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Apple needs Steve Jobs!

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orfeas0

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Well, probably steve's leave of absence isn't the issue, but has anyone checked buyer's guide lately? There are NO apple products that are recently updated! Everything is in the mid-product cycle or approaching the end (and in some cases, it should have been updated long ago, note: iPod classic) of cycle.
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com// check it out.:D
What I'm saying is, the company is kinda falling apart without Steve. And I'm really hoping that Tim Cook does a good job with the next iPod classic and the new Macbook lineup!
 
OMG, Tim Cook has been CEO for 22 days and Apple hasn't released a product. They're doomed.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.
 
This is a perfect test to see how Apple does without him. There are many other good people in the organization that are less polarizing and acerbic.
 
Is it REALLY Tim Cook's fault that they haven't updated a product in the...month (?) he's been CEO?

They do annual updates on most items. Get with it. This thread is a fail.
 
orfeas0 said:
Maybe it's because I'm not english, but that makes no sense at all. What do you mean?
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Sorry, it means I would not court that job, ever.

"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon 'em" - Will

I am 'none of the above'. ;)
 
fireshot91 said:
Is it REALLY Tim Cook's fault that they haven't updated a product in the...month (?) he's been CEO?

They do annual updates on most items. Get with it. This thread is a fail.
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iPod classic: 518 (Avg = 262)
White macbook: 267 (Avg = 195)
Macbook pro : 302 (Avg = 208)

You were saying?
 
iJohnHenry said:
Sorry, the rest of my life is fully booked.

Besides, I dislike the limelight that would go with the job.
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Obviously, Mighty Suede & Jobs a green dodger iPod - yes not Tim Cook bicycled Apple regiments!

You're confusing the OP John. See? I can do it too. :D
 
orfeas0 said:
iPod classic: 518 (Avg = 262)
White macbook: 267 (Avg = 195)
Macbook pro : 302 (Avg = 208)

You were saying?
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Ipod classic: Who buys those?
White macbook: hasn't hindered sales at all
Macbook pro: Update it with what? Apple is bound to Intel's microprocessor roadmap.

The buyer's guide isn't right at all anyway.
 
Well seeing as the stock has continue to rise since Cook has taken over, I wouldn't say he's running the company into the ground.

And seriously, it's not like Apple is like Sony who spits out a new laptop every five minutes only to discontinue it in 15 minutes. Apple's sales of existing products are still strong (the conference call last month shows that). And as someone has already said, Apple is tied to Intel's roadmap. Also get used to Cook, he's been pegged by most as the next CEO of Apple, and with the way Jobs' health has been lately, I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns or croaks soon. I personally think his pancreatic cancer is back.

Chill out, take some xanax if you have to, but seriously chill out.

-Don
 
Dmac77 said:
Well seeing as the stock has continue to rise since Cook has taken over, I wouldn't say he's running the company into the ground.

And seriously, it's not like Apple is like Sony who spits out a new laptop every five minutes only to discontinue it in 15 minutes. Apple's sales of existing products are still strong (the conference call last month shows that). And as someone has already said, Apple is tied to Intel's roadmap. Also get used to Cook, he's been pegged by most as the next CEO of Apple, and with the way Jobs' health has been lately, I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns or croaks soon. I personally think his pancreatic cancer is back.

Chill out, take some xanax if you have to, but seriously chill out.

-Don
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Well I'm calm no need to chill, just making conversation :)
But really guys, the white macbook used to get upgraded each ~6 months, and now it's been almost a year without an update. That's a lot...
 
iJohnHenry said:
Sorry, the rest of my life is fully booked.

Besides, I dislike the limelight that would go with the job.
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Melrose said:
Obviously, Mighty Suede & Jobs a green dodger iPod - yes not Tim Cook bicycled Apple regiments!

