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lol I'm too young to know anything about that. I'd rather live my innocent life while i can.
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lol I'm too young to know anything about that. I'd rather live my innocent life while i can.
good point. i guess that that's how it starts. you develop opinions on somewhat insignificant matters then you move on to the big game.
i still wont be able to join a republican or democratic party untill i bocome a citizen, so i dont have to worry about that for now.
Downloading Games DRM
Can you imagine the DRM that Apple would slap on to the 'downloadable games' mentioned earlier in the thread?
It would be goodbye to taking a game over to your mate's house, goodbye to second-hand selling on, etc.
Not for me.
(Although i would love to see Apple get in the way of the Big Three somehow, a games console seems a suicide move. But a media centre with gaming capabilities, possibly emulation, sounds like it just might have a chance.)
Can you imagine the DRM that Apple would slap on to the 'downloadable games' mentioned earlier in the thread?
It would be goodbye to taking a game over to your mate's house, goodbye to second-hand selling on, etc.
Not for me.
(Although i would love to see Apple get in the way of the Big Three somehow, a games console seems a suicide move. But a media centre with gaming capabilities, possibly emulation, sounds like it just might have a chance.)
I don't think Apple should enter this market with its own console...but the chance of buying Nintendo is there, really.
For those that think Nintendo is too expensive, it's just at 30 billion market cap...Apple's is at almost 80 billion.
A good stock-swap offer would do it for Nintendo...they will be dead soon anyway.
Far better having more Macs with dedicated graphics.
Though I presume your post to be tongue-in-cheek, still...wouldn't it be far simpler to just upgrade the consumer-priced Macs with dedicated graphics?
Looking at Sony's current problems with PS3 being over-priced, Nintendo's uncertain future until Wii's release & MS's continuing mega-losses with Xbox 360, I agree with those who think that Apple would be better off not entering this particular market. I think more gaming availability on Macs is a far better way to go.
apple will be the first to create a pc game console. that is if they can bear to put a decent gpu in the thing. mac cube pro
Though I presume your post to be tongue-in-cheek, still...wouldn't it be far simpler to just upgrade the consumer-priced Macs with dedicated graphics?
Looking at Sony's current problems with PS3 being over-priced, Nintendo's uncertain future until Wii's release & MS's continuing mega-losses with Xbox 360, I agree with those who think that Apple would be better off not entering this particular market. I think more gaming availability on Macs is a far better way to go.
true this would be the easy option, but apple has a chance to create something really great here. They could not only bring a more accessibility and justification to online media, but they could bring pc games into the living room. If they had a double stack mini with a 256 gpu in it, it would still be apple elegantas well as being an effective as a game console. If this mac tower dream were to come true it would be well equiped enough to not have to rely on the fact that it will play games because it will be sterdy enough to handle any media you throw at it. It is surprising to me that M$ has not yet done this with the 360..... but then again they didn't even make the 360 backwards compatable
. + they would loose money on selling xp and vista to gamers.bottom line is apple is moving in to the livingroom, if games are to be played in the apple living room is yet to be seen.
also what is with these rumors(iphone, game console) making it to main stream news??? They are not even confirmed yet. seems that people are paying more attention to apple now. perhaps the Mac v PC commercials have sparked the interest.
360 Mega Losses? hmmm that was last year Microsoft is now making a 70..+ profit per 360.
Nintendo wii is a lot of fun and revolutionary with the wiimote, the ps3 nothing impressive the blue ray is not surprising me at all all the films are grainy (i have 1080p) nothing spectacular i have hd dvd and now thats what i call HIGH DEFINITION.
i turned my ps3 into a linux box/ multimedia hub.
i thought i would be playing the ps3 more but for some reason i lean towards the 360 more.
Nintendo wii is a lot of fun and revolutionary with the wiimote, the ps3 nothing impressive the blue ray is not surprising me at all all the films are grainy (i have 1080p) nothing spectacular i have hd dvd and now thats what i call HIGH DEFINITION.
i turned my ps3 into a linux box/ multimedia hub.
i thought i would be playing the ps3 more but for some reason i lean towards the 360 more.
