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Good, a thinner iPhone. Yes I said it, I bought an iPhone 6s, and I'm disappointed with the thickness and weight. I'm serious, I hope they update the iPhone 5s to the same thickness and weight of the iPod touch, and I will be very happy.

Regarding the new audio plug, I don't mind, but I'm not sure those standard Apple pods will be good enough to hear the improvement. If there is already anything noticeable for the human ear. Lol
 
I seriously go through about 5 of them a year, my whole family has iPhones, yet we all fight over 1 or 2 cables because we have about 20 odd faulty lighting cables.

I've had the problem of finding a cable, we own about 5-6, but no faulty ones. Stop fighting.
 
I'll go against the grain and say this is awesome.

Everyone complained about the lightning connector, now people have moved on, upgraded their old crappy stuff, and life is good. Look how terrible a 30 pin connector looks now!? This is technology, it changes, and that means you need to upgrade every so often. Pay to play. So get on board, get with the new stuff or keep your 6S as long as humanly possible. Either way, it won't matter - Apple will get you, and if not, tech in general will and someday you'll have to move on no matter what, so may as well just get it over with and embrace it. Especially if you are playing in the expensive Apple ecosystem, why are you complaining? They are already saying there will be an adapter (oh the outcry of a $20 adapter for your $800 phone!!) and could you imagine the pissing and moaning if Apple said F you and there wasn't going to be an adapter? People here are never happy with anything.

Also I'm holding my iPod touch 6G in my hand (which most people have never probably held since it's a dead product) and while I've never been one to care too much about thinness, I have to admit the iPod touch 6G thickness is absolutely sublime. This is the sweet spot for the thickness of the iPhone of the future. Think how chunky/clunky the 6/6S will look when people get used to a 6mm thick phone. Don't believe me? Pick up a touch 6G and see for yourself.

To be quite frank, if it were up to the denizens of macrumors and how they complain year in year out about the phones getting any thinner, the iPhone 7 would be as thick as an iPhone 3G. People complained the 4 was too thin FFS. How many of those people today could go back to that thick brick? Battery in the 6/6S is better than the battery in the 4 too. Technology moves on, and I'm on board. You guys had to see this coming 4-5 years ago.
Are you one of those people who will gladly take one for the team?
 
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Adapter sold separately for just $19.99.
Also, nobody needs to charge an iPhone and possibly use the audio jack as well!
Bluetooth has the same audio quality as 3.5.
/s

Shall I continue?

Well, wireless uses more juice and it's just another device to keep charged. meh...

They make it very hard to feel too excited about their products these days.
I'll sack some hate, but whatever: the magic is gone.
At this point most of the reasons Apple gear still is better than competing products can be boiled down to:
-existing investment into the ecosystem
-possibly a better focus on privacy, which I have to admit I love
-former success and sensible design (software and hardware, mostly hardware these days as they say goodbye to many software feats)

Glassed Silver:mac

PS: Oh and how convenient to make the iPhone thinner again. That way you might lust for that separate port even more whilst listening to music when you face the obstacle of picking between charging and audio.
Of course there will be Y-splitters, yours for just 29.99!

If only this were a rumor on a site dedicated to rumors.
 
As long as there will be an adaptor, as I'm getting new headphones for Christmas and the 3.5mm is a standard. :oops:

But we all knew it was coming. I really don't get the benefit to be honest.
 
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I am in agreement with this if it includes extra battery, improved bluetooth connection for headphones, and the wireless charging someone mentioned earlier.

We all have to update sooner or later.
 
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I like the move. Haven't used headphones in years and if I was in a situation where I waned/needed to, I would buy wireless headphones.
 



Apple is planning to remove the 3.5mm headphone jack on the next-generation iPhone in favor of an all-in-one Lightning connector, according to often-reliable Japanese website Mac Otakara. Apple may also release Lightning-equipped EarPods to support the new audio output on future iOS devices.

