Apple May Launch Augmented Reality Headset With Custom 'rOS' Operating System by 2020

[Music Ambulance]

Wearing stuff on the face hmmm - If anyone could do it, it would be Apple but I'm highly skeptical.

I’m not a fan of apples wearable industrial design as yet—I’m including the Watch and AirPods there. They look like gadgets that hang off your body instead of objects made for the body. The closest they’ve gotten to that is actually the wrist bands for the watches.
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I like the idea of using this when traveling abroad, but I’m most excited to see what augmented reality can do on a windshield in a vehicle.

Be careful where you travel then, rich tourist

 

[entropys]

I don't SEE it... seriously. There might be some niche uses, and it might become something amazing in 12 years, but at this time I can't imagine the software guys will make it work optimally. Apple is suffering Microsoftitis: an inflammation of self importance and a slowdown in all parts of the body, usually accompanied by bouts of ridiculous code and complicated infrastructure.


iSpy?

True-Vu
I wonder if they will have sniffer sensors too?

 

[zarmanto]

Be careful where you travel then, rich tourist

This is indeed a point worth considering -- and as such, I would imagine Apple will treat it the same way they have been treating iOS devices, and give the device a remote-brick feature: If my iPhone is ever stolen, after I finish panicking, I would promptly disable the device from the iCloud website, so that nobody else can use it. It abruptly becomes a brick to whoever stole it, basically reducing it's value to its constituent parts. This feature has such obvious theft deterrent value, that it quickly became a standard feature of pretty much all smartphones -- not just iPhones -- and I would fully expect the same feature on any multi-hundred-dollar pair of AR glasses.

 

[s1m]

Yet another device in need of charging every night. No thanks.

Of all the items that need charging at night these are surely the least of them being an issue. I take my glasses off before I go to bed every night. When we get proper wireless charging you will just dump these on your desk and they will be charged by morning.

 

[teamgibbs]

Apple would have to develop a "backbone or spin" of the frame containing the hardware that is compact and sleek enough to modified with cosmetic frames.

Think Apple Watch and Watch bands.

All the heavy lifting would of course be performed by your phone.

 

[Michael Scrip]

What about this? Microsoft already envisioned this.

Concepts like this are always touted as "the future" of computing. Filmmakers think so too as promoted in films like Minority Report.

But who on Earth thinks see-through displays are a good idea? So you're working but you can see your couch and closet door through your apps? And see people walking behind your work?

I get the idea. No matter where you are... put on your helmet/glasses and get to work.

But call me old-fashioned... I'm fine with something like this:

 

[s1m]

Basically, I am guessing that people will soon realise that the utility of AR is kinda hampered by the need to keep holding your phone, so the glasses essentially bring AR to you 24/7. Maybe a display which can continuously translate a foreign language for you in real-time? I am clearly not imaginative enough to come up with more "power uses".

I like the other posts on this topic that you have made.

One point though - does it need to have "power uses"? can't it just have uses? Isn't getting a recipe in front of your face a good enough use? Or notifications of scores in football games, or names of players that you are looking at whilst at the ground?

I feel that people are looking for things like to cure cancer rather than be a supplement to every day life.

 

[bunnicula]

Concepts like this are always touted as "the future" of computing. Filmmakers think so too as promoted in films like Minority Report.

But who on Earth thinks see-through displays are a good idea? So you're working but you can see your couch and closet door through your apps? And see people walking behind your work?

I get the idea. No matter where you are... put on your helmet/glasses and get to work.

But call me old-fashioned... I'm fine with something like this:

Everyone wants to be Tony Stark.

 

[s1m]

Apple leaked details of this product in iOS 11.1. It's not AR glasses, it's an AR monocle. When they finally get this to release, the emoji will smile.

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Apache Helicopter pilots have had this since the 80s -

 

[Michael Scrip]

Everyone wants to be Tony Stark.

I want his suits.... not so much his see through AR displays...

 

[s1m]

I cannot see myself getting such a product.

Probably wouldn't work with your flat cap and pipe image.

 

[iPadCary]

sigh ....
I guess VR isn't even on their radar.
Not that iGlasses won't be a mind-blowingly disruptive product.
It absolutely will be. But I want a VR something from Apple, too.

