Try putting the authentication code after your password. Usually that'll work for older devices.
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Apple Migrating iOS 11 and macOS High Sierra Users With Two-Step Verification to Two-Factor Authentication
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Try putting the authentication code after your password. Usually that'll work for older devices.
This is so overdue. The names of the two are very similar, and yet one is more secure -- and if you're still on Two-Step Verification, you don't get prompted to upgrade. As long as one is using devices that support it, I can't imagine why they don't prompt every user to change to the more secure method.
CarlJ
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I got the same email, and it made me happy - I've long known that there were two methods, and the newer one was better, but never kept track of which was the new one (it wasn't especially clear from the names), and I'd read somewhere that switching involved shutting the old one down (potentially breaking some things) and then enabling the new one. Was happy to learn that the upgrade to iOS 11 (and friends) in the fall will just automagically upgrade to two-factor everywhere. Agreed that this article explains it nicely.
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You mean... London and England and Great Britain and the UK aren't all the same thing? Learn something new every day.
At least you didn't tell us what those bugs were, etc. But nonetheless, I guess it's good to know that you have problems and are frustrated.
ipedro
macrumors 604
I just authenticated an iPhone 3G with Two Factor. It's simple. Just add the authentication code to the end of your iCloud password. No spaces.
I really like that Apple is pursuing the privacy and security angle. It really does set them apart from Google who has no choice but to continue looking at your data because that's their entire business model.
When I moved to Macs from the PC world, I felt like I was driving a tank through the internet. No longer did I have to fear getting a virus. I knew that my Mac wouldn't get a Windows virus. I feel the same way with iOS although the remaining fear was that in the cloud era, my data was vulnerable to hacking. I no longer feel that way now that I've moved to two factor and randomly generated passwords. Nothing is 100% secure but this is as good as it gets.
PBG4 Dude
macrumors 601
Could you make your main account a family account, then add the old account as a family member in order to more easily access purchases on that account?
I have an old account with a non-Apple email, and I have zero issues. I've been using this for a few months now, after switching from the older version.
pubwvj
macrumors 68000
This over authentication trend is tiresome. What is worse is when they assume that you have a cellphone. Not everyone has a cellphone and not everyone who has a cellphone has cell service at home. There are large swaths and many pockets of the USA without cell service. The US Social Security office now requires you to have a cellphone to do this sort of authentication where they text a code to your phone that you are then supposed to enter on your computer at their web site. There is no other way. I talked with their 'customer' service and they said that they're getting a lot of complaints about this and will fix it 'soon' but that was last year.
Yes, as others have noted, you can use Two-Factor Authentication with just one Apple device. However, you do end up with all your eggs in a single basket unless you add a second trusted phone number (such as a land line or family member's phone). For example, if you lose your phone, you'll have an alternate way to setup a replacement phone. (A second trusted number isn't a bad idea even if you do have more than one Apple device.)
You don't need a cell phone with this. It works with iPads, macs, iPod Touch, and iPhones. I funny that companies do all the can to protect your data, and people complain.
And someone hacks your Apple ID, you're going to be sorry you disabled it.
The problem with Apple's 2FA implementation is if you have more than 2 devices in your home, you cannot tell which device is trying to login to enter the authentication code. I have 4 ATVs, 4 iOS devices, and 1 rMBP spanning 3 floors. When power momentarily goes out, all the ATVs all try to log back in at once, then when you do find the correct device to enter the authentication code, you have to login with your Apple ID on all your other devices after every successful 2FA. It's like the "Wack-A-Mole" game.
RobinInOR
macrumors 6502a
I can never get it to set up reliably. If I use my cell phone number for the message, then I can't get it when I'm home because I don't have cell service, and Verizon wifi calling doesn't pass through SMS messages. I can't use my home phone because I can't answer that when I am at work. If I try using my Apple ID I get the wack-a-mole as well, it just doesn't work. Still haven't figured out a setup that will work from home without cell service and at work with cell service. Have atv, MBP, and 1 iPad that stays at home, 1pad that I travel with, and a cell phone that only works at work.
PBG4 Dude
macrumors 601
It doesn't work via text. A dialog box comes up pointing out the location of the request on a map, and if you tap/click Allow, a new dialog box replaces the first one with a 6 digit code. You need an internet connection to get this data, not a phone number.
It looks like this will be a requirement as of June 15th, according to some developers issuing updates to their applications on MacOS.
And if you don't have internet, you can still get a 6 digit code from a trusted device.
danmart
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iDento
macrumors 65816
I won't use this as long as they're assuming that I have a cellphone. I have one now, but I can see myself without one soon as the future is internet calls, I mean I can make intentional video calls for free over wifi why would I use a cellphone?
I appreciate that they're trying to make our data more secure, just no this way. They might use Touch ID, or allow me to set it up like iCloud Keychain for instance.
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For Apps that use iCloud to save/backup data or sync, it won't be a requirement.
I appreciate that they're trying to make our data more secure, just no this way. They might use Touch ID, or allow me to set it up like iCloud Keychain for instance.
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It will be a requirement for apps that access iCloud data from the server side 🙄 , like Outlook or any email app that needs access to your iCloud account.
For Apps that use iCloud to save/backup data or sync, it won't be a requirement.
RobinInOR
macrumors 6502a
I just tried setting it up, and it totally screwed it up. I've got my phone and an iPad here at work. It seemed to work for my iPad, my phone gave me the map and then code, but then the phone needed a verification code and my iPad locked up and wouldn't give it to me. Have no idea what my other iPads and tv and MBP were doing at home , if anything. So I turned it all off again and will try later when all my devices are in one place.
And now my husband is mad because I had to change my Apple ID password and it's asking for it on the tv lol, he can't watch anything 🙂