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For most people 500GB is way more than enough for business use anyway....SSD are less likely to fail mainly because of no moving parts. Depending on the layout of the school and how old it is I can see wireless as being a pain or expensive to implement.

anyway back to the CD drive....why do you really need one these days? Everything thinks they need one until they have one and never use...or only use because they have one. There are alternatives out there that cost nothing.
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I think it's similar to the DVDs you get at blockbuster video.
It's plenty of storage, but since our school has always purchased the base model Mac, it would mean going from 500GB to 128GB. All our staff were used to 500GB drives, so having to free up that much space when migrating would be a huge pain, and would not go over well. Plenty of teachers had their laptops full of data as well.

For the optical drive, it was common for teachers to use it to play DVDs that our library had during their lessons. Lots of educational videos we had were all on disc, and it wasn't until recently that we were able to remove VHS from classrooms.
 
some of you acting like 2012 "the last time they sold and made the super drive macbook pros was a decade ago"
i have two 2012 macbook pro's a 13 and 15inch and they goin strong i guess i have too get more applecare b4 jan for my 13 since i bought the 15 refurb'ed with no apple care as my new main photography macbook work station
too my fellow 2012 macbook pro users WE ARE DYING BREED STAY STRONG
 
For most people 500GB is way more than enough for business use anyway....SSD are less likely to fail mainly because of no moving parts. Depending on the layout of the school and how old it is I can see wireless as being a pain or expensive to implement.

anyway back to the CD drive....why do you really need one these days? Everything thinks they need one until they have one and never use...or only use because they have one. There are alternatives out there that cost nothing.
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I think it's similar to the DVDs you get at blockbuster video.


Correct. I have a slim panasonic usb portable DVD burner that I got with my 2011 MacMini for $34. Used it l less than 5 times! I recently plugged it into my new MacBook Pro to see if it still worked. USB and online streaming killed the DVD burner.
 
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Nah. I have the same one, slapped a 1TB SSD in it and it flies ... it will be an incredibly useful machine for years to come.
LUCKY U I HAVE TOO GET AND SSD ASAP B4 WINTER COMES U KNOW ANY CHEAP RELIABLE EASY TOO INSTALL AND TRANSFER MY OLD HD TOO AND SSD DRIVE PACKAGES?
 
It's plenty of storage, but since our school has always purchased the base model Mac, it would mean going from 500GB to 128GB. All our staff were used to 500GB drives, so having to free up that much space when migrating would be a huge pain, and would not go over well. Plenty of teachers had their laptops full of data as well.

For the optical drive, it was common for teachers to use it to play DVDs that our library had during their lessons. Lots of educational videos we had were all on disc, and it wasn't until recently that we were able to remove VHS from classrooms.


I see your points, but I wish I was the IT guy at your school...I also don't know your school policy about personal stuff on issued computers, but if they are filling a 500GB drive that easy it has to be with media...Pictures, videos, music, and I'd be willing to be 90%+ is personal stuff, maybe they should be forced to keep personal stuff on external devices....Thumb drive or external drive.

Back to USB CD/DVD drives, if they are using for video lessons on DVD, the school could purchase a few of them and the teachers sign them from the library with the DVDs. Or rip the DVDs and store it on the computer.

When I was in school there was a limited number of TV/VCR carts or overhead projectors and the teachers signed them out as needed.

It goes back to having a good SOP for faculty to follow.


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I see your points, but I wish I was the IT guy at your school...I also don't know your school policy about personal stuff on issued computers, but if they are filling a 500GB drive that easy it has to be with media...Pictures, videos, music, and I'd be willing to be 90%+ is personal stuff, maybe they should be forced to keep personal stuff on external devices....Thumb drive or external drive.

Back to USB CD/DVD drives, if they are using for video lessons on DVD, the school could purchase a few of them and the teachers sign them from the library with the DVDs. Or rip the DVDs and store it on the computer.

When I was in school there was a limited number of TV/VCR carts or overhead projectors and the teachers signed them out as needed.

It goes back to having a good SOP for faculty to follow.


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I was one of the IT guys there, and our district policy was that teachers could use their school issued laptop at home for personal use as well as educational use, as when they first rolled out the program it encouraged staff to become familiar with them and more easily make almost all staff accept them. While that was over a decade ago, it's nearly impossible to revert from that once it's become commonplace.

We actually were thinking about buying a few dozen optical drives and USB to ethernet adapters that teachers could sign out, but when Apple kept the legacy MBP we bought those instead.
 
WTF is a CD?

Something I still buy, and rip, and burn, as I am rather partial to - and possess - an extensive music library.

Not only do I buy CDs, - I even make private CDs for friends.

What's a CD drive? Does it play those black 12" plastic circle thing'a-magigies that Barnes and Nobles sells?