And funny how this news comes out right around the time
that the buzz is that Magic Leap is going to announce something in December.
"Something that you would see out in the market any time soon [i.e. "Magic Leap"]
isn't something any of us would be satisfied with.", indeed! lol

 

[applepuree]

rdOS - Reality Distortion OS

 

[Analog Kid]

Apache Helicopter pilots have had this since the 80s -

Whatever. Apple doesn't give a rats.

 

[bunnicula]

I want his suits.... not so much his see through AR displays...

I like his cars.

 

[lordofthereef]

Ultimately, a television with an AppleTV built-in would also be out of most customers price range -- which is why I personally don't think that either of the products you're suggesting are likely to come to fruition, outside of the "CarPlay" interface.

Apple has largely refocused their strategy on markets where there is high turnover... that is, they rely upon customers who are willing to spend more money every year or two years. That's (unfortunately) one of the reasons that they haven't been focusing much on Macs; while it was the product that made them to begin with, and as such, will probably always touch a soft spot in the heart of older Apple execs, it's simply not replaced frequently enough to really keep Apple in business.

Likewise, for televisions. I'm going to be replacing the TV in my home office soon -- but the only reason for that is that my son cracked the screen of the one that was already there. Otherwise, that two-year-old TV would probably have stayed in place for at least several more years -- just like the 2012 iMac, sitting in that same home office. Apple allegedly looked into building their own "smart TV" at one point, and I personally think that they ultimately cancelled the project because they saw the writing on the wall, and anticipated low turnover.

The current AppleTV device, on the other hand, can (ostensibly) be replaced more cheaply than an entire TV. By that merit, it has the potential to become a high turnover product. (I don't think it's actually done so yet -- likely because Apple has priced the darned thing far higher than offerings from their competitors -- but the theoretical potential is at least there.)

A couple grand for a really nice TV I think would be possible. I think it’s actually a space where
Apple could be competitive price waist with the super high end models.

I realize a couple grand is speedy for a tv for many people, but look at how many dropped a thousand in a phone that is bound to last them much less time than a television set would.

I guess my Point is it’s all about perspective. I keep my TVs at least half a decade, but generally more. I’m guessing that’s not outside the norm. Also take a look at their MacBook pricing. Most folks keep those for multiple years.

I don’t think you’re wrong about apples high turnover market shift. But they also continue making products without such a turnover and just refresh them with less frequency. Perfect market for a high end TV set imo.

 

[elaydin]

I'll wait for the leaders like Magic Leap before making a decision. There must be a good reason notable companies like Google, Qualcomm, Alibaba, etc. are investing in it.

https://www.magicleap.com/

"leaders like Magic Leap"???? Stop it. Vaporware.
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Concepts like this are always touted as "the future" of computing. Filmmakers think so too as promoted in films like Minority Report.

But who on Earth thinks see-through displays are a good idea? So you're working but you can see your couch and closet door through your apps? And see people walking behind your work?

I get the idea. No matter where you are... put on your helmet/glasses and get to work.

But call me old-fashioned... I'm fine with something like this:

Except HoloLens is an actual product. Not a "concept".

 

[Tech198]

Apart from looking cool it seems u have light on in the center of your fore-head.

 

[Winni]

I feel that people are looking for things like to cure cancer rather than be a supplement to every day life.

Yeah. And if the mega corporations that are stockpiling billions of Dollars in cash were forced to put a percentage of those stockpiles into research for the common good, we might already have such a cure or at least be a good deal closer to it.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Except HoloLens is an actual product. Not a "concept".

I meant the idea of virtual floating screens in front of you projected from a helmet on your face...

versus

An actual monitor on your desk...

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[KingslayerG5]

Bill Gates is a humanitarian and has given billions to Africa. George Lucas undersold Lucasfilm for $4B and donated it to education. Samsung is diversified in case there is a market crash for electronics. Jack-of-all-trades but masters of none will help them in the long run.

Instead of always trying to be Santa/Willy Wonka, save the world! Prolong humanity. AR headset is just another toy to sell. I saw AR games since the Nintendo 3DS and PS Vita. Check out Sekai Camera in 2008 using an iPhone 3G. Or WordLens in 2010 that was bought by Google.

