocked it.

There are a number of apps, Camera+ for example, full control of shutterspeed, focus, exposure and iso.
 
You have manual control, iOS8 unlocked it.

There are a number of apps, Camera+ for example, full control of shutterspeed, focus, exposure and iso.

Color me old school - but I'm not a fan of a touch interface for all those controls. I don't like DSLRs or video cameras that have a touch interface too. Much prefer knobs, dials and buttons.
 
Color me old school - but I'm not a fan of a touch interface for all those controls. I don't like DSLRs or video cameras that have a touch interface too. Much prefer knobs, dials and buttons.

Me either. For my cell phone, I don't care, but for my DSLR, I want dials and all that.
 
Queue the "I dont want more MP, I want IQ". posts.

Queue "ugh, we need more storage capacity then" posts.

Both true, though. What would a normal human being want with all those megapixels, and where would they store them?
 
hummm 3D perhaps ;)

Not a chance! Lenses are too close together for 3D (which requires 3" separation), plus 3D still isn't popular. Like, how many 3D TVs do you still see advertised? It seems like they retry 3D every 15 years or so (since the 40's House of Wax), it catches on for a year or two, then dies again.
 
Color me old school - but I'm not a fan of a touch interface for all those controls. I don't like DSLRs or video cameras that have a touch interface too. Much prefer knobs, dials and buttons.
You want Apple to add a slew of archaic dials, knobs, and buttons to the iPhone. LMAO!

Unsure if being goofy or troll.
 
You want Apple to add a slew of archaic dials, knobs, and buttons to the iPhone. LMAO!

Unsure if being goofy or troll.

No. You misunderstood me completely.

You stated that via apps, you can have full control over the iPhone's camera. My point is - I don't use my camera phone to make tons of adjustments. I pull out my camera and take pictures quickly. Sometimes I tweak a setting or two. But if I am going to take serious pictures where I want control over the settings, I don't use my phone because I don't like the interface and find it quite cumbersome to start adjusting everything.
 
No. You misunderstood me completely.

You stated that via apps, you can have full control over the iPhone's camera. My point is - I don't use my camera phone to make tons of adjustments. I pull out my camera and take pictures quickly. Sometimes I tweak a setting or two. But if I am going to take serious pictures where I want control over the settings, I don't use my phone because I don't like the interface and find it quite cumbersome to start adjusting everything.

As easy as camera apps are, adjustments still take time. Agree. It can be annoying.
 
The S model is always the one with camera upgrades. But maybe they'll just skip to iPhone 7.

I wonder if it's a 3D camera to go with a 3D screen... probably not.

Don't expect that. The save a lot by keeping the same manufacturing process for two years with the same templates and materials.
 
I personally would like an Image Sensor close to the level of a DSLR, 10+mp with improved IQ, HDR, Aperture, etc. Would also love the options to shoot in a Low, Med, High level of JPG quality and un/compressed files too.
It's interesting how 'HDR' has gone from being a style of photography to being a 'feature'.

You acheive an HDR image by bracketing a shot and then combining the images to obtain the desired blend of bright and dark detail.
 
Queue the "I dont want more MP, I want IQ". posts.

Queue "ugh, we need more storage capacity then" posts.

Hm...

I think 8MP is plenty "big" enough. Just keep working to improve the quality of photo. Taking 21 MP photos with your phone...what good does that do? The vast majority of people just post pics to facebook or twitter anyways. Who needs 13, 21, or 40 MP photos. But we all want better quality photos.

Was reading the very first post of the thread really that much trouble?
 
You want Apple to add a slew of archaic dials, knobs, and buttons to the iPhone. LMAO!

Unsure if being goofy or troll.

You need to be able to adjust on the fly, change focal points, metering mode, aperture etc... I can do all that on my DSLR in an instant because it's got a thoughtfully laid out set of knobs, dials and buttons and the settings are finite, i click on a dial = 1 increment of whatever setting. A slider on a touch screen is not precise enough.

Slight tangent, a few years ago I got to take a specced out Mercedes S500 for a drive and one of my lasting memories was the rotary control dial thing on the center console. It had really nice weight and motion with distinct 'clicks' as you scrolled through the options. What really stood out for me was the fact that it's range of movement changed with the options on the screen, if there were 3 options you got 3 clicks before you hit a nice firm resistance to tell you you'd reached the end of the menu. Move to a screen with 5 options and suddenly the dial has 5 clicks of motion before hitting the end stop.

Moral of the story, touch screens aren't the be all and end all of human computer interfaces which is why Apple have the Digital Crown on the Apple Watch!
 
