Apple Mixed-Reality Headset on Schedule for Early 2023, Lighter Second-Gen Version With Call Capabilities Coming in 2024

[RSB96]

link?

It was said by Ming-Chi Kuo, obviously Apple has not said anything.

I still don't see the potential of the metaverse, put on a pair of glasses and isolate yourself from the bad of reality to spend what limited money you have on an unreal world? I don't know, I still don't see a real use for it.

It may be fine to visualize "your new house", or to get into "your new car", it may be cool to play videogames in an immersive world, but I don't see any sense to be working 8 hours with a pair of glasses isolated from the world.

I keep saying that people, in general, don't like to wear glasses and pay hundreds or thousands of dollars in surgeries so they don't have to wear glasses. How are you going to convince these people how "cool" it is to wear glasses that isolate you from the world?

I even have a hard time understanding the usefulness of having AR glasses, which can give us contextual information of reality, and not completely isolate us as with VR glasses, I have an even harder time making it appealing to the general public to put on VR glasses.

For work? I said it in previous posts, at least in Europe we are going back to working face-to-face, because they are progressively taking teleworking away from us.

To surf the internet and spend money on things that don't exist with real money?

I find it hard to see it useful to most people, no matter how many collaborative and work-sharing functions in a metaverse they have. I don't see them making sense for most people, because I still think that people are annoyed by glasses, that's why 3D failed (apart from being terrible). And I don't think weight is a factor against it (3D glasses don't weigh more than normal glasses), it's just that people don't want to wear glasses. In fact, at least where I live, most people passed on 3D, apart from the fact that it made many people dizzy, because they were simply "lazy" to put on glasses to watch a movie.

I think it may have its niche in video games, in companies that work 100% remotely, and that meetings are held in the "metaverse", but I see them useful for specific things, meetings and collaboration sessions with other workers, but I do not see them to be 8 hours with them on.

I do not believe that people have the ability to "multitask" enough to be in the living room watching a movie or series and working with AR glasses on, or cleaning the house while you work. We are not so "multitasking" to do certain things at the same time.

We'll see how they sell it, what they offer, and at what price. But we already know that the price will be high (3000 dollars, which in Europe will be 3500 euros or even more). No matter how much they want to lower the following year, I doubt that they will even cost as much as an iPhone "15 Pro", because they will surely exceed 1500 dollars.

And I think it will be very difficult to make people see how "cool it will be to wear glasses". They will convince the most "geeks", the press, they will say they are wonderful... but the public will be the one who will sentence this new technology, as it already did with other technologies such as 3D TVs or, even at Apple, failures such as 3D Touch, the TouchBar or the original HomePod.

 

[mw360]

I keep saying that people, in general, don't like to wear glasses and pay hundreds or thousands of dollars in surgeries so they don't have to wear glasses. How are you going to convince these people how "cool" it is to wear glasses that isolate you from the world?

I don't see them making sense for most people, because I still think that people are annoyed by glasses, that's why 3D failed (apart from being terrible). And I don't think weight is a factor against it (3D glasses don't weigh more than normal glasses), it's just that people don't want to wear glasses. In fact, at least where I live, most people passed on 3D, apart from the fact that it made many people dizzy, because they were simply "lazy" to put on glasses to watch a movie.

And I think it will be very difficult to make people see how "cool it will be to wear glasses".

 

[svish]

Looking forward to the new product!!

 

[Mike WA4D]

I’d be interested to find out what other use cases they’d be pitching for this product apart from gaming.

You’re brighter than that. Only one’s imagination limits use cases. They are many.

The transition will be slow—but I’m betting it (or some future iteration) will be transformative.

The DoD has a $20 billion dollar Mixed Reality HoloLens contract for combat infantry. Like all new concept big Defense contracts it has been problematic . How will they use this?

Compass heading in Display at all times..
Instant tactical messages from the Platoon Sgt.
Silent orders in a Hot Ao—(Noise discipline matters)
Instant map display and GPS identifiers
Immediate Targeting Data sent to Indirect Fire artillery assets
“ WTF. The Lt’ wants us to hump up that hill and see what’s up there!”
No need for that— Pull a butterfly size drone out of your breast pocket and throw it up in the air and let it fly up above the 500 meter hill so you dont have to struggle and avoid trip wires, ambush and make incredible amounts of noise getting there.——— Everyone on the squad views the Drone Recon—
Data feeds and updates on friendly tactical teams operating in the same AO
In bound status of dust off
Visual Map displays of Tactical Air assets on Station
Night vision unlike ever known
Heat signature functionality for identifying concealed enemy combatants or armor
real Time Video of Wounded personnel— for medical (in the absence of Medic) The Army does some of the best training iin the world on immediate lifesaving methods.— But emergency medicine in your headset will be a lifesaving backup
I can even envision a future option where a Data stream from a combat headset will be sent to a Satellite for global dissemination— an algorithm will decide on the best weapon response launch and forget— Target destroyed. Yes there’s a whole lot of ugly things wrong with that scenario. But the point is… It’s coming.

