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I tried Apple Music because of the trial and stuck with it because of how easy it was to have access to almost every song ever made. I was never one for paying for streaming music before.
Yes same here. I actually cancelled for a few months after the trial and then decided to go ahead and pay for it. The convenience alone is worth the $10/mo. Plus like you said, it provides instant access to almost every song ever made.
 
Just because they made 10 million users doesn't mean it's any good. That's just the power of default music app, which the first thing any iOS user will see is "Try Apple Music for free".

If Spotify was part of default music app, it would have 100 million users by now.

Considering Apple has a user base of 800 million iPhone users, 10 million is a surprisingly low number, which actually indicates that Apple Music is a poor product.

This is not an ad hominem attack. I just want to point out that your argument is severely flawed. 1st sentence - okay. 2nd sentence - okay. 3rd sentence - completely made up statistic that could be accurate or completely off (also is that just users or paid subscribers?). 4th sentence - opinion with poor conclusion (i.e., that "only" having 10 million paying subscribers indicates that Apple Music is a poor product - there are many bad products that have many users and many good products with few users).
 
You can't deny the fact, though, that if you click on the Music icon on your iDevice you will be invited to try Apple Music for free, and if you want to listen to Spotify, you have to go to the app store and download it.

Also, perhaps I missed something through all these pages, but there's nowhere that says "10 million paying subscribers" for AM.
 
W/o reading all the reply's here are my thoughts on this.

Spotify did kinda pave the way in paid streaming music apps. Thus making it easier for a "new guy" in the game to get buy in on paying to stream. Apple is also per-built into any new iPhone. also how many of these are automatic enrollments after the free 3 months trial.
 
I won't be switching to Apple Music until they have a student discount that matches Spotify. Being a broke college student, I'm much happier to pay $4.99 a month versus $9.99
 
"Apple Music has surpassed 10 million subscribers across iOS, Mac, PC, Android and Apple TV in just six months, a milestone that took its largest rival Spotify around six years to accomplish, Financial Times reported on Sunday."

When making such comparisons one should be careful to remember that Spotify worked the virgin soil for those six months, building up a service out of nothing. All Apple did was to usurp Spotify's hard work and reroute the user base they had put so much effort into achieving. In some circles, such activity may be termed "jumping on the bandwagon".
 
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Spotify blows Apple Music out of the water, horrible over-complicated and slow UI on desktop and mobile. Horribly static homepage and crap playlists. I love you, Apple, but Apple Music blows as it is now.

Stating Apple Music's UI isn't that great is perfectly fine...

...Stating Spotify blows it out of the water because of the UI is laughable, at best. Spotify's UI is horrendous. Downright terrible.
 
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Apple Music is VERY cheap for a family..... $3.75/month per person. Anyone that thinks this is expensive shouldn't even own an iPhone.

I heard a person in NYC when I was visiting in line at a Starbucks complain about the price and then order a $5+ drink. What an idiot!
 
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I'm sure someone already corrected you but the free trial did not automatically switch over to paid. It is opt-in not opt-out.

I dug up my email from Apple:

This email confirms your order of the following subscription with a free trial of 3 months. You are not charged for the free trial period, but when your 1 month subscription auto-renews on 10/03/15 you will be billed $9.99 for the period.

Name of Subscription: Individual Apple Music membership
Content Provider: Apple Inc.
Subscription Period: 1 month
Length of Trial: 3 months
Renewal Price: $9.99

The subscription period will automatically renew unless you turn it off no later than 24 hours before the end of the current period. To cancel auto-renewal or manage your subscriptions, click below and sign in.


I don't really remember how it played out, but that seems like it switched automatically over to paid. Is that how you read it?
 
You can't deny the fact, though, that if you click on the Music icon on your iDevice you will be invited to try Apple Music for free, and if you want to listen to Spotify, you have to go to the app store and download it.

Also, perhaps I missed something through all these pages, but there's nowhere that says "10 million paying subscribers" for AM.

