Everyone (OK I haven't read all 10 pages, but most in the beginning anyway) in this thread is missing the point, the point isn't to extract more money (though I'm sure there will still be idiots who feel they just must have the developer betas for some reason, and sign up to the developer program for that), but the purpose is quite obviously to rein in people running developer betas when they shouldn't be, simple as that. The public beta program still has a purpose, they won't cancel that, but it's not the same purpose the developer beta serves, and they probably exercise more care when shipping the public beta builds, considering it'll impact "regular" people more than the developer builds.
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Apple Moves to Prevent iPhone Users From Getting iOS 17 Developer Beta for Free
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Let's be serious, I don't think YouTubers will be stopped by the 99$/year fee. They pay 1.000$ for the phone, right?
Is there even going to be anything exciting in this year's iOS update? The only thing I could see was support for the rumored AR/VR headset, and unless you've got an actual headset to play with, that's not going to be particularly thrilling. 😅
This isn’t going to stop them because it’s a tax deductible business expense which generates ad revenue. Apple doesn’t want to stop them from reporting on the beta, they just want to make sure everyone who does so pays the fee.
YouTubers bought the $20,000 Mac Pro just to make videos on it.
They literally bought every specification of the new MacBook Pro and Mac mini just to test the SSD speeds.
I don’t think they’re too fussed about a $99 developer account.
Chances are they probably already have one.
Any video they make in general and Any video they make about the beta is instantly going to pay for that developer account, so they don’t care about this.
Also, most of these Youtubers literally go to the developers conference.
There will be absolutely no shortage of videos about the iOS 17 beta.
I’m still waiting for iOS 16 to be released. 🙄
I get what you’re saying, but let’s be real. Half of iOS 17 is looking like all the stuff they didn’t finish up for 16. I’d be completely happy with a boring iOS 17 Snow Leopard type of release. Problem is the market (Wall Street) won’t let them.
I guess you were not around back when Apple charged $1500 per year to be in the Developer program. Buying MPW (no Xcode back then) cost another $700 and up.
Volunteers on the Apple Discussion Forums are always fielding questions from users wanting to know how to back out of a beta release because of problems.
This would be less of an issue if people would wait for the public beta. Most of the showstopper issues are worked out by then.
But noooooo, gotta have it right away.
This likely to stop the hoards of idiots who inundate Apple Stores and Apple Support when their iPhones don’t behave well after putting a developer beta on their devices. I’ve seen it from personal experience.
You’re not looking at this from Apple’s perspective. Apple can’t stop people from not posting negative reviews by, ahem, encouraging them to be quiet or lose their developer account if those people aren’t developers. Likewise, once the public beta is released, Apple can say, “We love it when our customers share their experience with us,” and then ignore their feedback as “duplicate report” or “insufficient detail,” knowing most of the public will never follow-up. By restricting this but keeping the public beta for program, Apple can maintain secrecy over software while also claiming they are very open and responsive to public feedback.
But this can happen on Public too. People just want early access with no intention of reporting and no idea of the possible dangers. And then there can be people who have betaed stuff for years/decades and are good and know the dangers but don't want to develop. Let them in with a lower fee just to help beta but no dev tools.
Because not everyone just wants early access. There are users who test and report.
Yea like my dad. Problem for him was the jobs were only in big cities after he was laid off, and he didn't want to move
That’s what they do tho. I talked to support once regarding an issue (unrelated to the beta) and they literally stopped supporting me once I mentioned what version I am using and asked me to restore to a released version before they could assist me further
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I‘m part of the public beta. I’ve had no issues when I’ve installed it on my iPhone. This just seems like a few complaining because oh no they can’t put beta software on their phone the minute Apple announces it. Apple’s evil because someone couldn’t play around with the new lock screen features on day one. Wah.
Once again MacRumors with a very misleading headline, Public betas will be free, as a Developer I have no issues paying the $99 or $129 cnd ,for the beta , Worth it for me to test my apps well in advance and learn some new swift ui language , even 16.4 and Xcode 14.3 beta has some new swift commands that make it easier ... Sign up for the Public beta its still free and pretty much the same beta as the developers we just get the initial release earlier ...
Nothing to see MacRumors move along
Also have you seen how many people complain on Reddit that don't know how to go back to release ios after they have installed a beta , quite annoying actually asking for help, when they mess with betas without knowing the consequences sometimes..
Nothing to see MacRumors move along
Also have you seen how many people complain on Reddit that don't know how to go back to release ios after they have installed a beta , quite annoying actually asking for help, when they mess with betas without knowing the consequences sometimes..
Anyone one can learn and start coding through Xcode , doesn't cost $99 , if you want to publish an app and get on the store well that will cost you the $99 , frankly its not a big deal , when I started developer program was well over $500 but you got a pretty good hardware discount ,still rather pay the developer fee ...
It’s not about bug reporting it’s about wanting access to the latest shiny object as soon as Apple announces it. They play around with it for a few minutes and move on (or uninstall it).
As I noted last week in our thread about the 16.4 beta, I have always hated that people are getting for free what we are paying for. And the people who are getting it from one of these websites are getting it without providing any value at all. So I totally approve of this movement. But I hope that Apple remembers that some of us have more than one Apple ID. I use one for iCloud and a different one for the App Store, with a third one for the developer beta. Right now they only support two id’s on the phone.