When was the last time you even used itunes? You sound like you haven't a clue of its structure at this point.
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iPod touch Apple needs something like Zune Pass.
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When was the last time you even used itunes? You sound like you haven't a clue of its structure at this point.
About April.
That's what I'm saying.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1711
Educate yourself before you start knocking something.
Wow, you started a thread praising the Zune service but know nothing of its competitor you talk down on? I'm not going to do your homework for you.
That being said, even if it is more expensive in the long run, I'd rather own my music, not rent it, as I buy only what im willing to shell out for and im perfectly happy that way.
The only point that's been knocked off is low quality bitrate. Although even still, considering the **** codec Apple uses...
But whatever, lets get off of bitrate. In fact, lets get off the whole issue. I'm just gonna close by saying this. $15 a month is pennies a day. About 50 of them. And I like music. A lot of music. And when it comes to digitally downloading music. What do you really own?
For $15 via itunes, you get 15 songs at your disposal. For $15 via Zune pass, you get 10 songs at your disposal to do with what you choose now and forever, plus a couple million more, to do with at your disposal so long as you're able to scrounge up two quarters a day. Fill up your mp3 player, don't pay thousands of dollars to do so. Again, you own your music? What do you own? Itunes lets you listen to and own 15 songs. Zune lets you own 10 and listen to Millions for the same price.
And with that, goodnight.
:EDIT: Sorry, I had to comment. I checked that pricing deal. They have teired pricing now? So no, not all the songs are 99 cents? Some are more based on popularity? What kinda bull**** is that? Oh man, I'm glad I don't use itunes.
My thoughts exactly.I suppose it's not available in the US, but then again the Zune is available so I'd just use that. Also, if your musical taste is a little obscure, it becomes a waste of money as you can't find anything you want.
well considering the unique pricing option for song purchases individual tracks or full albums.
also dont forget you factor in 15$ a month for keeping such a limited number of tracks and the costs of itunes vs the monthly structure of zunepass just doesnt equate well, not to me atleast.
besides with the itunes store you can buy tracks, keep them on your iphone or ipod touch and also get them back onto your computer when you connect it.
sounds like a better option to me.
What advert was it that basically told people an iPod cost x thousand dollars to fill while a Zune cost something like $30? I'm sure it was some analyst who was endorsing that.
I'm the sort of person that likes to own music (whatever the OP thinks of the concept). I listen to albums over and over again without getting bored.
I think iTunes is too expensive though. I've ditched it for a combination of Amazon (top 40 type singles for 29p) and emusic (£12 a month = 75 songs, all of which I keep)
I'm not interested in renting music at all. If renting music was my top priority, I would get a Zune HD even if Apple rented music.
Yes. Read the iTunes FAQ.
"iTunes Plus is the new standard on iTunes" and iTunes plus is DRM-FREE 256KBPS encoded songs.
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A Zune Pass like service + Genius would be awesome. I have fallen in love with the Zune Pass and Smart DJ. I get a refresh every morning before and it downloads songs I have never heared along with stuff in my collection into the Smart DJ playlists I have set up. Smart DJ is Microsofts copy of Genius for those that don't know.
Seems alot of folks don't have the full facts about Zune Pass. You also get to keep 10 songs a month PERMANENTLY. Consider that point before you crap on Zune Pass. 10 songs a month plus access to tons of other stuff you may have never heared before is a good deal.
Seems alot of folks don't have the full facts about Zune Pass. You also get to keep 10 songs a month PERMANENTLY. Consider that point before you crap on Zune Pass. 10 songs a month plus access to tons of other stuff you may have never heared before is a good deal.
Where the Zune pass falls down is simple - it's a rental service you pay for and this is an idea that's rapidly being overtaken by other offers.
Spotify for example allows unlimited streaming of music to the desktop client for FREE. Just put up with the occasional advert and you can try whatever you like, with a fairly robust system to help you find new music, completely legally. Granted if you want to take it on the go you have to pay a small monthly fee but it'll still give you a legal way of trying whatever you want without cost. You can then buy what you want from whatever source you prefer for less than the Zune Pass service.
That gives you the best of both worlds - unlimited, quick and easy streaming of music to try whatever you want and the ability to buy what you want at the cheapest price you can find from whatever distribution path you want. And of course you're not tied to any particular device or even OS for either part of that solution unless you choose to be.