It says it Apple Music has 10 million subscribers. Apple Music is a paid-subscription based service. Just tapping the icon does not make one a subscriber. Using the app to play music doesn't make one a subscriber. Listening to Beats 1 radio or any of the many streaming genre-based radio stations doesn't make one a subscriber. Paying makes one a subscriber... the service is subscription-only and it has a price tag.

To put it in simpler terms... the app works without a subscription for all the music you own and download to your device or put into iTunes Cloud. At no point do I need to subscribe and pay to the service that is Apple Music to use anything that isn't streaming music I haven't purchased.
 
I dug up my email from Apple:

This email confirms your order of the following subscription with a free trial of 3 months. You are not charged for the free trial period, but when your 1 month subscription auto-renews on 10/03/15 you will be billed $9.99 for the period.

Name of Subscription: Individual Apple Music membership
Content Provider: Apple Inc.
Subscription Period: 1 month
Length of Trial: 3 months
Renewal Price: $9.99

The subscription period will automatically renew unless you turn it off no later than 24 hours before the end of the current period. To cancel auto-renewal or manage your subscriptions, click below and sign in.


I don't really remember how it played out, but that seems like it switched automatically over to paid. Is that how you read it?

Oh yeah. Also there is this warning on the second screen of set up that says "Until turned off your membership will continue to renew". Seems like it would be pretty hard to accidentally renew.
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Apple Music is VERY cheap for a family..... $3.75/month per person. Anyone that thinks this is expensive shouldn't even own an iPhone.
Every time someone says "if you think blah blah is expensive you shouldn't even own an Apple product", God kills a kitten.

It says it Apple Music has 10 million subscribers. Apple Music is a paid-subscription based service. Just tapping the icon does not make one a subscriber. Using the app to play music doesn't make one a subscriber. Listening to Beats 1 radio or any of the many streaming genre-based radio stations doesn't make one a subscriber. Paying makes one a subscriber... the service is subscription-only and it has a price tag.
I wanted to go all smart on you using my trusty Google friend and nitpick about the definition of "subscriber", and found out that actually Apple Music is NOT a subscription based service, it is a MEMBERSHIP based service. The word "subscription" does not appear on the Apple Music page. Therefore AM has zero subscribers. Sorry! You lost! ;)
 
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Like the service but have no idea how they made the app so terrible. Like what exactly is 'add to up next' supposed to mean? Why not use plain simple English like the Sonos app does?

What part of it do you find difficult to understand?

Doesn't it just mean add to the list of music that is coming up next?

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
 
Every time someone says "if you think blah blah is expensive you shouldn't even own an Apple product", God kills a kitten.


I wanted to go all smart on you using my trusty Google friend and nitpick about the definition of "subscriber", and found out that actually Apple Music is NOT a subscription based service, it is a MEMBERSHIP based service. The word "subscription" does not appear on the Apple Music page. Therefore AM has zero subscribers. Sorry! You lost! ;)

Yeah, I'll accept the loss -- but not in the framework of the article as presented to us and the verbiage it used. :p

Anyway, more to that point, I just wanted to go out and say even the "free" memberships *nudge* are paid ones. It's just not the end-user paying. There's some money moving around internally still between their own cost centers, presumably the Marketing department is paying for it.
 
I really like Spotify. I personally love the dark green and black UI. It's easier on the eyes than bright white. Black UI colors always look great.

Apple Music is great too but Spotify works in so many places and streaming works great and lots of choices. And I'm not missing Taylor Swift, lol.

Since Spotify is a European company , it has more "World" music than Apple.
But, I understand that that is only important for an "Ausländer"

I actually only open iTunes when I want to stream movies to my Apple TV. Compared to the simple UI it was, the current thing is a mess.

Maybe call in Jony to make iTunes thinner?
 
Cancelled my sub at the end of December, the streaming bitrate used was slightly too low for my liking. The service was good for what it is though and if they improved the streaming quality I'd probably resub.
 
I've been a Spotify user for about a year and half. I recently subscribed to Apple Music after having used the 3 month trial. I love the integration, the cheaper price point ($15/month family plan (apple) vs. $20/month family plan (spotify)) and the layout.

