So they can make even more profit. Apple owns the lightning connector so they would take a cut from every compatible set of headphones sold.
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Apple May Replace 3.5mm Headphone Jack on iPhone 7 With All-in-One Lightning Connector
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My apologies, I didn't realize you were trolling.
Lets see. Ridiculous, incorrect, comments that can't be backed up and when called on it goingoes into attack mode to try and deflect. There IS trolling involved, you are just confused on which party it is.
I responded to you pointing out where your comment was incorrect, that causes utter chaos to someone that thinks they are never wrong.
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Exactly! I don't need my phone to be any thinner. I already can't pick the darn thing up off the table. So many times it has squirted out of my hand like a wet bar of soap, as I've struggled like an idiot to pick it up off flat surfaces. What I do need is more battery life. I wish Apple would stop obsessing over "thinner" and start obsessing over "better".
Strange. This tells me the same about you!
Did you know that all audio on the phone is digital? I've been listening to it for years now using just my Lighting connector (and various wireless options (also digital) when not in my car).
The headphone jack has been a complete waste of space (and money!) for me for years.
Don't you think having a useless component in the phone degrades it?
How long do you expect others to keep subsidizing your use of steam-era tech?
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I actually like this idea. Time to remove the old 3.5mm jack its really old. But to do this Apple would have to offer and Apple Bluetooth Head/ear phones (at $200+ Beats don't count) and/or wireless charging and/or Lightning to 3.5mm adaptor.
I live with the crappier quality of bluetooth because I rather not have wires.
I live with the crappier quality of bluetooth because I rather not have wires.
Regardless if the saved space is moved outside the device to be carried separately, the space is still saved inside the device, which is one of the reasons it's being done. And it's not like it's a huge amount of additional baggage being added to something not everybody uses. Everybody benefits from the internal reclamation of the removal of these parts, but only people who wear WIRED headphones may suffer slightly in having to carry that stuff outside the phone. I don't know about you, but wireless headphones are the norm at my gym these days. The Watch is only going to drive that market. People who insist on using high quality wired headphones are already at a disadvantage having to carry substantial, and bulky accessories around anyway, especially with all the added wire wrapped around them -- adding a tiny adapter is minimal in comparison to the choice they've already made.
And just how big do you think the DAC is? The biggest reclamation will be the headphone jack. Compared to all the other components in the iPhone, that's one of the biggest (the DAC being one of the smallest). And the jack is single use for something that can be handled by various other components that have to be there already.
And because the internal DAC only has to drive a low quality tiny speakers, Apple can use a lower quality, smaller, and less expensive part specificly for that purpose. So it's win-win all the way around.
Because they think its time to let it go? Just like what they did with lighting already, so much frustration from lot of people before they figured out it was actually better than the old one 30 pin Dock.
Currently everyone are happy with lighting, so it just takes some time to adapt something new.
Yup and that will be handled exactly the same way as the headphones ... A simple adapter. In fact Square and others might even come up with one they give away for free to keep customers from switching to a new provider. And of course you realize this apple's solely to new iDevice purchases. If a merchant is still using swipe cards, they're already exposing themselves to credit liability with every swipe. Chances are they aren't going to buy the latest and greatest Apple tech to use with their card reader, when the old stuff works as well as it always did. And even if they did, the old device will still work with the new phone in tethered mode should wifi not be available for the old device, without having to have both phones on a cell plan.
There's absolutely nothing about this particular issue that's even really qualifies as a problem. It's no different than anytime Apple changes something without warning and the product a customer previously bought no longer works with the new device. And it hasn't seemed to hurt Apple one bit.
My concern is more about Lightening not being much of a standard even for Apple. The new Macbook uses USB 3 Type C with no lightening port. Here is a situation where Apple's own hardware would not be compatible and that is a major problem.
Unless they are going to go hard and unify around lightening or USB Type C, Apple should stick with the 3.5mm port and save everyone the headaches.
Unless they are going to go hard and unify around lightening or USB Type C, Apple should stick with the 3.5mm port and save everyone the headaches.
And I imagine the reason to be that no one else has the balls to do away with the audio jack and replace it with something else.I just don't get it. I understand Apple is about innovation, but why mess with a standard audio connector that has been around since the mid-twentieth century. There's a reason it's been around for so long. This seems like it will be a recipe for much consumer frustration.
Also, I can picture the ugly third party adapter now, because we all know that Apple will not create a version for charging and listening at the same time. It will be a Y-adapter that plugs into the phone and has one cable to allow for charging and one for a 3.5mm headphone input. So sleek.