You need to be able to adjust on the fly, change focal points, metering mode, aperture etc... I can do all that on my DSLR in an instant because it's got a thoughtfully laid out set of knobs, dials and buttons and the settings are finite, i click on a dial = 1 increment of whatever setting. A slider on a touch screen is not precise enough.

Slight tangent, a few years ago I got to take a specced out Mercedes S500 for a drive and one of my lasting memories was the rotary control dial thing on the center console. It had really nice weight and motion with distinct 'clicks' as you scrolled through the options. What really stood out for me was the fact that it's range of movement changed with the options on the screen, if there were 3 options you got 3 clicks before you hit a nice firm resistance to tell you you'd reached the end of the menu. Move to a screen with 5 options and suddenly the dial has 5 clicks of motion before hitting the end stop.

Moral of the story, touch screens aren't the be all and end all of human computer interfaces which is why Apple have the Digital Crown on the Apple Watch!

The digital crown with no clicks. Why do you like that? From this post you seem to want clicky knobs.
 
It's simple: One protruding camera wobbles on a desk. But two protruding cameras opposite of each other fixes the wobble! ;)

Double protrusion, that's disgusting :mad:

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I want 13 mp sensor (4128x3096) with 1.6 micron pixels and OIS on both models.

- At 4128x3096 it would be possibly shooting 4k (3840x2160) video with cinematic video stabilization :D

- With 1.6 micron pixels (13,7% more light), low light photography gets much better :)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR,
With the same sensor size as a sensor needed for 13mp 4128x3096 at 1.6 micron, we could get an 8mp 3264x2448 sensor MASSIVE 2.0 micron pixels, THIS IS 77% MORE LIGHT INTO THE SENSOR!!!!
 
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So who says cameras are governed my physics? Yes, DSLRs will have the advantage of good Japanese or German glass. But camera phones have the enormous advantage of having an app, a powerful processor and a graphics processor on board, plus signal processing chops too. Soon enough, pro cameras will have to evolve as well to match the tricks of smartphones.

I first got a single lens reflex when I was 14. It's been sitting in my closet for a long time. It's a relic.

"Who says cameras are governed by physics?" = pure genius. It's fun when people "educated" by reading marketing copy and consumer product blogs try to talk about facts. Please tell us more about how your phone is better than that old film camera in your closet.

Care to state which laws of physics you are referring to? Physics wise there surely is no reason as to why a small lens cannot have as good optic quality? (Not withstanding that a larger lens allows a larger sensor which allows larger pixels and more light gathering ability.

Why "not withstanding that a larger lens allows a larger sensor"? That's an intrinsic part of the tradeoff you get by putting a camera into a tiny device, and it directly impacts image quality. And yes, it's governed by physics. You can't just miniaturize an SLR lens and sensor and get the same performance because you have to deal with the wavelength of the spectrum you're trying to capture (physics). You can cram as many photoreceptors as you want onto a tiny sensor, but as they get smaller, the wavelength of the light becomes a factor and adjacent pixels are going to be "seeing" the same thing, negating the point of having extra pixels.

So how about putting in a larger sensor? Go ahead, but now you're going to need a physically larger lens to gather enough light to expose it. Oops, your slim phone just got a lot of glass added to it and sucks to put in your pocket. Let's also remember that a tiny lens is -- by it's very definition -- not capable of large apertures, which because of the way light works (again, physics) means less depth of field. A lot of photographers would count that as part of "optic quality".

Let's be clear: smartphone cameras are capable of taking very high quality photos, and they're getting better all the time. And I guess adding a second lens and some very complicated processing could be a way to milk even more out of this kind of setup. But they're good at taking ONE KIND of high quality photo: a photo with a pretty small aperture at a fixed focal length. So if you want to limit your discussion of "quality" to that kind of photo? Yeah, go for it, but a lot of photographers want and need more than that.
 
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I don't think you can invent something ten years after it was invented, but hey, with Apple I believe anything.

Of course you didn't know, because an invention only happens with purpose of design, not mere existence.

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They really don't. It only works on stills on the 6+ doesn't it? I take pictures of my friends. If the shutter is low enough to be blurry without IS then it's not going to benefit me with IS anyway!

That only matters in action sequences, and most people don't take action shots on their phones. They mostly take posed photos in low-light.

Also, the OIS also operates on movies. There are several online videos comparing OIS between 6 and 6+. Check em out.
 
If your going to add a camera with 4k capabilities your going to need a display to go with it.
 
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