People saying this is just a way for Apple to make more money make no sense. Do you really think they expect people to pay $100/year just to download betas?
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Apple Moves to Prevent iPhone Users From Getting iOS 17 Developer Beta for Free
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The more beta users the better. This is about money, and without developers Apple wouldn't make their billions off the App Store. Of course they don't recognize that because if there's a buck to be made, open wide.
Silly move that has no net positive for Apple. If the kids want to install iOS betas then let them have their fun. 🙄
Not that long ago I was one of the cool kids with the MacOS developer betas on my Mac too 🥲
Not that long ago I was one of the cool kids with the MacOS developer betas on my Mac too 🥲
There will be big features don't listen to mark gurman or anyone who says that iOS 17 is a minor update it's not.
Seems like the wrong move. I would’ve thought having a larger user base sharing crash logs would’ve been useful.
he is mostly right, why do you think this, we have had zero leaks and if there was anything big we would hear about it
By far the most sensible response on this thread. Others are mostly speculating about a step that we know little about so far, let alone the reasons behind it.
I mean, the regular releases nowadays don’t feel much different from beta. In ancient times, you’d actually have to pay for the non-beta.
Its probably be a big surprise didn't apple say there will be less leaks about upcoming iOS updates
Don’t see why anyone should care about this. If they eliminated public betas, sure, but they aren’t. So why does it really matter? Feels like a lot of artificial angst here over nothing.
That said, I agree with those who said it would be nice to have a clearer picture of what apple will do to triage reported issues. I’ve reported some in the past and very few ever get anything and just sit there. And Apple has acknowledged problems with feedback from apps before as well.
That said, I agree with those who said it would be nice to have a clearer picture of what apple will do to triage reported issues. I’ve reported some in the past and very few ever get anything and just sit there. And Apple has acknowledged problems with feedback from apps before as well.
I used to report issues to Apple, but I've now been reporting the same bug in iTunes/Music for a decade give or take and nothing has changed, so I don't bother anymore.
So nobody can actually explain why this is bad other than Apple announced something therefor it must be bad.
Actually, I suspect the public beta is there to provide pressure on developers earlier to support the upcoming release, or at least create customer pressure for them to evaluate whether their software works on it before public launch.
It is also there specifically to delay installation of beta builds on production hardware on people who do not understand the ramifications of installing betas on production hardware - especially against one's personal iCloud account.
I do find it entertaining that a company that pulled in nearly $400 billion in revenue last year was trying to boost the needle on their services revenue by convincing people to sign up as developers. Huge market for people willing to pay $99/yr and go through identity verfication/tax verification to get on the beta train a month earlier while everything's busted.
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Do you have any statistics on the number of quality bug reports that people without developer accounts file against illegally distributed developer betas vs public betas?
Does the kid that creates an app just for fun really need access to the dev beta?
Kinda a misleading title. This was already changed with the first beta of iOS/IPadOS 16.4. Sure they have switched from beta profiles being installed to use Apple ID permissions which is easier to manage.
That was changed awhile back when that site was forced to remove iOS/IPadOS Dev beta profiles to install. They still visibly show Public Beta profiles, but that will be rendered moot anyway as you can just sign up on Beta.apple.com wen site for that.
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May be related to the relatively new Lockdown Mode. There's no way to install configuration profiles and thus preview builds when Lockdown Mode is enabled.
It is not just YouTubers, it is Tech websites too. My issue is that I typically fall hard for Apple's Event videos. They really know how to get me excited about the littlest things. I've already made my decision by the end of the event lol.
Hmm, this sounds annoying. I use different Apple IDs for my developer account and for my everyday user account.
You can get all the developer tools and documentation, create apps, and distribute them to friends for free.
The $99 really just gives you the ability to publish on the app store.
That's exactly what the public beta programme is for. You're correct that the developer beta programme is for developers to prepare and test their apps for upcoming iOS releases.
huh? what? er... nothing to see here folks wasn't my decision actually anyway peace out 🙏
So why even have a public beta program?