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The report, citing a "reliable source," claims the new same-sized Lightning connector will support Lightning-equipped and Bluetooth headphones, and have a DAC, or digital-to-audio converter, for backwards compatibility with wired headphones using standard 3.5mm stereo jacks. A 3.5mm to Lightning adapter would be required.

The so-called "iPhone 7" will likely be more than 1mm thinner than the 7.1mm thick iPhone 6s as a result, according to the report. The sixth-generation iPod touch could be a comparable device, which has a depth of 6.1mm, but the portable media player still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.

Apple will also reportedly release Lightning-equipped EarPods, which would likely be included in the box alongside the iPhone 7 and sold separately for use with other future iOS devices. Apple's current EarPods with a 3.5mm stereo jack will presumably remain available for purchase afterwards for the foreseeable future.

Apple introduced new MFi Program specifications in June 2014 that allow third-party manufacturers to create headphones that connect to iOS devices via a Lightning cable, but the rollout has been slow. Philips has unveiled Lightning-equipped Fidelio M2L and Fidelio NC1L headphones over the past 14 months.

Should this rumor prove to be true, Apple's decision to switch to an all-in-one Lightning connector for charging and audio output could face the same kind of controversy as when the company retired its proprietary 30-pin dock connector in favor of a smaller Lightning connector starting with the iPhone 5 in 2012.

Article Link: Apple May Replace 3.5mm Headphone Jack on iPhone 7 With All-in-One Lightning Connector
Evidence of over simplification pain is in the 1 USB-C port 12" macbook. The port handles currents both ways, but one can only do each task singly.
I guess progress means there is some small sacrifice
 
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This sounds completely asinine. Please don't, Apple. Not for another year or two.
 
You know this is a rumour right?

If only this were a rumor on a site dedicated to rumors.

I know this is a rumor, doesn't mean that this wouldn't fit into a series of awful decisions.

The fact that pretty much anyone following this thread has already noticed we're all talking about a rumor here puts enough of a disclaimer in front of peoples messages that if they say "**** that" that we all understand we're talking about a possibility, not a confirmed, leaked information.

Glassed Silver:mac

PS: I think this is more of a question when they will do it, not if. If two ports on a laptop isn't holy to them, why should 2 ports be holier to them in a much younger device category?
 
This is the dumbest ****ing idea I've heard yet.

I know... Right? But guess what... Millions of people will keep buying the iPhone no matter what they do. They know they can't lose so why not save some money on building the phone with one less part. Oh and then they can also sell dongles, adapters and and Beats headphones with a proprietary connector!

That's how you make money once you have an iPhone. Nothing can take it down. Missing features is why I carry an LG G4 now even though I enjoy my iPad and iMac.
 
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I'd have no problems with this IF they'd only charge $5 for the adaptor. Because I'd need a bunch:
  • One in my car (although I don't know how I'll charge the iPhone and listen over the stereo at the same time.
  • Another one for the headphones in the car (why? so when I get out of the car with the headphones and they don't make it back, I can still use it with the stereo).
  • For the headphones I use in the house.
  • For the earbuds I keep in my computer case.
  • For the noise canceling headphones I keep in my travel airplane.
Because if I do any of those things and I'm missing the adaptor, I'm stuck.

And the adaptor needs to let me charge AND listen at the same time.

If Apple was smarter, they'd have started including lightning headphones already so that when they finally eliminated this, there would be less of an issue (and people wouldn't be surprised).

I think this is a big deal in that this headphone jack size is pretty much an industry standard for a while now...

All of this to create a thinner iPhone, which (pretty much) no one but Apple thinks they need. Make my iPhone twice as thick so I never have to charge it and they can keep a nicer lens on it (thinner means not as nice of a lens).

I have all kinds of listening that I love, replacing them all with bluetooth new ones isn't an option (and I'm not even sure if I can use those on airplanes these days, probably not during takeoff IF at all).

Gary
 
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