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Yes you mean 13M along with the others that pay for "STREAMING" music. When there are FREE services... I listen to all kinds of music including music from around the world without paying for any streaming service..

Please, enlighten us all of these "free services" you speak of that are on par with the personalization, convenience, and legality of modern paid-for streaming services.
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I do not use or give a damn about Siri.. Also I do not use MP3 files. It is ACC Plus or Apple Lossless..
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Used it all the time...

So you're admitting that there are some features you don't care about? Huh. Ever think that just maybe some people (cough*13 MILLION*cough) do enjoy said features?
 
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So you're admitting that there are some features you don't care about? Huh. Ever think that just maybe some people (cough*13 MILLION*cough) do enjoy said features?

When the service is gone or do not work. The other 20+ million will still have their music on their Mac and PC without losing $120 a year...
 
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Yes you mean 13M along with the others that pay for "STREAMING" music. When there are FREE services... I listen to all kinds of music including music from around the world without paying for any streaming service..
Aw man, that sounds really, really cool. Hey dude, could you hook a brother up with those free services? I would love to get down with that. Especially the world music. The other day I heard a Gregorian chant and I can't get it out of my head. Any help you'd give pointing me towards those free services would be greatly appreciated.
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13 million at at $9.99 per month is $1.5billion per year.

Hardly tiny.
You forgot to subtract the number of people who are on the free trial. They are technically subscribers but aren't shelling out 10 bucks.
 
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You forgot to subtract the number of people who are on the free trial. They are technically subscribers but aren't shelling out 10 bucks.

That's why they define it by "paying" subscribers. Trials do not count since they are not paying.
 
Am I the only person who thinks that iTunes Match is the best invention ever?
Not exclusive to Apple, same features, price on Amazon, others to upload and match your tunes for cloud listening. Apple has a louder voice is all.
 
Happily paying for a family membership worth every penny IMO. The integration with the eco system, apple watch for my workouts, siri, etc all make it worth it. I still dislike itunes on my mac for a lot of things, but Im loving the music app for my phone so far. Start my car, bluetooth automatically connects to iPhone, "Hey siri, play my commute playlist" you just can't beat it imo..
 
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That's why they define it by "paying" subscribers. Trials do not count since they are not paying.
It's not exactly clear because they use "paying subscribers" and "subscribers" interchangeably in the article. Also the article quotes Spotify numbers from last June, seemingly to make the Apple numbers more impressive than they are. The numbers and swiftness of their accumulation are definitely impressive, no doubt. But it seems a heck of a lot more impressive to say they are 7 million subscribers away from Spotify than to say they are 17 million subscribers away from Spotify.
 
Happily paying for a family membership worth every penny IMO. The integration with the eco system, apple watch for my workouts, siri, etc all make it worth it. I still dislike itunes on my mac for a lot of things, but Im loving the music app for my phone so far. Start my car, bluetooth automatically connects to iPhone, "Hey siri, play my commute playlist" you just can't beat it imo..

Another family member here. A bargain at $14.99. It took a bit for it to sink in with my kids that they can pick anything they want to, download it and listen for free. No ads, no limits - just unlimited free music. Previously my kids tried various other free services but hated ads between songs or not being able to skip a song they don't like. Probably why they were surprised at the lack of restrictions on Apple Music.

We have 8 iOS devices with Apple Music on one subscription. Not sure how many family subscriptions there are, but I bet there's a lot more than 13 million iOS devices with Apple Music Subscriptions.
 
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No, I didn't mean that.

If you would like to point me in the direction of legitimate free services with no adverts that seemlessly integrate with my music library and Beats 1 I'm all ears though...
Soma.fm is the only one left that is still totally free and has no annoying adverts.
 
I used Play Music and Apple Music but after much switching back and forth and complaining here I choose Apple Music because it does a better job of blocking the explicit crap then Play Music. For example I search for CeCe Peninston when music was good and Apple Music gives me for Cece a rap crap track F**k you but it censors the word. Play Music shows the actual F word. No good even with explicit music blocked it still shows it and it is even playable. No thanks.

At least with Apple Music searching for CeCe Peninston gives me the right artist and censors the swear unlike Play Music. At least I got three months back for Play Music for complaining about this.