That is to name just a few features.

Now for the downside… It’s a distraction. The point man is going to wear this thing? call me worried.
They’ll malfunction. They’ll require lots of training and practice. Units will have Holo profiles that allow certain use features under specific conditions. All that will get resolved. Deployed in small units these headsets will be a “force multiplier”.

That’s all a single use example. As a combat tool. (Yes yes, there will be squealing about this. And legitimately so. but it’s going to happen.)

How about those Coaches we see sitting in the booth at a Football game with their playlists and Comm’s to the head coach on the sideline.— Lots of creative ways for Mixed reality in that space.

I’m excited about the possibilities.

 

[ericwn]

You’re brighter than that. Only one’s imagination limits use cases. They are many.

The transition will be slow—but I’m betting it (or some future iteration) will be transformative.

The DoD has a $20 billion dollar Mixed Reality HoloLens contract for combat infantry. Like all new concept big Defense contracts it has been problematic . How will they use this?

Compass heading in Display at all times..
Instant tactical messages from the Platoon Sgt.
Silent orders in a Hot Ao—(Noise discipline matters)
Instant map display and GPS identifiers
Immediate Targeting Data sent to Indirect Fire artillery assets
“ WTF. The Lt’ wants us to hump up that hill and see what’s up there!”
No need for that— Pull a butterfly size drone out of your breast pocket and throw it up in the air and let it fly up above the 500 meter hill so you dont have to struggle and avoid trip wires, ambush and make incredible amounts of noise getting there.——— Everyone on the squad views the Drone Recon—
Data feeds and updates on friendly tactical teams operating in the same AO
In bound status of dust off
Visual Map displays of Tactical Air assets on Station
Night vision unlike ever known
Heat signature functionality for identifying concealed enemy combatants or armor
real Time Video of Wounded personnel— for medical (in the absence of Medic) The Army does some of the best training iin the world on immediate lifesaving methods.— But emergency medicine in your headset will be a lifesaving backup
I can even envision a future option where a Data stream from a combat headset will be sent to a Satellite for global dissemination— an algorithm will decide on the best weapon response launch and forget— Target destroyed. Yes there’s a whole lot of ugly things wrong with that scenario. But the point is… It’s coming.

That is to name just a few features.

Now for the downside… It’s a distraction. The point man is going to wear this thing? call me worried.
They’ll malfunction. They’ll require lots of training and practice. Units will have Holo profiles that allow certain use features under specific conditions. All that will get resolved. Deployed in small units these headsets will be a “force multiplier”.

That’s all a single use example. As a combat tool. (Yes yes, there will be squealing about this. And legitimately so. but it’s going to happen.)

How about those Coaches we see sitting in the booth at a Football game with their playlists and Comm’s to the head coach on the sideline.— Lots of creative ways for Mixed reality in that space.

I’m excited about the possibilities.

That’s certainly NOT the use case Apple have in mind with their product though. It’s a different product made for a specific - non mainstream - audience. I’m really looking for where this has that iPhone-like impact on us everyday individuals.

 

[Mike WA4D]

Looking forward to the new product

That’s certainly NOT the use case Apple have in mind with their product though. It’s a different product made for a specific - non mainstream - audience. I’m really looking for where this has that iPhone-like impact on us everyday individuals.

I use the Military application of the Holo Lens as an example. You spend all your time telling us what you “cannot” envision. Not what is possible. Viable. Or Not. Are you a parent?

the good news generally speaking is that the most advanced deployments and uses of technology are in the Military sector. As it should be. They have a can-do attitude and a vital mission. Unlike the many complaining consumers here.

 

[ericwn]

I use the Military application of the Holo Lens as an example. You spend all your time telling us what you “cannot” envision. Not what is possible. Viable. Or Not. Are you a parent?

the good news generally speaking is that the most advanced deployments and uses of technology are in the Military sector. As it should be. They have a can-do attitude and a vital mission. Unlike the many complaining consumers here.

Attempts at downplaying what I wrote are entertaining but I come here to state my honest opinion. If you have a use case at hand that you see the general population pick up thats anywhere close to the adoption of smartphones, I’m interested in seeing it. But I’m sure if you’d had that vision, you’d let us know.

outside of gaming, how do you pitch this to the people?

 

[return2sendai]

Do we really need a VR headset? Should be interesting to see if this will take off, or just be a fad like 3D TVs were.

Aren’t all TVs 3D?

 

[iQuit]

 

[iQuit]

this is the future.