Unfortunately there is a precedent within Apple Music itself. Apple Music for Android has crossfade since a long time ago, whereas there isnt such thing for IOS yet.
Feature parity is really not a strong asset of Apple these days.
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Apple Music Classical: 15 Things You Need to Know About the New App
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Unfortunately there is a precedent within Apple Music itself. Apple Music for Android has crossfade since a long time ago, whereas there isnt such thing for IOS yet.
Feature parity is really not a strong asset of Apple these days.
Even better, Apple Music on Android can set sleep timer right on the app. On iOS, I have to set an actual timer to stop playing, which is unintuitive and out of place from the Music app. Really annoying.
I hope there's an iPad version soon because I'm not an iPhone-based creature -- I'm running an iPhone SE, because I like to be able to put it in my pocket without endangering the seams. It would be disappointing to have to run Apple Classical from only the smallest screen in my place.
Yeah, iPhone-only is definitely the way to go. I really enjoy orchestral/operatic sounds heard on speakers the size of small grains of rice. Would never want this experience on my iPadPro with its four much-larger speakers that offer sound easily equivalent to output from a pair of Wilson Audio WAMMS I’m certain. Or maybe not. Hey, how about adding a headphone jack so I can connect a receiver (say, a Goldmund Telos 5000 or better) and THEN use the WAMMS?
I don’t get it. Just use the music app like you would for every genre of music. The time and effort put into this could’ve been used to fix the many issues Apple’s software already has. I hope they don’t make an app for each genre.
This sentiment has been expressed innumerable times before in this thread and in other threads regarding Apple's Classical app. Also the response to explain this has also been posted as a response innumerable times. You probably haven't seen any of these posts....or you have but just want to express it again.
We know you don't get the significant differences between the classical genre and most others. I won't spend any more time answering this question yet again. Don't worry if you don't get classical music. Many don't understand. It's OK. It's sad that so many will never be able to experience the magic of classical music.
Yeah. The thing that's illogical about Apple is.... the iPad has a larger screen that CAN list and display every goddam track title, composer, artist, performer, symphony movement.... all on the same page, in the same list view. Without having to scroll up, down, sideways, etc.
Can the smaller iPhone screen even display that amount of information on a single view?
When I visit the Apple App Store on an iPad now, searching brings up the Apple Music Classical app ("Coming Soon, Expected Mar 28, 2023") and under Compatibility shows "Works on this iPad."
Perhaps it's coming for the iPad as well, but is not being _optimized_ for the iPad?
Perhaps it's coming for the iPad as well, but is not being _optimized_ for the iPad?
Here it is an excellent, detailed explanation (with screenshots) by a professional cellist and composer as to why having a separate app for classical music specifically is a good thing.
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So when can we have some of these features in regular Apple Music? Would be nice to have an info button so you can find out who the members of a band are, what guest musicians are on it, or who actually wrote the songs.
I miss the days of CDs/Tapes/Vinyl where you can actually know at the very least who played on the songs. Why does classical get to know, but the vast majority of music doesn't?
Recently I had to actually ask who the drummer was on a Chip Wickham song on a Youtube video to actually find out, as Apple Music tells you zero about the record and who's on it. Occasionally if you're lucky it has who wrote it at the bottom of the lyrics at best.
I miss the days of CDs/Tapes/Vinyl where you can actually know at the very least who played on the songs. Why does classical get to know, but the vast majority of music doesn't?
Recently I had to actually ask who the drummer was on a Chip Wickham song on a Youtube video to actually find out, as Apple Music tells you zero about the record and who's on it. Occasionally if you're lucky it has who wrote it at the bottom of the lyrics at best.
Quoting myself because I just read this very, VERY interesting post by James Bowery in a reddit thread:
"In addition to the benefits to the end user described in the twitter thread, there are also benefits to the rights holders of the music.
Most streaming services operate on essentially a pay-per-stream model (not exactly, more like a per-percentage of streams, but close enough). This is fine when most non-classical music is about 2-3 minutes, maybe 10 at most. But it becomes unreasonable when classical music has movements of 20 minutes to an hour+ in length. You need a different business model for those types of tracks.
This is exactly what Apple inherited when they bought out the precursor to AM Classical. This service, basicay, pays per minute (again, not exactly, but close enough). Now, a 20 minute movement can be paid proportionally by time to a 60 minute movement, when before, 1 stream of each would be paid the same".
Because a company named Primephonic worked its butt off to gather that information for its classical music audience, and then Apple bought that data when it bought the company.
I agree that Apple should shovel cash into making its metadata better for *every* genre, but here was at least a way to do it for classical, a genre their own systems are currently worse than useless at.
Now that Apple is touting the high-res lossless capabilities (which they didn't really do with Apple Music when it got it), will they soon have a product or service that supports it? How will Apple leverage hi-res lossless with existing/new products?
- Bluetooth doesn't have enough bandwidth to support high-res, so no Apple Airpods or Beats wireless will do
- On Mac OS, automation resolution switching for USB output isn't supported, so you can't use e.g. Mac Mini as a music streamer to a good external DAC; hi-fi nerds want the source's resolution, no re-sampling in the computer
- You can use e.g. an iPad connected to an external USB DAC via suitable cables, since iOS/iPadOS supports resolution switching, but that solution won't fly for hi-fi nerds. Also not very convenient; no remote control possible
- Apple could allow integration with Roon (as Tidal and Qobuz do), but Apple generally wants to control the experience, so this probably won't happen
- Apple could release a proper Apple Music/Classical streamer with USB/I2S (to high-end DAC's) and HDMI (for multi-channel Dolby Atmos amplifiers) (simple re-model of Apple TV chassis), remote controlled by any Apple device. But such a product would probably not sell in enough volumes to justify the development and support of it
Any more ideas how Apple might leverage hi-res music?
