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I'll go against the grain and say this is awesome.

Everyone complained about the lightning connector, now people have moved on, upgraded their old crappy stuff, and life is good. Look how terrible a 30 pin connector looks now!? This is technology, it changes, and that means you need to upgrade every so often. Pay to play. So get on board, get with the new stuff or keep your 6S as long as humanly possible. Either way, it won't matter - Apple will get you, and if not, tech in general will and someday you'll have to move on no matter what, so may as well just get it over with and embrace it. Especially if you are playing in the expensive Apple ecosystem, why are you complaining? They are already saying there will be an adapter (oh the outcry of a $20 adapter for your $800 phone!!) and could you imagine the pissing and moaning if Apple said F you and there wasn't going to be an adapter? People here are never happy with anything.

Also I'm holding my iPod touch 6G in my hand (which most people have never probably held since it's a dead product) and while I've never been one to care too much about thinness, I have to admit the iPod touch 6G thickness is absolutely sublime. This is the sweet spot for the thickness of the iPhone of the future. Think how chunky/clunky the 6/6S will look when people get used to a 6mm thick phone. Don't believe me? Pick up a touch 6G and see for yourself.

To be quite frank, if it were up to the denizens of macrumors and how they complain year in year out about the phones getting any thinner, the iPhone 7 would be as thick as an iPhone 3G. People complained the 4 was too thin FFS. How many of those people today could go back to that thick brick? Battery in the 6/6S is better than the battery in the 4 too. Technology moves on, and I'm on board. You guys had to see this coming 4-5 years ago.
 
Remember folks Apple knows what we want before we even know what we want. i mean who would want to have a power pack for a long flight/journey to keep your phone running and want to listen to music on your expensive headphones that you already own.Also a DAC will need its own power or drain the battery even faster. Only plus side could be that Hi Res files (greater than CD quality) can be listened to as at the moment 24bit is not possible through the 3.5 jack and only through the lightening connector via a DAC.
 
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I'm excited. The headphone jack is 60+year old technology and needs to be gone. Most audio devices I've owned that failed was because of oxidation of the headphone jack causing static. My only concern is creating a new universal standard. Dumping the headphone jack would be reason enough to upgrade.
 
I'll go against the grain and say this is awesome.

Everyone complained about the lightning connector, now people have moved on, upgraded their old crappy stuff, and life is good. Look how terrible a 30 pin connector looks now!? This is technology, it changes, and that means you need to upgrade every so often. Pay to play. So get on board, get with the new stuff or keep your 6S as long as humanly possible. Either way, it won't matter - Apple will get you, and if not, tech in general will and someday you'll have to move on no matter what, so may as well just get it over with and embrace it. Especially if you are playing in the expensive Apple ecosystem, why are you complaining? They are already saying there will be an adapter (oh the outcry of a $20 adapter for your $800 phone!!) and could you imagine the pissing and moaning if Apple said F you and there wasn't going to be an adapter? People here are never happy with anything.

Also I'm holding my iPod touch 6G in my hand (which most people have never probably held since it's a dead product) and while I've never been one to care too much about thinness, I have to admit the iPod touch 6G thickness is absolutely sublime. This is the sweet spot for the thickness of the iPhone of the future. Think how chunky/clunky the 6/6S will look when people get used to a 6mm thick phone. Don't believe me? Pick up a touch 6G and see for yourself.

To be quite frank, if it were up to the denizens of macrumors and how they complain year in year out about the phones getting any thinner, the iPhone 7 would be as thick as an iPhone 3G. People complained the 4 was too thin FFS. How many of those people today could go back to that thick brick? Battery in the 6/6S is better than the battery in the 4 too. Technology moves on, and I'm on board. You guys had to see this coming 4-5 years ago.

Thanks for the speech, Phil.
Love your thin avatar.
 
I know this may sound crazy to most people, but I’m all for this. Although I’d much more prefer to get a wireless pair of Apple EarPods than a lightning version. Because to me a lightning version isn’t really changing all that much. Its more a a nice plan B for people who don’t want to use wireless. I think Apple should push bluetooth all the way.
 
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If you can afford an iPhone, you can also afford $400 headphones, even though you don't want to shell out. Not really that crazy for the cord, though I hate to loose my legacy equipment upon upgrade. Guess I'll just upgrade to the H8 from the H6.

The only thing I don't like, with bluetooth and other wireless standards, is the lag from the source to the headphones.
 
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Adapter sold separately for just $19.99.
Also, nobody needs to charge an iPhone and possibly use the audio jack as well!
Bluetooth has the same audio quality as 3.5.
/s

Shall I continue?

Well, wireless uses more juice and it's just another device to keep charged. meh...

They make it very hard to feel too excited about their products these days.
I'll sack some hate, but whatever: the magic is gone.
At this point most of the reasons Apple gear still is better than competing products can be boiled down to:
-existing investment into the ecosystem
-possibly a better focus on privacy, which I have to admit I love
-former success and sensible design (software and hardware, mostly hardware these days as they say goodbye to many software feats)

Glassed Silver:mac

PS: Oh and how convenient to make the iPhone thinner again. That way you might lust for that separate port even more whilst listening to music when you face the obstacle of picking between charging and audio.
Of course there will be Y-splitters, yours for just 29.99!

