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Alright, so I need the help of someone with an android phone that also uses itunes on a pc or something. Next thursday I'm planning to get the s7 because that apple event kind of made me decide holding out for the next iphone would disappoint me again like the 5 did. One of the hangups I had was finding a way to play some of the cds I just got from itunes (no laptop), does the apple music app only work if you have a sub, or can you access all the music associated with the id?
 
Hint: I'm paying $15 for a beta

And for access on iTunes (Mac/PC), iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, iPod touch. It's clearly stated throughout the app that it's a beta.

But that doesn't excuse some of the bugs that are present; disastrous, even for a beta. At least for me.
 
And for access on iTunes (Mac/PC), iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, iPod touch. It's clearly stated throughout the app that it's a beta.

But that doesn't excuse some of the bugs that are present; disastrous, even for a beta. At least for me.

It's been in beta for a long while with terrible updates. Beta tag, in this case, is being used to excuse laziness.
 
I'd be quite happy to have this on my Nexus 7 tablet (Which I love!) but isn't compatible. But yet my son can happily have Apple Music on his iPad!
 
The main reason I use Android are home screen widgets. I tried to switch back into iPhone and I immediately started losing track of my events because my agenda wasn't on the front page and I couldn't for the love of Jobs get into the habit of checking notification centre or opening Calendar manually all the time.

This resonates with me. I'm a forgetful person and having my agenda in my face on my homescreen is more helpful than having to remember to launch an app to check it or launch the today view. I don't use a lot of widgets (I only use two) but if I moved back to iPhone, I think absence of a homescreen agenda widget is probably the thing I would miss most about Android.

His point was universal audio playback controls. In android you need separate widgets for each application just to pause and skip tracks. Where as Apples control center can interact with any player. As a result music players on android really need a widget for basic functionality, while on iOS they don't.
There are apps like MU on android that add universal controls. These apps are forced to use hacks like internally spoofing BT controls to pass data back to the players.

Is this really an accurate statement? I can access media controls for every media app I use from the notification drawer (including Apple Music). I don't need a homescreen widget for any media apps. Homescreen widgets are just an additional option for those who want a bit more functionality that the basic controls available in the notification drawer.

Things must be going badly for AM if it's available on e android . No other Apple made apps come to mind that also run on android.

Be interesting to see how many people actually run AM on android.

I think that's a negative viewpoint. I think a huge reason Apple are as successful as they are today is because they made iPods accessible to Windows users when iTunes was made available for Windows. This was a big catalyst for people making further purchases of Apple stuff.

Also if they want to court artists for exclusive deals, they really need a platform that's open to more than 15% of smartphone users worldwide.

Alright, so I need the help of someone with an android phone that also uses itunes on a pc or something. Next thursday I'm planning to get the s7 because that apple event kind of made me decide holding out for the next iphone would disappoint me again like the 5 did. One of the hangups I had was finding a way to play some of the cds I just got from itunes (no laptop), does the apple music app only work if you have a sub, or can you access all the music associated with the id?

It's a good question. I'm not sure of the answer as I'm currently in the middle of my 3 month Apple Music trial so don't know how it behaves without Apple Music subscription. If no one else is able to help on this thread, I'd suggest posting that question in the Alternatives sub-forum.

If Apple Music does not work as you need it to, you always have the option of uploading all your personally-owned music to Google Music (free unless you have a ridiculously large collection) and using Google Music as your player on both iOS and Android. I think this would work with iTunes purchases as they are DRM free as far as I know.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075570?hl=en-GB
 
If Apple Music does not work as you need it to, you always have the option of uploading all your personally-owned music to Google Music (free unless you have a ridiculously large collection) and using Google Music as your player on both iOS and Android. I think this would work with iTunes purchases as they are DRM free as far as I know.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075570?hl=en-GB
Unfortunately I found out that when you enable the premium version Google Music immediately starts destroying your library (not permanently, you just have to disable premium again), replacing your songs with what it thinks should be there. So basically it turns into iCloud.
 
Unfortunately I found out that when you enable the premium version Google Music immediately starts destroying your library (not permanently, you just have to disable premium again), replacing your songs with what it thinks should be there. So basically it turns into iCloud.

