Just because it doesn't drastically look different doesn't mean that it's the same design. It's certainly much more similar to the previous design than the numbered updates have been in the past, but it's not the same design.
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Apple Moves Q4 2016 Earnings Call to October 25 Due to Scheduling Conflict
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Add to that a lot of people that decided against a Samsung phone due to explosion risk....
Same like the iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS?
or same like the iPhone 4, 4s, 5, and 5s?
We're likely all shareholders; and it remains a good quarter for all but those who speculated too late for a short term rise in share price.
Thursday Oct 27th Mac event from the new Apple Spaceship HQ event center?
Tuesday Oct 25th earnings with no reason to preview Mac updates during the call.
Tuesday Oct 25th earnings with no reason to preview Mac updates during the call.
A company Apple's size making $8 million in 12 weeks isn't stellar. I think you meant Billion
Haha. Yep. Of course I did. Original post edited.
Localytics, based on web usage http://bgr.com/2016/10/03/iphone-7-vs-iphone-6s-sales/
"Same design": nobody cares, and it's not related to 2 years update cycles.
That would indeed be magical -- also criminal -- since the numbers are from the quarter that ended in Sep and also because Tuesday comes before Thursday, so Apple has 2 fewer days to prepare not more.
From the same website:
"One other interesting thing to keep in mind is that the iPhone 7 launched in 29 countries which is almost three times the number of markets that got the iPhone 6s on launch weekend."
So not an accurate comparison at all.
Some people clearly care that it's the same design, because numerous posters on this site have stated they are holding out for the next iPhone.
It has ben moved from the 27th to the 25th... how exactly that would allow for more sales?
And even if it was the other way around do you really think 2 days difference would suffice?
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Also, it's not like they are reporting sales up to that very minute the results are announced. The figures will be up to a fixed date sometime a few days / weeks prior. This is just a press conference to announce the numbers at that fixed point in time.
Design: Google picked the iPhone 6 design for their new Pixel. If this does not speak volumes, I don't know what else. Also, the design is not "the same", it's been tweaked in the most criticized areas.
As for the accurate comparison: on one side, there were more countries, but the most requested color was completely unavailable; also, the 7+, which is now selling better than the normal 7, was completely missing from the physical stores, and in very scarce supply.
Considering that the iPhone installed base is now massively bigger than one year ago, 3.6% is huge (it already passed the iPhone SE).
I will revisit this post in the evening of October, 25th.
Did they schedule it for a later date? Read the article before you make conspiracy theories.
Any chance we get clues on watch sales? Or will this go in the other direction where they stop giving counts even for the phone and focus solely on financial numbers and not unit counts? Looking forward to see what the spin is this time around, but I do hope to hear another profitable quarter, otherwise we will have big problems.
This is just the date of the public call. The sales are based on quarters and the end of the quarter is fixed and unrelated to the date of the call.
And even if they could cheat like that, how would they get more sales from moving the announcement earlier?
If you're honestly expecting a "dismal" quarter, sell. Or short.
Maybe, but the design is very similar and could be considered a 6SS by many so the power of the 2 year cycle is still not in effect. Remember that new hardware design is what is driving mostly the cycle because there is no more 2 year contracts for almost anyone. Many just trade back at the year and get the new one now w the new programs so it's not necessarily correct to say that you can base it on increased user base when trading back models to stores is the norm. Before people resold them after two years to other people and the old phone increased the user base, but now that is not happening as much. Third party to third party Non company resell of used cellphones is in decline.
Come on, it's a 6SS. It has as much change as an S model vs original has.
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It's not that many. Most of the ones that wanted it had it or where waiting for their order to be delivered. They will all get the fixed phone. There was no return of cost for the recall.
And yet it has more changes than an S model has which basically almost don't have external changes. 2 and 1 might be close numbers by let's not pretend that they are the same number because they are close.
Sure if you are counting the removal of hardware like the headphone port. It's more or less the same in terms of changes. It's a 6SS not a new hardware design.
Changes in external hardware are changes in design. Certainly more than what any S model has had.
There wasn't a change in design .
it was a refresh. It's what car companies do.
the S series had cpu and hardware updates.
Apple bought time with the iphone 7 so expect the iphone 8 to be a true hardware refresh
So, just to make sure, you are saying there weren't changes in the external hardware (well beyond what any S model has had)?