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Apple should shut down the App Store worldwide and force developers to go back to web apps. Why should Apple front the cost of maintaining an ecosystem for developers to mooch off of?

Public pressure will make Epic fold.
That would be an amazing idea! Instead of following the law, fold your own business. That is revolutionary thinking and would bring Apple back to Think Different.
 
I don’t understand why the judge would force this given she previously ruled Apple was within its rights to ban Epic from the store, but it certainly seems she’s already decided she’s going to side with Epic.
Because Apples executives made legally binding statements in court. And breaking these can lead to perjury (also known as foreswearing), and is the intentional act of swearing a false oath or falsifying an affirmation to tell the truth.

So a legal mistake Apple likely didn’t intend to make.

And Epic seems to have caught them in a bind.

Aka allow them on the store= a legal defeat.
Not allow them on the store= commits perjury
 
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Apple should shut down the App Store worldwide and force developers to go back to web apps. Why should Apple front the cost of maintaining an ecosystem for developers to mooch off of?

Public pressure will make Epic fold.
Because it keeps people buying Apple hardware and services. Apple still profits.

Also, Apple can restructure the fee system for developers.
 
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Businesses do that all the time. They’re called “cost centers.” I used to work in one.
sure, but the response "Apple gets $$ from Google and it's plain profit" to the question "iOS dev/mtc doesn't cost anything?"b below is just pure nonsense...

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I dont understand why theres is no issue with Mac Os but apple goes so hard for IOS, make it make sense, greedy a** company
Yes because we did something once one way, then we will do it that way forever.

Back in 1984 then personal computers were just that, home internet connections did not exist on the scale of today so and apps were loaded onto the machine off floppy disk.

Mac OS always had the ability to install software off media and AppStores were not a thing. Is almost impossible to take away something however if never had something in the first place.

Making the argument like that is like the child that complains when they are told off, “that johnny did it” to which the usual answer is “if Johnny jumped off a cliff would you do it?”
 
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Why would you bother? by time you had done that it would be easier to just go to the Spotify site and make the purchase, no?
Ha, sorry my sequence of thought is all messed up. The driver for my question was that Apple denied the Fortnite app submission because it had this external payments system implemented for the US app version - submitted alongside the EU app. Apple requested Epic resubmit their EU version without bundling in the US version for review.

This all got me wondering about exactly what regions Apple are being forced to allow external payments and if it’s only the US App Store. Could global users could just pop onto a US region account and download an app there to dodge purchases through Apple. More of a hypothetical than anything with a real practical purpose right now. It was my mistake to use Spotify as an example, sorry.
 
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I paid for the hardware, software, and the gold plating on Tim Cook’s yacht by the astronomical prices of iPhones
You paid for the hardware and the "gold plating". As has been explained ad nausem here and elsewhere what you did not pay for is the software.
 
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If the judge rules that Apple has to allow Fortnite, it will get overturned. That’s a highly dangerous precedent to force a business to sell a product it doesn’t want to. This would be like a judge telling Walmart it had to sell a particular game or brand of cracker or brand of toilet paper.

Regardless of your thoughts about the other Epic / Apple legal battles, I hope people at least recognize that a government forcing a retail business to sell (give away) a product is anti-democratic.

Edit: Since a few people aren't understanding my comment, here's what I wrote in a different thread about this topic.

Apple doesn't have to allow Fortnite in. [If a judge is going to force Apple to, it's highly likely the ruling will be overturned after more appeals]. The company could exclude any given app for any given reason. A store doesn't have to sell any given product in the world. The store's owners could decide to not sell something just because they don't want to. While reasons might be petty, it is the right of the owners. Similarly, I don't have to allow any given person into my home. I can block people from entering my house for any reason I want to, even if I generally invite most other people in. This is especially true if I had previously invited someone and told them "Here are ground rules" and then that person completely disregards those rules and starts trying to burn my house down.

What this means is that Epic has no inherent right to have any given app in the App Store. Even for something as important as an App Store, I don't think we want Apple to have to allow any given app. I don't want to make a slippery slope fallacy, but if a government could force Apple to have to accept any given app, that's a potentially dangerous situation.
 
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Did the court order requiring Apple to allow third party payment links in apps state that they had to restore the Epic US developer account account?
I don't recall that being mentioned in the news stories about this case.
I’m a lawyer, it didn’t. Seems like this judge is overstepping
 
So EPIC gets banned in 2020 from the App Store for using external payments. 4-5 years later, the courts agree with EPIC to allow external payments, EPIC tries to get back on the App Store since what Apple did was deemed illegal, and now they can't. Seems SHADY AF by APPLE. You can be an Apple fanboy but this is crazy Apple
Epic could have sued without breaking the rules though. That’s where I think they will lose
 
Apple is not a monopoly. This is just getting ridiculous.

It’s their software and the courts do not reserve the right to freely dictate how a company operates.

If you want to make an argument, it’s maybe for the hardware you pay for - not the software you’re not.
I wonder how this is going to affect other companies that have control over the hardware. For instance, Microsoft and the Xbox or Sony and the PlayStation. I have a feeling that the EU is going to force them to stop having a monopoly on games for their platforms
 
Does anyone here on MacRumors play Fortnite?
I play it a good bit on my gaming pc, would love to be able to play it on my M4 Max. I probably wouldn't play it much on my phone, but maybe that will open to the door to it coming back on Mac? We do already have FN Mac Assistant which allows us to play the iPad one, but its a lot of fiddling.
 
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