However, I am livid about about the missing tracks across the service. It seems Canadian users (myself) and others abroad (UK for example) don't have the same content as the US. I wouldn't mind as much if the service were the same in every country, but the fact that it isn't is a huge slap in the face to international users. I expected problems given that its a new service, but this is unacceptable. I'm certain its a licensing issue and Apple needs to sort this out ASAP.

This issue aside, the app performs well. There are far more reasons for me to stick with Apple Music than to switch back to Spotify. You take the good with the bad I guess.
 
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I saw a tweet from someone who has contacts in the business and said Apple Music was developed by the Beats team in LA not in Cupertino. On John Gruber's most recent podcast he relayed a rumor he heard about a meeting where Jimmy Iovine argued that music shouldn't be an app, it should just appear whenever you turn on your phone. Purchasing Beats was a mistake IMO. Just because Jimmy Iovine is a big shot in the music industry doesn't mean he's the right person to create a streaming music service. I agree with Gruber. Last years WWDC was Apple's worst keynote in a long time all because of the stupid 40 minute Apple Music section. It certainly didn't deserve the "one more thing" tag.

That would explain a lot, actually. What a shame.
 
Apple Music is VERY cheap for a family..... $3.75/month per person. Anyone that thinks this is expensive shouldn't even own an iPhone.

I heard a person in NYC when I was visiting in line at a Starbucks complain about the price and then order a $5+ drink. What an idiot!
A very solid point. People complain about spending 2, 3, 5, 10 dollars on a mobile game while they spend $5 a day on coffee. Then download a free game and spend $20 on gems. Many people are just walking contradictions, unfortunately, and I've stopped trying to figure people on on these subjects.
 
Stating Apple Music's UI isn't that great is perfectly fine...

...Stating Spotify blows it out of the water because of the UI is laughable, at best. Spotify's UI is horrendous. Downright terrible.

What do you find so horrendous about Spotify's UI? To each their own, but it's hell of a lot simpler than anything in iTunes.
 
Stating Apple Music's UI isn't that great is perfectly fine...

...Stating Spotify blows it out of the water because of the UI is laughable, at best. Spotify's UI is horrendous. Downright terrible.
Well, I disagree. Spotify's UI is easy to understand and very functional, which cannot be said of Apple's new music app. On the computer, the iTunes UI has also gotten much worse compared to the simple, elegant UI it used to have. They are just changing things for the sake of change, and keep making things worse in the process.

However, I would appreciate if Spotify could bring back changeable skins, since I'm not a big fan of the dark color scheme.
 
Agree.
I'm astonished by the comments on this forum. This seem to be an haters' nest lately....

Tbh I'm not an Apple Music subscriber and I don't like the new music app UI, but the tone of comments here is exaggerated as usual.

Lets see:

1. When iCloud music was launched, it messed up people's libraries (some of them highly curated over several years) deleting music, ratings, playcounts etc, in some cases irreparable damage.

2. iOS Music app has some of the worst UI I have seen in a long time, even with the initial fixes, it remains second class.

3. iOS Music app now puts all your music into a tiny tab, and the rest are streaming, which means if you don't like streaming, you are forced to see it everyday cluttering your UI and affecting your usage every single day. I really miss having the playlists, artists, songs, albums tabs at the bottom, now it's "Music" "Playlists" "Radio" "Connect" It's a joke, why doesn't Apple let me customize it so I can remove the useless "Connect" and remove the useless beats1 and radio I don't care about?

4. Rather than entering the market and competing fairly, Apple imposes 30% premium on Spotify and other similar services when users sign up through the app store. This puts Apple music at an advantage over competitors and potentially threatens in the long term Spotify's viability. Do we want fair competition, or monopolies? Why is a 30% premium imposed monthly on Spotify?

You don't think the criticism has some merit?
 
6 months ago I would have agreed with you. They've made a lot of UI tweaks to improve the interface and make the UI make sense.
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Long press on a suggestion in your For You section and it will give you the option to say "I don't like this recommendation"
Didn't know this, but also bit of pain to get it to pop up sometimes.
 
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