Gaming imac
what apple needs is a computer between Mac Pro and imac for gamers.
something like a 30" HD imac with better possessor,memory and especially graphics card than the 24" imac maybe even a Blueray/HDDVD drive. Would be a good fit with Bootcamp
what apple needs is a computer between Mac Pro and imac for gamers.
something like a 30" HD imac with better possessor,memory and especially graphics card than the 24" imac maybe even a Blueray/HDDVD drive. Would be a good fit with Bootcamp
Both the iMac and Mac Pro need better graphics options. The x1900xt and fx4500 cards on the Mac Pro are stale and the the 4500 is way overpriced compared to what the PC version is selling for... And I mean way overpriced even considering what Apple usually charges as a premium.
The Mac Pro is priced pretty competitively for what it is... Maybe they should offer a config with only 1 CPU installed. OTOH, it still would be nice to see a consumer mid-tower with nice GPU options and using standard DDR2 DIMM memory instead of the insanely expensive FB-DIMMs, which are of little use to most consumers, even gamers.
W00t! Another vote for an Apple-designed hard-core gamer machine. Two graphics slots, easily upgraded. Add in mucho RAM capacity, and fast hard disks (10000 RPM or better). Work with vendor(s) to build in super-fast wireless mouse and keyboard (BT is fine, but not quite good enough for gamers).
I keep saying it too - this is what they need to round out their lineup. I just don't think we'll ever see it.
my first post! hopefully a good idea...
hey everybody what's up! this is my first post and i have an idea on this topic.
instead of apple making a all-out console all they have to do is add a graphics card option to the mac mini, macbook, and imac. here are my reasons why:
1.Consoles are starting to mimic computers- although the ps3 is attempting their best at this, it is still not a computer. there is no better os than tiger and no better computer made than apple.
2. Price- with the exorbitant price of the ps3, apple can make a deal with ati or nvidia to mass market graphics cards and offer it as an $100-$150 option for the macbook, imac, and mac mini. this way a mac mini can cost a tad more than the ps3 but still be a full-fledged computer. parents would feel a lot easier letting go of their hard earned money if they knew their child was getting an educational tool along with a console. at the same point a macbook could become a portable gaming console. the specs of the imac, mini, and macbook are so similar that one could easily develop a game for all three.
3. Graphics Card- Give the mini, imac, and macbook the same graphics card option(ie: ati x1600). send a mandate out to all developers that they are to develop for the specs of the original series of computers released for a 5 yr. span (avg. life for a console and computer). allow the mac pro and the macbook pro to get annually upgraded graphics card for professional purposes and so if there is a ultra high end game on windows they would like to play, they could always use boot camp.
4. Mac OS is in a way a closed system- Since only a Mac can run OS X, game
developers can design solely for that OS have less of a worry about piracy.
5. iTunes- They can sell some downloadable games and sell episodic content. it can be the one stop shop for all your entertainment purposes and hardware/software concerns.
6.iPhone- allow the same features the 360 has with windows mobile on the iphone
7.Design & Marketing- Their computers already look the best and it could be the first portable home video game console with the macbook. goodbye psp!
8.Minimal Risk- introducing a whole new gaming console is too much of a big risk to apple. they would not be losing much if they just ordered a huge shipment of graphic cards from a manufacturer. and besides how many of you
would love to upgrade your graphics card for $150?
9. Development Cost- since most consoles are always trying to make their money back from the system on game prices, apple could avoid this pitfall as it allows them not develop any console at all. because of this, game prices will be cheaper.
10. Best of All Worlds- because apple is both great at hardware and software, it is a major advantage that it has over the big three. the big three have made sub-par attempts at making their console into a media center or computer. apple has already done the hard part, all they would need is the graphics card.
hey everybody what's up! this is my first post and i have an idea on this topic.
instead of apple making a all-out console all they have to do is add a graphics card option to the mac mini, macbook, and imac. here are my reasons why:
1.Consoles are starting to mimic computers- although the ps3 is attempting their best at this, it is still not a computer. there is no better os than tiger and no better computer made than apple.
2. Price- with the exorbitant price of the ps3, apple can make a deal with ati or nvidia to mass market graphics cards and offer it as an $100-$150 option for the macbook, imac, and mac mini. this way a mac mini can cost a tad more than the ps3 but still be a full-fledged computer. parents would feel a lot easier letting go of their hard earned money if they knew their child was getting an educational tool along with a console. at the same point a macbook could become a portable gaming console. the specs of the imac, mini, and macbook are so similar that one could easily develop a game for all three.