What would be nice is if Apple introduced a streaming service from iTunes but I really doubt that'll happen. Not necessarily because of Apple but I just don't see the record labels agreeing to the largest music retailer in the world (that they don't control of course) offering an all-you-can-eat service.
Spotify for example allows unlimited streaming of music to the desktop client for FREE. Just put up with the occasional advert and you can try whatever you like, with a fairly robust system to help you find new music, completely legally. Granted if you want to take it on the go you have to pay a small monthly fee but it'll still give you a legal way of trying whatever you want without cost. You can then buy what you want from whatever source you prefer for less than the Zune Pass service.
That gives you the best of both worlds - unlimited, quick and easy streaming of music to try whatever you want and the ability to buy what you want at the cheapest price you can find from whatever distribution path you want. And of course you're not tied to any particular device or even OS for either part of that solution unless you choose to be.
What would be nice is if Apple introduced a streaming service from iTunes but I really doubt that'll happen. Not necessarily because of Apple but I just don't see the record labels agreeing to the largest music retailer in the world (that they don't control of course) offering an all-you-can-eat service.
Actually there is nothing wrong with AAC, I've used both Itunes and Zune Marketplace with the 192kb WMA format and they equally sound pretty good.
MegaDell is right ZunePass is a pretty cool, useful service.
Think if you had teenage kids who loved to download music? You gonna let them drop $10 each time they want an album? Or download the weekly top 20 every week? Or even every month? I would think a teenager would be pretty happy if they had access to unlimited music downloads.
From what I hear it sounds like it is just not for some people who want to own digital music from iTunes. Those people have the money to pay for it and like the convenience of iTunes...that's great. But I would think the mass majority of typical PMP owners would think ZunePass was the way to go. But most people I know have more than one set of ears to feed.
Think if you had teenage kids who loved to download music? You gonna let them drop $10 each time they want an album? Or download the weekly top 20 every week? Or even every month? I would think a teenager would be pretty happy if they had access to unlimited music downloads.
From what I hear it sounds like it is just not for some people who want to own digital music from iTunes. Those people have the money to pay for it and like the convenience of iTunes...that's great. But I would think the mass majority of typical PMP owners would think ZunePass was the way to go. But most people I know have more than one set of ears to feed.
Then think of it as paying for 10 songs a month, but getting to rent everything else.
Is the DRM removed completely from the 10 songs/month that you get to keep? Because as others have eluded to above, Microsoft has a bad habit of abandoning their DRM schemes and if your 10 songs are flagged as keepers but still have DRM then they are gone too when Microsoft moves on to a different DRM scheme or you move on to a different media player.
Also, will MS ever come out with a Zune sync app for OSX? Their solution to just run Windows on a Mac would be a fine solution if they gave a free copy out with every Zune, but otherwise that cost really needs to be added to the first Zune you buy if you have a Mac, and that puts the Zune HD at a huge price disadvantage to the touch.
Also, will MS ever come out with a Zune sync app for OSX? Their solution to just run Windows on a Mac would be a fine solution if they gave a free copy out with every Zune, but otherwise that cost really needs to be added to the first Zune you buy if you have a Mac, and that puts the Zune HD at a huge price disadvantage to the touch.
That is a good way to think of it.
If the OP really wants Apple to introduce subscription based music, then he should want the Zune to succeed. If the Zune gains enough marketshare then Apple might introduce a subscription service.
Good question. I keep forgetting to check, but MS has moved to DRM free MP3s for outright purchased songs and I was told that the ones you keep with your 10 free credits are MP3.
I would like to see Apple do a movie subscription service ,beef up their library on par with netflix and have all new releases. Straight to the iPod touch
I would like to see Apple do a movie subscription service ,beef up their library on par with netflix and have all new releases. Straight to the iPod touch
now that's thinkin' with your dipstick!
Sign me up for that service!
Bull shinkle.
Songs bought with zune song credits
Sync the song an unlimited number of times with an unlimited number of Zune players.
Burn the song to CD up to seven times.
Sure that sounds like MP3 alright (answer no, it's just another Microsoft DRM that they might discontinue after awhile).
Walmart cuts the cord, discontinues support for WMA DRM music
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/64685.html?wlc=1253629615
Wait hold on, Walmart isn't MS. Well here is Microsoft.
DRM sucks redux: Microsoft to nuke MSN Music DRM keys
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...edux-microsoft-to-nuke-msn-music-drm-keys.ars