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I have the amazon fire tv. Haven't used it that much but so far I am highly impressed by the speed. I select a show and it just starts playing. Zero delay. And the voice search is a nice bonus.
 
Have you tried to stream a movie from your personal computer? This is what I am looking for in the new amazon fire. If it does streaming, then can dump my ATV's for this.
 
I have the amazon fire tv. Haven't used it that much but so far I am highly impressed by the speed. I select a show and it just starts playing. Zero delay. And the voice search is a nice bonus.

but the voice search only shows movies from amazon ?
 
I sold my two Apple TV's for 240 a piece (not jailbroken).

Leaning heavily towards the Amazon Fire if I don't see something from Apple in the next month.
 
Remember, if one is using Amazon's offering, they most likely are not using Apple's ATV. - Dollars to Amazon instead of Apple as it were and not just dollars in Amazon's pocket.

Not true. Amazon Prime members get streaming (of some stuff, not all) for free. As a Prime member, I use both. Really wish Amazon Video was available on ATV. The interface for Amazon Video on my TV is a little clunky.
 
Not true. Amazon Prime members get streaming (of some stuff, not all) for free. As a Prime member, I use both. Really wish Amazon Video was available on ATV. The interface for Amazon Video on my TV is a little clunky.


You can airplay the iOS Amazon instant video app to the ATV.
 
Not true. Amazon Prime members get streaming (of some stuff, not all) for free. As a Prime member, I use both. Really wish Amazon Video was available on ATV. The interface for Amazon Video on my TV is a little clunky.

If you buy Amazon's box and not ATV, then all the money goes to Amazon. That is all that was stated.
 
Thanks, that had me rolling on the floor with the biggest laugh I have had in a while! Yes I am a software engineer and I know what you mean, but when applied to Apple that is just funny. Everything piece of software that they make is intended to treat you like an idiot, and succeeds admirably I might add. Has Apple never heard of user options?

It seems to somehow get pretty well tailored for the true techoidiots and moderate know-it-alls. Yes, I agree that in the perfect world I would prefer a few more options. But compared to my use of my Windows notebook that makes me want to scream to just see a shared network hard drive, GAH. I guess that Apple worries about downstream consequences of letting people have limitless options to everything. When building out a website that was of course supposed to work for pretty much everybody with only one person who really knew how to do the crap -- he wasn't me -- I wanted to give up on IE and stick to Safari, Firefox and Chrome.

My parents have kind of figured out Apple TV for all its flaws. They have figured out iPhones and iPads much better. If Apple were to put the energy behind ATV that they do behind iOS devices, it might get that much better. I liked the mockup someone had of divorcing content from the services and presenting it all as "you can watch 'The Walking Dead'" or "You can watch 'The Matrix.'" Create a UI that divorces you from needing to know if it's on Hulu, Netflix, iTunes Library, iTunes purchases, Amazon Video, HBO Go, Watch ESPN, etc.

It's no easy task. But you create a framework like that and it could totally change video.
 
If you buy Amazon's box and not ATV, then all the money goes to Amazon. That is all that was stated.

You stated the following: "Remember, if one is using Amazon's offering, they most likely are not using Apple's ATV"

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "Amazon's offering". I assumed you meant that people who used Amazon streaming would most likely not be using the AppleTV. That is what I was disagreeing with. If, by "Amazon's offering", you meant the new Fire, I would agree. Most people buying a Fire likely do have have an ATV.
 
You stated the following: "Remember, if one is using Amazon's offering, they most likely are not using Apple's ATV"

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "Amazon's offering". I assumed you meant that people who used Amazon streaming would most likely not be using the AppleTV. That is what I was disagreeing with. If, by "Amazon's offering", you meant the new Fire, I would agree. Most people buying a Fire likely do have have an ATV.

Hmm I guess we'll have to disagree on your last statement. I think that Amazon's offering (Fire) is being mass marketed well beyond ATV users given that Amazon will reach Roku users, Boxie, Chromecast users and those that have no "streamer" at this time. Perhaps ATV users might purchase the Fire either out of curiosity or being less than contended with the ATV. Let's see how the numbers go in terms of sales as this is all conjecture.
 
Well I think what the op is talking about is the hardware specs, and i'm not sure that's really a valid reason to just update a set top box, unless it's needed. I don't think most people shop for set top boxes based on the hardware specs, as long as the video looks smooth and everything operates snappily. What's in the ATV currently handles 1080p video just fine and runs the GUI fine with no lag, so I don't think they will just update it to say they put in a quad core or whatever. The updated hardware would come along with an update to functionality, like say if they said the new ATV was capable of 4K.
 
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