So? Apple should be able to sell their products how they want. It’s just a shame some countries don’t bepiece in freedom.
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Apple Must Compensate Brazilian Customer Over $1,000 for Selling iPhone Without a Charger, Judge Rules
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If that's your logic, then what else should consumers be allowed to demand with their iPones because "Apple can afford it"? Apple's not demanding anything. They're simply not including a charger. I've never thought of corporations as my "friend". If I like their product or service, I use it. If I don't, I look elsewhere. I don't run to the government or a lawyer and demand they modify their product or service offerings to suit by fancy.
Apple to avoid 600 MT of plastic with no plastic wrap on iPhone 13 range
Last July, Apple had unveiled its plan to become carbon neutral across its entire business, manufacturing supply chain, and product life cycle by 2030.
Also, I bought a bunch of accessories from Apple last year (adapters, charging cords, AC adapter, etc.) and none of them had plastic shrink-wrap either (just the pull tab).
I agree with you but this is not about Apple not knowing the regulations. They did knew, they just didn’t want to comply. The hundreds of millions they save with a smaller package and not including an adapter triumphs whatever fine they have.
And don't forget many devices don't include batteries. And as I said to another poster earlier, the Mac Mini doesn't include a keyboard or mouse. I guess all these product sales are illegal in Brazil, LOL! Absolute insanity.
What’s disturbing is not understanding why this move is good overall. Horses for courses.
I mean I haven’t tested every one but I am sure most computers I have used in the last 15 years could charge an iPhone.
I can see an issue if they don’t support always on USB though, like you have to keep the computer on to charge the phone. That has been around for 10 years but it’s not very common even today. It’d be annoying to keep your computer on all night just to charge your phone.
You’re not following the conversation. This is all part of the same conversation.
Yes, part of the law allows an appeal process, which apple did finally come to a resolution.
The most ridiculous comparison I've seen on the topic. Gas to cars is what electricity is to iPhones, not the charger. No one expects apple to provide electricity for their iPhone.
Why so defensive? You keep moving goalposts as people dismantle every claim you make.
That plastic is necessary unless scratched devices becomes popular. I was just clarifying.
It isn't easy but Brazil isn't a small country either, Apple should have known. They have to pay their "fine" and fix the problem going forward. (and hope nobody else sues) You make the mistake, you pay for it. I certainly don't have any sympathy for Apple on this.
How much you want to bet someone gets a much bigger settlement when someone sues Apple for not including a keyboard and mouse in the box for a Mac Studio? (I'm irked about that one myself) Tie in sales is the Apple way of doing things.
Did your car not come with any gas when you bought it? All mine sure have. To be a similar thing, it would not have any gas in it at all.
I disagree with you as much as it is possible to disagree with anyone. Our environmental problems are the accumulated damage of millions of consumers making the wrong decision. "I didn't really need one, but they were free." "I got what I was entitled to." and on and on. I realize I am being extremely cynical about the average person, but solutions to these problems are going to look like big companies forced to do unpopular things that pull waste out of the process, like this one. There is a notion of capturing the cost of negative externalities of e-waste and this outweighs any one consumer's feelings on the matter.
Given how the price didn't go down when they stopped including the charger, one can easily assume that putting it back in shouldn't raise the price any. Apple lost the argument when they didn't lower the cost any.
Apple to avoid 600 MT of plastic with no plastic wrap on iPhone 13 range
Last July, Apple had unveiled its plan to become carbon neutral across its entire business, manufacturing supply chain, and product life cycle by 2030.www.business-standard.com
Also, I bought a bunch of accessories from Apple last year (adapters, charging cords, AC adapter, etc.) and none of them had plastic shrink-wrap either (just the pull tab).
I bought an iPad Pro and Apple Pencil in February and they were wrapped in plastic. And as far as I know all MacBook boxes are also wrapped in plastic as are the chargers included with devices. So what devices do they not wrap in plastic then?
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So how long before Apple just packs up and leave the Brazilian market?
They would rather do that than pay everyone $1,000 for not including a charger.
(And yes, it saved money because of the 5G modem, but at same time, it was a massive environmental move that saved lot of chargers from going to the dumps, and now all companies are copying it….)
They would rather do that than pay everyone $1,000 for not including a charger.
(And yes, it saved money because of the 5G modem, but at same time, it was a massive environmental move that saved lot of chargers from going to the dumps, and now all companies are copying it….)
As my post indicated, iPhone 13 has no shrinkwrap and neither do any iPhone/Mac accessories that I've bought such as chargers, adapters, power cables, etc. I don't believe my iPad Air 4 I purchased last summer (no longer have) had shrinkwrap either, but I couldn't swear to that. But the others I can. But some is better than none!
I think all phones should come with chargers. My old iPhone 7 went to my wife years ago. My new phone came with a charger. Of course she uses the old charger that went with the 6. I don't think MOST people have chargers lying around. You either sell or give your old phone away and the charger goes with it.