Also Apple Music has way better sound quality 256kbps aac over that old mp3 that other services use.
 
I wonder how many of that 13 million are grandpa/grandmas that forgot or don't know how to turn off the subscription at the end of the trial :D
 
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"13 million? That's very low"

I'll have what they're smoking.
This. 13 million users is still a very large number in an absolute sense, and don't forget that every one of these customers is paying the subscription fee and actually earning Apple a profit.

Compared to Spotify who may have more users on paper, but is still reporting losses. Which do you think is more likely to stay around in the long term?
 
So, no one owns more than one iOS device? Every single iOS device is a single user? No iOS users use their own iTunes library instead of streaming?
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Even if every person owned 10 iOS device then that would only increase % of Apple Music from 1.3 to 13%. Still very meh.
I have one or two albums on the music app but considering the thing is so uncomfortable to use for your personal music I just stream my 20K personal songs that I uploaded for free from google music. I listen to both Google music and Amazon music radios for free.
Tiles are changing and Apple is throwing random strategies at the wall to see what sticks wout taking a chance what's sad it's that Apple has more than enough money to take small chances. Sometimes it feels like Apple is repeating history of failure of pre-jobs return. Time will tell.
 
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You forgot to subtract the number of people who are on the free trial. They are technically subscribers but aren't shelling out 10 bucks.

People on free trials... That extend from last summer until now? Didn't Apple Music launch about 8 or 9 months ago?

You'd be better of focusing on the argument of not everyone pays $10 if ou want to poo poo the numbers. I myself pay the equivalent of $1.60.
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Even if every person owned 10 iOS device then that would only increase % of Apple Music from 1.3 to 13%. Still very meh.
I have one or two albums on the music app but considering the thing is so uncomfortable to use for your personal music I just stream my 20K personal songs that I uploaded for free from google music. I listen to both Google music and Amazon music radios for free.
Tiles are changing and Apple is throwing random strategies at the wall to see what sticks wout taking a chance what's sad it's that Apple has more than enough money to take small chances. Sometimes it feels like Apple is repeating history of failure of pre-jobs return. Time will tell.

How many iPhone users are on Verizon? how many on T Mobile. How many on Vodafone in the UK?

My point being people have choices so achieving full market penetration is difficult. The EU comes down hard on that sort of thing so Apple can't do much more.

It's a big pie to have a slice of. That's the important thing.
 
13 million is tiny, considering the 1 billion plus user base that Apple has.

Apple Music is a waste of time that should never have happened. People will not pay to rent music.
Find I mistakenly like a post. Removed.
Internet is not safety box. Nothing on there is safe. Same as rent model. Unless you only want to listen to it once or so, renting is not a choice.
 
13 million is tiny, considering the 1 billion plus user base that Apple has.

Apple Music is a waste of time that should never have happened. People will not pay to rent music.

You know, I was very reluctant of 'renting' music but Spotify slowly convinced me and now think it's the future. And by the way, Spotify is free, so no payment needed :)
 
People on free trials... That extend from last summer until now? Didn't Apple Music launch about 8 or 9 months ago?

You'd be better of focusing on the argument of not everyone pays $10 if ou want to poo poo the numbers. I myself pay the equivalent of $1.60.
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How many iPhone users are on Verizon? how many on T Mobile. How many on Vodafone in the UK?

My point being people have choices so achieving full market penetration is difficult. The EU comes down hard on that sort of thing so Apple can't do much more.

It's a big pie to have a slice of. That's the important thing.
I wouldn't have minded if they didn't start removing features that were free for all and hadn't made the app more cumbersome to use for your Personal music as well.
 
Spotify's 20+ million users don't agree, either.
Or the countless businessmen getting rich off it.
Actually they announced it's at 30 million now... Apple Music as competition doesn't seem to be affecting them at all.
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Am I the only person who thinks that iTunes Match is the best invention ever?
It was good until they integrated Apple Music, now the whole app is a piece of crap. User interface is horrible and cumbersome and not as user friendly as Spotify.
For a company who made user friendly a standard, I think I know where the original MobileMe team ended up.
 
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