You're confusing the OP John. See? I can do it too. :D
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The two of you have got company it seems…
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alisekaspar said:
The process by which a Company manages all the elements of records whether externally or internally generated and in any format or media type, from their inception/ receipt, all the way through to their disposal.
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orfeas0 said:
Well I'm calm no need to chill, just making conversation
But really guys, the white macbook used to get upgraded each ~6 months, and now it's been almost a year without an update. That's a lot...
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I think what other posters are trying to tell you is that Jobs hasn't been away long enough from Apple. Inc HQ that any failure in the product cycle could be ascribed to him being away… είναι ότι κατανοητό;
;)
 
arkitect said:
I think what other posters are trying to tell you is that Jobs hasn't been away long enough from Apple. Inc HQ that any failure in the product cycle could be ascribed to him being away… είναι ότι κατανοητό;
;)
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Google translate ftw :p
Yea I got that, but I think they really need to give something new...I mean after the air, apple made no moves to move forward (don't tell me about verizon iphone...).
Why the hell is a new carrier to support a phone such big news? We got 2 carriers in Greece selling the iPhone. And most phones are available with all the carriers. If you ask me, apple should be sued for unfair competition, only giving their products to att (and now verizon)!
 
orfeas0 said:
What I'm saying is, the company is kinda falling apart without Steve.
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I hate to sound harsh but your post and hypothesis is without sound business understanding.

What I mean by that is all the products in the pipeline are just that, in various stages of being designed/built/readied for production. This has not changed since Jobs took a leave of absence. To put it a different way Tim Cook nor Steve Jobs could produce a product from idea to production phase in 23 days.

There has been no release of products yet on Tim Cook's watch and it would be the same if Steve did not take a leave of absence.

Apple is more then one man, and while Jobs provided a clear direction and spirit to the company, he by no means created by himself, the iPhone, iPod, the iPad. A large number of very gifted designers and engineers have. They're still at apple doing what they do best. Creating great products.

Tim's tenure as CEO is too new to see any change in how apple works and besides he's just an interim CEO until Steve returns, so he'll not be making any major changes. Probably like his last medical leave, Steve was in constant contact with the executives of apple, so he's fully aware of what's going on,he's just not dealing with the day to day operation of apple
 
Designer Dale said:
I would not stake the health of of a $329,000,000,000 company on the buyer's guide on an internet forum.

But that's just me...

Dale
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When Jobs does leave Apple, that market cap will probably lower to around the mid 200's for a short period of time due to a massive sell off of the stock. But, Timmy seems to know Apple well, so I think that fall would be the time to buy.
 
I disagree. Personally i would like if it did, because i would snap up shares in a heartbeat...but the people holding stock here aren't all banking on just Steve, they're banking on Apple's product lines and Apple fanatacism. Guarantee you there are many products in the pipeline that are years away from fruition. When he leaves there will be a hit, but the talent at the company and the atmosphere he created will still be there. Management and the board knows exactly what's needed to keep the company firing and they will find a good replacement for him. No one can replace Steve, but there isn't going to be a run on the stock when he leaves. Just my $.02 though.

callmemike20 said:
When Jobs does leave Apple, that market cap will probably lower to around the mid 200's for a short period of time due to a massive sell off of the stock. But, Timmy seems to know Apple well, so I think that fall would be the time to buy.
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ObsidianIce said:
...No one can replace Steve...
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That's the point.

Steve will be leaving soon. Unfortunately, it will come at a time where Apple's growth will be questioned. A company can only grow so much before it hits maturity. Steve leaving will only impact this more. The stock dropping to just below $300 a share would bring the market cap down to 276 billion. It's at $358 right now. If Steve left today, it would drop significantly due to panic. Even if people were okay with it, there would be downward pressure on the stock because no one would be buying right away, but people would still be selling.

On the other hand, if he leaves in 2 years when the stock is (possibly) at $450, it won't drop below 300, but maybe just below 420.

While management at Apple is good and Steve has been clearly showing a slow transition, it's all about timing. I have faith in new management, but many people will sell off because Steve IS Apple. While myself and many others have faith, the media will play it out as much as possible, which will cause panic.
 
orfeas0 said:
What I'm saying is, the company is kinda falling apart without Steve. And I'm really hoping that Tim Cook does a good job with the next iPod classic and the new Macbook lineup!
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When you're right, you're right.

CUPERTINO, CA—In his first major product release since stepping in for an ailing Steve Jobs last month, interim Apple CEO Tim Cook faced a storm of harsh criticism Monday after unveiling a grotesque new version of the company's popular MacBook that many in attendance described as "disgusting."

Cook presented the bizarre, malformed new product to stunned silence during a media event at Apple headquarters, revealing a device that, while vaguely similar to a computer in certain respects, appeared to be encased in a thick, flesh-like coating that was visibly moist and engorged.
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