You know this is a rumour right?
 
It will be tough to deal with but makes sense. It's like phasing out the CD drive on computers. Lots of people will complain but everything is going to Bluetooth. I rarely use mine because of my Lifeproof case which requires that screw on adapter. Does suck we'll have to buy an adapter. All I would need that for is for running with some cheap ear buds if my Apple ones crap out.

More room for chip and thinner design. Apple is usually the first to make these kinds of dramatic changes.
 
Um...how are you suppose to listen to music while charging your iPhone then? If true, this is stoooopid. Unless Apple plans to bring wireless charging to the iPhone 7.
 
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Apple, I had enough with your greedy attitude. What is the point of making lightening connector for headphone? You just made me want to more wireless earphones. Thanks.
 
I knew this would happen. You can only make the phone so thin, before you have to eliminate the 3.5mm jack. I know you guys saw this coming, as Apple is obsessed with thinnest.
 
As long you can afford an iPhone, you can also afford $400 headphones, even though you don't want to shell out. Not really that crazy for the cord, though I hate to loose my legacy equipment upon upgrade. Guess I'll just upgrade to the H8 from the H6.

The only thing I don't like is the lag from the source to the headphones.


What a stupid thing to say, how about we take that philosophy with everything... you can afford this so why can't you afford this other thing to make it work properly? Then you end up spending just as much on the extras, it all builds up and oh look you cannot afford paying twice as much for every ****ing thing.

3.5mm is a standard, it'll always be a standard, where as Apple's connector is Apple only and wont ever be. No one wants an adapter and if it's anything like the lightning port, the thing will wobble around in there and will break like every lighting cable ever. I seriously go through about 5 of them a year, my whole family has iPhones, yet we all fight over 1 or 2 cables because we have about 20 odd faulty lighting cables.
 
I'll go against the grain and say this is awesome.

Everyone complained about the lightning connector, now people have moved on, upgraded their old crappy stuff, and life is good. Look how terrible a 30 pin connector looks now!? This is technology, it changes, and that means you need to upgrade every so often. Pay to play. So get on board, get with the new stuff or keep your 6S as long as humanly possible. Either way, it won't matter - Apple will get you, and if not, tech in general will and someday you'll have to move on no matter what, so may as well just get it over with and embrace it. Especially if you are playing in the expensive Apple ecosystem, why are you complaining? They are already saying there will be an adapter (oh the outcry of a $20 adapter for your $800 phone!!) and could you imagine the pissing and moaning if Apple said F you and there wasn't going to be an adapter? People here are never happy with anything.

Also I'm holding my iPod touch 6G in my hand (which most people have never probably held since it's a dead product) and while I've never been one to care too much about thinness, I have to admit the iPod touch 6G thickness is absolutely sublime. This is the sweet spot for the thickness of the iPhone of the future. Think how chunky/clunky the 6/6S will look when people get used to a 6mm thick phone. Don't believe me? Pick up a touch 6G and see for yourself.

To be quite frank, if it were up to the denizens of macrumors and how they complain year in year out about the phones getting any thinner, the iPhone 7 would be as thick as an iPhone 3G. People complained the 4 was too thin FFS. How many of those people today could go back to that thick brick? Battery in the 6/6S is better than the battery in the 4 too. Technology moves on, and I'm on board. You guys had to see this coming 4-5 years ago.

Also, if they do this, it won't be just so they can make the phone thinner - as someone pointed out, they could make the phone thinner without touching the headphone port (see iPod Touch for details). The main argument for this will be that it leads to improved audio quality, the kind of thing which will make people say "I'm not using those old-fashioned headphones ever again!". And not only that, but they will give you a pair of these new Lightning Bolt (TM) headphones when you buy the phone.

The difference compared to your old headphones will be like comparing a CD to a cassette tape. Just when everyone is speculating that there are no compelling reasons to upgrade your iPhone 6, they will create a stampede of customers upgrading to a new phone in order to get these new Bolts which will come in phone-matching colours of space gray, silver, gold and rose gold.

Then see how long it takes for Samsung to introduce the new "Samsung Firebuds".
 
If it comes with an adapter then I'm fine with it, known Apple that's probably won't be the case.

I'm going to get myself some Bluetooth headphones, maybe Beats?
 
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NO no no Apple, DONT DO IT ! Dont wanna loose 3.5 :/ What about loudspeaker connect with 3.5 ! Will not be easy anymore if this happends :/
 
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Remember folks Apple knows what we want before we even know what we want. i mean who would want to have a power pack for a long flight/journey to keep your phone running and want to listen to music on your expensive headphones that you already own.Also a DAC will need its own power or drain the battery even faster. Only plus side could be that Hi Res files (greater than CD quality) can be listened to as at the moment 24bit is not possible through the 3.5 jack and only through the lightening connector via a DAC.

Because people can hear the difference... oh wait they cannot, especially not from phone hardware or what 99.9999999999% of the headphones people buy. Even then your hearing peaks at about 8, by the time you have money for nice things you're in your 20's, by which time your hearing is shot and so it doesn't matter.
 
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