3. Graphics Card- Give the mini, imac, and macbook the same graphics card option(ie: ati x1600). send a mandate out to all developers that they are to develop for the specs of the original series of computers released for a 5 yr. span (avg. life for a console and computer). allow the mac pro and the macbook pro to get annually upgraded graphics card for professional purposes and so if there is a ultra high end game on windows they would like to play, they could always use boot camp.
4. Mac OS is in a way a closed system- Since only a Mac can run OS X, game
developers can design solely for that OS have less of a worry about piracy.
5. iTunes- They can sell some downloadable games and sell episodic content. it can be the one stop shop for all your entertainment purposes and hardware/software concerns.
6.iPhone- allow the same features the 360 has with windows mobile on the iphone
7.Design & Marketing- Their computers already look the best and it could be the first portable home video game console with the macbook. goodbye psp!
8.Minimal Risk- introducing a whole new gaming console is too much of a big risk to apple. they would not be losing much if they just ordered a huge shipment of graphic cards from a manufacturer. and besides how many of you
would love to upgrade your graphics card for $150?
9. Development Cost- since most consoles are always trying to make their money back from the system on game prices, apple could avoid this pitfall as it allows them not develop any console at all. because of this, game prices will be cheaper.
10. Best of All Worlds- because apple is both great at hardware and software, it is a major advantage that it has over the big three. the big three have made sub-par attempts at making their console into a media center or computer. apple has already done the hard part, all they would need is the graphics card.
Icon driven GUI? Sounds like the Xerox PARC to me. Really. This is just a crazy statement. I realize I'm in the Temple of Apple here, so I usually just kind of observe, but this thread is just out in the twilight zone.
I know most Apple super fanatics imagine a world where everything is produced and sold by Apple and Apple is given credit for everything from penicillin to cold fusion, but come on. Building something in a white box somehow now means you "copied Apple"? And "multimedia" is now the exclusive right of Apple? Despite the fact that MP3 and MP3 players existed well before the iPod and digital audio and video existed (on the PC) before QuickTime was released in 1992? And slot loading?! Slot loading is an "Apple innovation" despite the fact that Apple just buys drives from the OEM like everyone else?
To be honest (and I'm an Apple fan, I'm just ALSO a fan of OTHER tech as well) Apple has had just about ZERO contribution to the game industry outside of the amazingly ill conceived Pippin which was voted one of the worst pieces of hardware ever.
Can you people not just conceed that there are certain areas where maybe OTHER folks are doing something interesting? Jeez what an insult to Nintendo who was resurrecting the game industry while Apple was still cranking out 16 color Apple ][e's
Apple excels at industrial design, marketing and packaging. THATS where their expertise lies. OSX is a great implementation of BSD, granted, and Apple PCs have always been nicely integrated (bit easier when you own the entire stack), but there are other technology companies doing good, innovative, work also - especially in the videogame space.
Icon driven GUI? Sounds like the Xerox PARC to me. Really. This is just a crazy statement. I realize I'm in the Temple of Apple here, so I usually just kind of observe, but this thread is just out in the twilight zone.
I know most Apple super fanatics imagine a world where everything is produced and sold by Apple and Apple is given credit for everything from penicillin to cold fusion, but come on. Building something in a white box somehow now means you "copied Apple"? And "multimedia" is now the exclusive right of Apple? Despite the fact that MP3 and MP3 players existed well before the iPod and digital audio and video existed (on the PC) before QuickTime was released in 1992? And slot loading?! Slot loading is an "Apple innovation" despite the fact that Apple just buys drives from the OEM like everyone else?
To be honest (and I'm an Apple fan, I'm just ALSO a fan of OTHER tech as well) Apple has had just about ZERO contribution to the game industry outside of the amazingly ill conceived Pippin which was voted one of the worst pieces of hardware ever.
Can you people not just conceed that there are certain areas where maybe OTHER folks are doing something interesting? Jeez what an insult to Nintendo who was resurrecting the game industry while Apple was still cranking out 16 color Apple ][e's
Apple excels at industrial design, marketing and packaging. THATS where their expertise lies. OSX is a great implementation of BSD, granted, and Apple PCs have always been nicely integrated (bit easier when you own the entire stack), but there are other technology companies doing good, innovative, work also - especially in the videogame space.
I'd like to see them get more involved in regular gaming, FPS's and MMO's for example. The Mac Pro offers some amazing horse power that would be ideal for a high-end gamer like me, however most games are very, very, PC oriented.