Apple Music Launching Spatial Audio With Dolby Atmos and Lossless Audio in June at No Extra Cost

[JippaLippa]

Yes it should work just fine assuming you are talking about a wired headphone.

DAC + Wired Headphones team here

 

[Phuz01]

how do you back up with icloud and sync your itunes/music library to your ipad that way?

I just made a Music folder in the local instance of iCloud Drive and set iTunes to point to that drive to manage my library. When I rip a CD into iTunes/Music on my computer, it’s saved in that drive and automatically backed up to the cloud. I then sync my phone/iPad with my computer. It’s also possible to download/play these files from within the Files app, but that doesn’t allow for metadata like incrementing play counts or assigning ratings.

 

[bwayne]

I kind of fuzzed through the 70’s with my Sansui Quadraphonic, albeit with a little help from my friends. Maybe with Spatial it’s time to turn on, tune in, and drop out again.

Tidal has a 70’s Decade list reworked in Dolby Atmos. Hopefully Apple will contribute a lot more with remixes.

 

[odedia]

I had the same issue back when I still had the occasional local files imported into iCloud Music library, all I had to do was edit the files meta data to obscure things and it forced an upload (which you could then „fix“ again in iTunes meta data editor). That did the trick and never replaced the original files with Apples offering.

Interesting. I'll try to do it after the Lossless is available. I wonder if it will upload the Lossless versions to iCloud (most of my weird tracks are not AAC/MP3).

 

[TimFL1]

Interesting. I'll try to do it after the Lossless is available. I wonder if it will upload the Lossless versions to iCloud (most of my weird tracks are not AAC/MP3).

It wont. Lossless is a new format by Apple and it‘s confirmed to be only for Apple Music songs. iTunes Match, iTunes Store purchases and other non-Apple Music titles are exempt.

 

[Lvivske]

I just made a Music folder in the local instance of iCloud Drive and set iTunes to point to that drive to manage my library. When I rip a CD into iTunes/Music on my computer, it’s saved in that drive and automatically backed up to the cloud. I then sync my phone/iPad with my computer. It’s also possible to download/play these files from within the Files app, but that doesn’t allow for metadata like incrementing play counts or assigning ratings.

ok but how do you play on your phone/tablet then? 3rd party program or does music let you point to the icloud folder? this means you need to download your entire library onto each device, right?

 

[Phuz01]

ok but how do you play on your phone/tablet then? 3rd party program or does music let you point to the icloud folder? this means you need to download your entire library onto each device, right?

I use the iTunes/Music app on my computer to sync my library with the Music app on my devices, and I play my library through the Music app. Now that I've re-ripped a lot of it in lossless, my library is too large to fit completely on a 512GB iPhone, so I rely on playlists and rating metadata to determine what syncs to my phone. If I want to listen to a song/album that's not in my Music app library, I can play it directly through the Files app.

 

[DeepIn2U]

DAC + Wired Headphones team here

Unfortunately this isn't a sound solution for those of us wanting to listen to Hi-Fi music from our iPhones. I really want to avoid carrying a bulky item if I can.

 

[nt5672]

What is there to imagine? You might not be aware that sometimes new iPhone/iPad/Mac features require a new OS update.

Copy/paste becoming available with an update to iPhone OS 3.0 comes to mind.

I'm pretty sure copy and paste should not have required new hardware. Of course, I think past my indoctrination.

 

[citysnaps]

I'm pretty sure copy and paste should not have required new hardware. Of course, I think past my indoctrination.

Which was never claimed or even suggested. Try again.

 

[DarthDon]

So they found out what peoples did already for many years. External amp plus good Headphones.

 

[JippaLippa]

Unfortunately this isn't a sound solution for those of us wanting to listen to Hi-Fi music from our iPhones. I really want to avoid carrying a bulky item if I can.

I was speaking of desktop use of course.
When in mobility, I accept the limitations of AAC

 

[JippaLippa]

It wont. Lossless is a new format by Apple and it‘s confirmed to be only for Apple Music songs. iTunes Match, iTunes Store purchases and other non-Apple Music titles are exempt.

I thought the apple format was the "ALAC", wrapped inside the m4a container, and this format is far from being new.

Wanting to play all my files witn the apple music app, I trancoded all my flac files to apple lossless (m4a) while keeping the same bitrate and sampling rate.

I used an open source app called XLD

 

[Lvivske]

hearing that lossless is in 11.5 but you cant listen to it yet, just download

tested that song by The Weekend about the lights, and it shows 'Apple Digital Master' in info but cant play it, and also cant download an AAC version as a substitute if I wanted to. 6.6MB file size.

 

[Lvivske]

anyone take this test?

How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality? : The Record : NPR

I failed miserably, usually picking 320kbps. I got Coldplay right, I think because it had more instruments and layers going on.

I'm much less excited now for this lol

 

[oryan_dunn]

anyone take this test?

How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality? : The Record : NPR

I failed miserably, usually picking 320kbps. I got Coldplay right, I think because it had more instruments and layers going on.

I'm much less excited now for this lol

Yeah, Apple has clearly done this just to fend off Spotify and take away any selling point Tidal/Qobuz/etc. have. Anyone already in the Apple garden and have Apple One will have no excuse to go anywhere else.

AAC is to lossless audio as H265 is to lossless video.

 

[tkermit]

It doesn’t support our own purchases, just for Apple Music -

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394285796123942913

It looks like lossless playback and downloading from Apple Music is possible even for matched songs (albeit with DRM attached, in that case), both on the Mac as well as on iOS. That's actually more than what I was hoping for, since I already figured they wouldn't let you upgrade your purchases for free!

 

[Lvivske]

"Matched AAC" stays AAC for me when I redownload tracks

proof:

Imgur: The magic of the Internet

 

[tkermit]

"Matched AAC" stays AAC for me when I redownload tracks

proof:

Imgur: The magic of the Internet

You need to make sure that the album in your library (not just some version of the album on Apple Music) already has the "lossless" label . This indicates the existence of a lossless match

 

[Lvivske]

ah gotcha, see that now, kinda broken

If I show the album, it doesnt say lossless, but if i click any of the tracks to "Show in Apple Music", it shows the matched tracks are lossless

 

[tkermit]

I just noticed you should also be able to check the song's Get Info window after deleting the download to see if it supports lossless audio. It's definitely a bit confusing though.

 

[Lvivske]

noticing a lot of glitches, i guess to be expected

 

[Lvivske]

even with Dolby always on, Dolby download, and high res checked for everything, its still AAC

ughhhhh