Apple is probably one of very few companies who can get away with such a stunt. You know it, they know it. What's the use of all that influence and clout if Apple doesn't pull a little stunt like this once in a while.
It's been quite some time since the floppy disk on the Mac, since the hardware keyboard on the phone, since the dvd drive on the laptop, since flash in iOS devices. Yup, I would say it's about time.
That's just part of what makes Apple so amazing in the first place - that they are not afraid to march to their own step and not care 2 hoots about what other people think. I personally would expect nothing less of Apple.
What makes the headphone jack people more deserving of Apple's support than people who want modern stuff?
We modern people have been paying for something we don't need for years, just to not upset the old fashioned people. When is it going to be our turn?
All the cars I've connected my phone 6 too was either wired via USB or Bluetooth. If it's that serious just keep your old phone for car duty only.So no connection to the car stereo because driving a car is so last decade...
It's annoying to have to pay for an adapter for my headphones that are not Apple earbuds. But, more annoying is that you won't be able to use it with headphones and charge it at the same time. This is a pretty typical application in my car where I often wear a headset for handsfree and have the phone plugged into the auxiliary power outlet in the car. It's a situation like that where I think Apple goes too far for the sake of thinness and forgets about the customer's needs.
Yes. The iMac is another example. USB for everything ( well, not the headphone jack
), at a time when on PCs, mouse, keyboard, printer, external disk and modem each had their own specific connector. PCs did have USB, because Microsoft required it, but USB peripherals did not really appear until after the iMac.Try looking up the word cavalier. It's that kind of attitude that causes loyal Apple customers to be angry with Apple. And before you break out a rant on me, I'll tell you that I've made nearly seven figures in profit on Apple stock the past three years and still haven't sold any of my position. Yet, as a shareholder I don't like the way Apple can "cavalierly" ignore it's customers needs on occasions like this, just for the sake of "thinness".
Yes, it's also annoying to pay for a headphone jack I don't need. Had to do it for years. Enough! I'm a customer too! Let them think of my needs for a change.
So you really think the lack of a headphone adapter will lower the price? Good luck.
It's a bad example as the adapters for any other brand of headphones will cost and the lack of a headphone jack will not lower the price of an iphone a penny. They are not thinking of anyone's needs except their bottom line like how many adapters they can sell. Nice rant though.
You've got it backwards. There's nothing about having the 3.5mm jack that qualifies as a problem. Almost ALL headphones out today use that interface. There's nothing lacking in the sound fidelity from such a connection and it's already very small. This creates a problem, it doesn't solve one. And I'd say having to remember to carry around a stupid adapter to be able to use my headphones qualifies as creating a problem. A friend wants to listen to something on your phone? Too bad...if you left the adapter at home.
The 30-pin connector change had some uproar, but it was generally mild because Lightning was a better connector in every way, and the change only affected iPhone accessories anyway. If Apple had already used something like Micro USB on the iPhone and then they changed to the lightning after four years, where EVERY connector in the smartphone world was the same, you'd have had MUCH larger pushback on lightning (even though it's superior).
Even with that, though: What's superior about removing the 3.5" jack? Now I need proprietary headphones that only work with my phone (and won't work with a stereo or my computer), I need a y-splitter if I want to use those headphones while charging, etc. Instead of popularizing USB, which was a universal standard, this change would actually turn a universal standard into a proprietary one. Apples recent change to the USB-C connector on the AppleTV and Macbook is fine (though I think having only one on the Macbook is supremely stupid), because it's a universal standard...most USB devices will likely migrate to that over the next several years. that WON'T be the case with Lightning headphones because it's an Apple-only standard: no other non-Apple phone, tablet, computer or stereo will ever have a lightning port.
First, you sound like someone who would buy a new iPhone if Apple came out and said "2 inch screens are really where it's at!" Second, there's a big difference between the floppy disk and the 3.5mm headphone jack. The floppy disk was dying. Apple ditched it earlier than most thought was prudent, but people across the computer world had been searching for a replacement for nearly a decade by that point. Zip disks, LS120, etc...it was a dying format due to its small size and it was going away anyway. The 3.5mm jack? It's never been more widespread and used at any point in history right now. Why ditch it? It's not like it's this albatross that people have been trying to get away from for years.
Not sure if serious. My guess is at least 80% of iPhone owners (and smartphone owners in general) use the headphone jack on a semi-regular basis.
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People are also ignoring that apple patented a half-height 3.5mm not long ago so it may not actually be about going to a totally different type of connector but one with a proprietary shape.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/22/apple...dphone-jack-ready-for-slimmer-future-iphones/