Apple Mini-LED Display Supplier Says Demand Shrinking As Rumors Suggest Transition to OLED in Coming Years

[MacRumors]

One of Apple's leading mini-LED suppliers says demand for displays in consumer products is shrinking while demand for mini-LED in other use cases is rising as Apple eyes a transition to move its iPad and MacBook line to OLED displays in the coming years.

A new report from DigiTimes today cites industry sources within Epistar, which has been providing mini-LED displays to Apple for some time, saying that demand for mini-LED displays for use in consumer electronic devices is decreasing and that it expects demand for mini-LED displays for use in dashboards and displays for vehicles to spike in 2023.

A report last week suggested Samsung is now prioritizing the development of specific types of OLED displays that Apple plans to use in upcoming iPad Pro models. According to reports, Apple is expected to announce the first iPad Pro with an OLED display in 2024, which has sparked mini-LED suppliers to eye other applications for its displays, according to DigiTimes.

Alongside an OLED iPad Pro, Apple is also rumored to launch a 13-inch MacBook Air with an OLED display in 2024. Apple is also considering using an OLED panel in an upcoming iPhone SE refresh, but the company is debating between using an LCD or OLED display, according to reliable display analyst Ross Young.

Article Link: Apple Mini-LED Display Supplier Says Demand Shrinking As Rumors Suggest Transition to OLED in Coming Years

 

[Le0M]

Apple didn't move to OLED in a long time because these displays degrade faster than LCD. Then why is Apple now considering to switch?

 

[Bustycat]

Apple didn't move to OLED in a long time because these displays degrade faster than LCD. Then why is Apple now considering to switch?

Then you can buy more frequently.

 

[Bonte]

No need for OLED unless the technique improved a lot, miniLED is more than capable for the current form factors.

 

[Skyscraperfan]

Don't OLED displays still have the problem of a low peak brightness? iPads are often used in bright environments.

 

[Bustycat]

No need for OLED unless the technique improved a lot, miniLED is more than capable for the current form factors.

They are quite different. OLED itself can be a panel but miniLEDs are just backlights.

 

[jmho]

OLED has improved a lot. Especially QD-OLED, which Samsung says won't burn in and also can hit 1000+ nits.

They've already started making QD-OLED computer monitors which they wouldn't do if burn in was still a huge problem.

 

[madmin]

I wants mini-cooper-LED in product red

 

[MayaUser]

its Digitimes, they need some made up stories to make a buck
from mini-led you cannot go to oled for pro laptops until micro-led, at least for the pro laptops...the macbook air i can see it going oled
They can improve the mini-led with even more diming zones, the max number of dimming zones is the total pixels count of each display

 

[MayaUser]

OLED has improved a lot. Especially QD-OLED, which Samsung says won't burn in and also can hit 1000+ nits.

They've already started making QD-OLED computer monitors which they wouldn't do if burn in was still a huge problem.

thats why the pros still are not using oled, because of static pixels and especially that blue pixels fades away in 1 year top
oled until micro-led cannot overcome the blue fading pixels, its a limit of the tech

 

[leman]

OLED will be used on consumer Apple products, mini-LED on prosumer ones. Apple needs HDR across the board, sufficiently bright OLED is a “cheap” way to get there. But it won’t replace miniLED and local dimming any time soon. Next evolutionary step is then micro-LEDs which will replace both.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I’m ready for that OLED iPad 16” Display.

 

[Bonte]

They are quite different. OLED itself can be a panel but miniLEDs are just backlights.

Ah, so it can be thinner? That explains a lot.

 

[Jeo_cz]

Don't OLED displays still have the problem of a low peak brightness? iPads are often used in bright environments.

Absolutely not. E.g. OLED displays in iPhone 14 Pro have 2000 nits peak brightness.

 

[goobot]

OLED will be used on consumer Apple products, mini-LED on prosumer ones. Apple needs HDR across the board, sufficiently bright OLED is a “cheap” way to get there. But it won’t replace miniLED and local dimming any time soon. Next evolutionary step is then micro-LEDs which will replace both.

More like oled on apples entire line up and cheap mini-led displays for business customers entirely different from apple

 

[George Dawes]

I'm waiting for true micro led , oled has burn in issues even now , avoid

 

[jmho]

I have an LG C2 OLED next to my Pro Display XDR, and 16" miniLED MacBook Pro and the OLED absolutely destroys them both in terms of picture quality when watching films and TV.

If burn in is solved then I can't wait for OLED.

 

[TheOldChevy]

I like my current screen (MacBook Pro 14" M1), no need for fragile OLED.

 

[Maigrais]

I like this news. On iPad Pro devices, evidently no argument there. Where else do you go from the current 12.9-inch powerhouse ?

 

[alpi123]

Absolutely not. E.g. OLED displays in iPhone 14 Pro have 2000 nits peak brightness.

OLED displays on phones are vastly different than those on monitors/TV, one reason being the size. I urge you to find a bigger OLED that sustains beyond 500 nits.

On a side note, there's already new kinds of OLED panels like QD-OLED that can help with the brightness and burn in issues, I'm sure Apple won't just use regular OLED.

 

[Leon Ze Professional]

OLED will be used on consumer Apple products, mini-LED on prosumer ones. Apple needs HDR across the board, sufficiently bright OLED is a “cheap” way to get there. But it won’t replace miniLED and local dimming any time soon. Next evolutionary step is then micro-LEDs which will replace both.

^^^ This

Macbook Air / iPads and all other consumer products will = OLED panels.

Macbook Pro [14 & 16] inch and all other prosumer products will = mini-LED panels.

 

[AndiG]

I like OLED on my TV, while Samsungs QLED is much brighter and would be my favorite choice today. But my TV recalibrates the OLED every now and then and runs some repair programs over night.

On a notebook/computer, the content remains static for hours or even days, weeks or months (at least certain areas). Has Apple/Samsung fixed the problems with OLED display burn-in?

 

[Radon87000]

OLED will be used on consumer Apple products, mini-LED on prosumer ones. Apple needs HDR across the board, sufficiently bright OLED is a “cheap” way to get there. But it won’t replace miniLED and local dimming any time soon. Next evolutionary step is then micro-LEDs which will replace both.

I would say it’s the opposite. OLED is far superior to MiniLED in HDR as it has effectively millions of dimming zones vs; 2500 on the MiniLED making for a much more impressive contrast ratio. Yes it isn’t as bright but it doesn’t need to hit the same brightness due to higher perceived contrast. This is a-art from the much better Color volume OLED provides especially QD OLED

I have an OLED monitor, OLED TV AMD a MiniLED iPad and in the dark the OLED just crushes the MiniLED.

 

[Radon87000]

OLED displays on phones are vastly different than those on monitors/TV, one reason being the size. I urge you to find a bigger OLED that sustains beyond 500 nits.

On a side note, there's already new kinds of OLED panels like QD-OLED that can help with the brightness and burn in issues, I'm sure Apple won't just use regular OLED.

I have been using my QD OLED PC monitor for nearly a year from Dell and have yet to see any burn in.

 

[0924487]

Don't OLED displays still have the problem of a low peak brightness? iPads are often used in bright environments.

iPhone 14 Pro max and Apple Watch Ultra can go 2000 nits.