Everyone will just end up trying to Google the info online. Not point devices towards it! Nintendo is put in the same position as Apple. They started out with cards until being a toy maker before video games. Instead of being a software developer, they need hardware gimmicks to sell hardware.

Nintendo Wiimote & Wii U
Microsoft Kinnect & HoloLens
Google Glass
Siri
3D Touch
Live Photos (HTC Zoe rip-off!)
3D movies
VR
AR

Novelties. Gimmicks. You will go ooo and ahh in the beginning before you get back to your normal way to do things and that's to Google search it.

At least Apple is trying something different but it's just another tangible product. You get to $1 trillion dollars and it's for another toy to sell? Samsung is getting into the medical field and aerospace. They can't sell phones and appliances forever and ever.

People want to live long and find cure for diseases. Not products that might create them. But if companies don't care about a phone's battery life, they probably don't care about our's.

 

[bbeagle]

I'm being completely serious here. What is the endgame with a product like this? People are already disconnected enough from reality and shut off their brains in certain situations because "my phone will figure it out". Now more than ever people using critical thinking is very important. Kids are having more and more anxiety and social phobias for example.

Not trying to put a wet blanket on anything.....just to figure out what exactly Augmented Reality in this form is going to do other than prevent people from living in the real world even more so.

Intelligent discussion welcome...

Watch a sporting event from the 1980s, then watch one from today.

When watching American Football, I had to wait until the commercial break to find out the score, the quarter and the time remaining. It was rarely shown during the game. Now, constantly on the screen is a display of the score, time remaining, quarter, down and distance, other scores, player stats, etc.

Much like video games have all sorts of hearts, lives, scores or statistics all over the screen, I think our lives will have the same sorts of stuff, and we'll get used to it.

Streets we walk by will be labeled. Buildings will be labeled. People we walk by that we know be labeled with names. You won't forget anyone's name anymore. Well, you will, but you'll be reminded of it. When you walk by a building with an event going on, it will tell you - 'Free Museum entrance today', 'Buy one / get one on pizza purchases today', 'Birthday party starts here in 15 minutes'

We'll get the time and date, and weather, always displayed in the corners of our view. We'll be warned - 'it's going to rain in 2 minutes!'. 95% of our screen will be transparent to show the surrounding area, except when we go to watch a game or something.

It will be a different future, and your kids will come to expect it, and won't be able to live without a HUD constantly available to them in real life.

 

[jonnyb098]

Watch a sporting event from the 1980s, then watch one from today.

When watching American Football, I had to wait until the commercial break to find out the score, the quarter and the time remaining. It was rarely shown during the game. Now, constantly on the screen is a display of the score, time remaining, quarter, down and distance, other scores, player stats, etc.

Much like video games have all sorts of hearts, lives, scores or statistics all over the screen, I think our lives will have the same sorts of stuff, and we'll get used to it.

Streets we walk by will be labeled. Buildings will be labeled. People we walk by that we know be labeled with names. You won't forget anyone's name anymore. Well, you will, but you'll be reminded of it. When you walk by a building with an event going on, it will tell you - 'Free Museum entrance today', 'Buy one / get one on pizza purchases today', 'Birthday party starts here in 15 minutes'

We'll get the time and date, and weather, always displayed in the corners of our view. We'll be warned - 'it's going to rain in 2 minutes!'. 95% of our screen will be transparent to show the surrounding area, except when we go to watch a game or something.

It will be a different future, and your kids will come to expect it, and won't be able to live without a HUD constantly available to them in real life.

Yes but all the sporting stuff still occurs on a screen as far as those advancements you mention.

While everything you laid out sounds very interesting. Like I said....its allowing people to turn their brains off and for our culture to be even more creepy in plain sight!

Will said glasses also scan people it doesn't know and try to find info? I guess its goo we will be looking up instead of down. Hah

 

[krazzix]

But who on Earth thinks see-through displays are a good idea? So you're working but you can see your couch and closet door through your apps? And see people walking behind your work?

You're right, but actually the HoloLens already has the ability to create solid object you can't see through.

 

[bbeagle]

I guess its goo we will be looking up instead of down. Hah

Good point.

I also think safety things will be put in place too. Like a big red WARNING flashing when you're trying to step in front of a car on the street. You'll notice this WARNING because it's right in your view.