- Bluetooth doesn't have enough bandwidth to support high-res, so no Apple Airpods or Beats wireless will do
- On Mac OS, automation resolution switching for USB output isn't supported, so you can't use e.g. Mac Mini as a music streamer to a good external DAC; hi-fi nerds want the source's resolution, no re-sampling in the computer
- You can use e.g. an iPad connected to an external USB DAC via suitable cables, since iOS/iPadOS supports resolution switching, but that solution won't fly for hi-fi nerds. Also not very convenient; no remote control possible
- Apple could allow integration with Roon (as Tidal and Qobuz do), but Apple generally wants to control the experience, so this probably won't happen
- Apple could release a proper Apple Music/Classical streamer with USB/I2S (to high-end DAC's) and HDMI (for multi-channel Dolby Atmos amplifiers) (simple re-model of Apple TV chassis), remote controlled by any Apple device. But such a product would probably not sell in enough volumes to justify the development and support of it
Any more ideas how Apple might leverage hi-res music?
With no evidence, I view it as a lighthearted comment by Stravinsky, although there is a grain of truth to it.
Actually, look at Stravinsky's output. More than a bit of it is him grafting his stylings on those of other composers.
I can point to a passage in the Rite of Spring that is a paraphrase of a passage in Debussy Nocturnes. It is far from unique.
He literally took works by who he thought was Pergolesi (actually, it was by another composer, but he thought it was Pergolesi), and rewrote them to create Pulcinella. He did things like this more than once.
Then again, so did other composers. Bach reorchestrated works by composers such as Vivaldi to create his own compositions, such as the Bach Concerto for Four Harpsichords (originally by Vivaldi).
In terms of inspiration, just for fun, listen to the John Williams Overture to Star Wars, then listen to the overture to King's Row by Korngold.
Anyway, I look forward to listening to all of this, and more, on Apple Classical. I just hope that it does not remain limited to the iPhone for long. I want the availability of the music, the improved data, and the lossless music sources.
Great post.
Completely agree, but that was the fun and the joy of it before intelectual property rights came along (just kidding, of course). After all, parody in music is a legit, very respected procedure (or was) since centuries ago, particularly used in sacred music. . In other words, its perfectly fine, and allowed. Or it should be. Our modern society value originality way too much, more than the execution itself (the final product), which is crazy to me. Execution is everything. A great idea is nothing without a proper execution.
"I can point to a passage in the Rite of Spring that is a paraphrase of a passage in Debussy Nocturnes. It is far from unique."
Of course. Paraphrasis can be an art in itself, though.
"In terms of inspiration, just for fun, listen to the John Williams Overture to Star Wars, then listen to the overture to King's Row by Korngold."
It was more than inspiration. After Lucas (by Spielberg suggestion) ditched his original idea of using classical music in the film, a la 2001, and decided to employ Williams, he temp tracked the initial sequence of the film with Korngold score for Kings Row, and asked Williams to employ a similar romantic, operatic style.
The rest is history.
"I want the availability of the music, the improved data, and the lossless music sources."
The lossless sources are already available in the regular music app. Plenty of classical music in 24/48 or higher, that I´ve found.
> I miss the days of CDs/Tapes/Vinyl where you can actually know at the very least who played on the songs.
The days of CD and SACD and vinyl are still very much here. Interestingly, it is downloads that have died ... already replaced by streaming. If I like something, I buy it on hi-res SACD (quite strong in classical music) or CD. I use streaming mostly for sampling.
Looks like crap on an iPad
Apple today unveiled Apple Music Classical on the App Store. Here are 15 things you need to know about the new app:
- Apple Music Classical is based on Primephonic, a classical music streaming service that Apple acquired in 2021. The new app leverages Primephonic's playlists and audio content, search capabilities, metadata, and more.
- Apple Music Classical works in tandem with the existing Apple Music app, providing dedicated features to engage with classical music on the Apple Music platform more directly, but with many of the same features like support for Spatial Audio.
- As its name suggests, the app singularly contains classical music, offering over five million tracks, hundreds of curated playlists, and thousands of exclusive albums.
- Apple says that it has been working with classical music artists and institutions to offer exclusive content and recordings in Apple Music Classical, including Hi-Res Lossless and Spatial Audio tracks.
- The app's design is based on Apple Music, but with a simplified UI that heavily uses Apple's New York font instead of SF Pro.
- There is no Radio tab in the Apple Music Classical app, and it is not yet clear if it will support classical Radio Stations from Apple Music.
- The app features a more capable search experience, allowing users to search by composer, work, conductor, catalog number, and more.
- The Now Playing screen has an all-white or all-black background, unlike Apple Music, which generates a background from the currently playing track's album artwork.
- The Now Playing screen features an info button instead of lyrics, providing detailed written descriptions of songs.
- The app features rich composer bios, editorial notes, and detailed information about key works.
- Apple has commissioned unique artwork of famous artists for Apple Music Classical using color palettes and artistic references from the relevant classical period. The first portraits include Ludwig van Beethoven, Frédéric Chopin, and Johann Sebastian Bach, with more to come in the future.
- There is no version of Apple Music Classical for iPadOS, making it an iPhone-only app.
- An Android version of Apple Music Classical is in the works and set to arrive "soon," according to Apple.
- Apple has launched a new Twitter account for Apple Music Classical, @appleclassical, to track news and updates about the app.
- Apple Music Classical is included for free as part of an existing Apple Music or Apple One subscription, but it is not included in the $4.99-per-month Apple Music Voice plan.
Apple Music Classical is now available for pre-order on the App Store and due to be released on March 28, 2023.
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