I haven't noticed this behaviour, although I'm not particularly fussy about my personal music library so maybe it has happened without me noticing.

There are of course other personal music locker options with cross platform support including Microsoft Groove Music and Amazon Cloud Player.
 
There is no home screen widget for iOS. I have 16GB of space as thats all I could afford, and adding more storage would be absolutely great. It may not be the best experience, but neither is having to buy the most expensive iPhone.

Swipe up - there you go. Control music to your hearts content. As for your storage issue, you made a choice to get 16GB. There are other options that would have probably suited your needs better. Why did you not choose those instead?
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Got the fastest 64GB SD card UHS I Class 10 card capable of 90MB/s read and 45MB/S write. Formated as internal storage with Android 6.0 adoptive storage option. Never had issue. Apps installed and load fast.

While Apple charge you 100 dollar for storage bump... And 200 dollars from 16 to 128GB while I pay 100 dollar for 128GB SD card. Not paying top dollars to Apple while Android offers relative OK and cheap options.

I'm ok with paying top dollar for a device that has all my storage built in. One less thing I have to worry about. I also don't have to worry about someone popping out my SD card and having their way with my data. :)
 
Swipe up - there you go. Control music to your hearts content. As for your storage issue, you made a choice to get 16GB. There are other options that would have probably suited your needs better. Why did you not choose those instead?
No - Not the same thing which others have noted.

I got 16GB as that was what I could afford, I didn't have much of a choice. An SD card would be an ideal solution for me, an inexpensive way to store all my music on my phone.
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I'm ok with paying top dollar for a device that has all my storage built in. One less thing I have to worry about. I also don't have to worry about someone popping out my SD card and having their way with my data. :)

Wouldn't it be great to have a world of choice. I couldn't give a damn if someone took my SD card with my music on it, and surely Apple could encrypt it, however I'm not ok with paying over the top for Apple's storage prices.
 
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Is this really an accurate statement? I can access media controls for every media app I use from the notification drawer (including Apple Music). I don't need a homescreen widget for any media apps. Homescreen widgets are just an additional option for those who want a bit more functionality that the basic controls available in the notification drawer
Yes, it is true that android apps need explicit playback controls per app since there are no universal controls like iOS has. You are correct that notification bar controls are also very common today in addition to widgets. Widgets are the more tradition control method but notification bars are gaining popularity in the last couple of years after Google enhanced custom notifications.
The main point is that it is largely irrelevant in iOS since controls are already baked into the OS for all media player apps.
 
Yes, it is true that android apps need explicit playback controls per app since there are no universal controls like iOS has. You are correct that notification bar controls are also very common today in addition to widgets. Widgets are the more tradition control method but notification bars are gaining popularity in the last couple of years after Google enhanced custom notifications.
The main point is that it is largely irrelevant in iOS since controls are already baked into the OS for all media player apps.

Sufficient universal media controls in iOS mostly fits my experience but with at least one very major exception. I don't get any control center (or lock screen) control of my Sonos app in iOS. Perhaps it has something to do with Sonos not having on-device playback functionality, and this doesn't fit in Apple's definition of what a media app is ????

On Android, I have notification drawer and lockscreen control of Sonos, and could add a homescreen widget if I wish. In this instance at least, the Android way (of presumably giving the developer more control) seems to have given a better end user experience.
 
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Sufficient universal media controls in iOS mostly fits my experience but with at least one very major exception. I don't get any control center (or lock screen) control of my Sonos app in iOS. Perhaps it has something to do with Sonos not having on-device playback functionality, and this doesn't fit in Apple's definition of what a media app is ????

On Android, I have notification drawer and lockscreen control of Sonos, and could add a homescreen widget if I wish. In this instance at least, the Android way (of presumably giving the developer more control) seems to have given a better end user experience.
Sonos is not a media playback app for your phone, and it should not be thought of as such. It is a remote control for another device. In this case Sonos should create a widget for iOS. The solution is there, just waiting to be implemented.
Sonobit is a good third party fix for iOS. Giving good control via a widget or even your watch.
 
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