Yes.

For some of us, the iPod was the greatest invention since the wheel. I still use mine most days, specially when I am travelling.

However, I haven't had a computer with an internal CD drive since 2010, when I bought my first MBA. These days, I use the USB Superdrive that Apple still sells.
 
Good riddance. I've always hated CDs, and memory cards too. Glad the new MBP doesn't have an SD slot, otherwise they might be around forever. Wireless is the future!
 
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I love Music CDs. Sometimes I find a good classic album and rip it into iTunes. People also still send CDs or DVDs with data. Like when they don't want to upload to dropbox all night they burn a CD and are done.
 
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I was one of the IT guys there, and our district policy was that teachers could use their school issued laptop at home for personal use as well as educational use, as when they first rolled out the program it encouraged staff to become familiar with them and more easily make almost all staff accept them. While that was over a decade ago, it's nearly impossible to revert from that once it's become commonplace.

We actually were thinking about buying a few dozen optical drives and USB to ethernet adapters that teachers could sign out, but when Apple kept the legacy MBP we bought those instead.


Well the time has come I guess...I would highly encourage updating the policy to if 128GB isn't enough for you you're more than welcome to purchase an external HHD. you can get a Western Digital 1TB 2.5" HHD for about $50.
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Something I still buy, and rip, and burn, as I am rather partial to - and possess - an extensive music library.

Not only do I buy CDs, - I even make private CDs for friends.

I ripped all of mine and threw them on my server, then I saved them in my basement. I did the same with all my old DVDs too, but I threw them away. I am actually thinking of throwing away all my old CDs too. I am pretty confident I have set up my server so that even with 2 drive failures at once I won't lose anything, unless my house burns down and the computer goes with it.
 
I ordered mine minutes after the keynote 2012 and still rocking with it. Turned into a brand new computer a year ago with a new 500 Gig SSD and 16 Gig or RAM.

Now for the same configuration I would have to pay more than double the price for the new MacBooks! Would have Retina, new processor and touchbar but still not worth the hefty price raise!

What do you mean? You upgraded the RAM and HDD in a MacBook Pro? HOW?!
 
Well the time has come I guess...I would highly encourage updating the policy to if 128GB isn't enough for you you're more than welcome to purchase an external HHD. you can get a Western Digital 1TB 2.5" HHD for about $50.
Good luck with that lol. Administrators and staff would not approve of that easily, and with many using iPhoto, Garageband, iMovie, etc., it's nearly impossible to store that content on an external drive and use the applications still.

It's extremely hard to take away something in education that they are accustomed to.
 
Well, as it happens, memory is not really problem for me, - granted, it is always nice to have more. This is because my MBA was CTO (8 GB RAM and Core i7) and came with a SSD of 512GB.
 
Good luck with that lol. Administrators and staff would not approve of that easily, and with many using iPhoto, Garageband, iMovie, etc., it's nearly impossible to store that content on an external drive and use the applications still.

It's extremely hard to take away something in education that they are accustomed to.


I know, I am the IT guy in my office. We have people that 20GB+ of old outlook PST files, so many funny emails to save. Had a guy recently ask me to help him move his files and we was storing emails from over 10 years ago, and has been in over 3 did job positions since then. No way will he ever need them.

Data hoarders is what I call them.
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Good luck with that lol. Administrators and staff would not approve of that easily, and with many using iPhoto, Garageband, iMovie, etc., it's nearly impossible to store that content on an external drive and use the applications still.

It's extremely hard to take away something in education that they are accustomed to.


But anyway, it is what it is...If your school decides to purchase the base model with 128GB of ram....that is the new equipment whether the faculty wants to accept it or not. When the complain, pass the blame onto Apple and drive on, give them the alternatives you are willing to work with.
 
I know, I am the IT guy in my office. We have people that 20GB+ of old outlook PST files, so many funny emails to save. Had a guy recently ask me to help him move his files and we was storing emails from over 10 years ago, and has been in over 3 did job positions since then. No way will he ever need them.

Data hoarders is what I call them.
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But anyway, it is what it is...If your school decides to purchase the base model with 128GB of ram....that is the new equipment whether the faculty wants to accept it or not. When the complain, pass the blame onto Apple and drive on, give them the alternatives you are willing to work with.
Personally I thought MacBook Pros were really overpriced in a K-12 school environment when Chromebooks would suffice for 90% of what students and teachers do on their laptops, but they've had a contract with Apple for 3-4 year leases for over a decade now.

It's all irrelevant to me anyways since I left that job over a year ago :p
 
LUCKY U I HAVE TOO GET AND SSD ASAP B4 WINTER COMES U KNOW ANY CHEAP RELIABLE EASY TOO INSTALL AND TRANSFER MY OLD HD TOO AND SSD DRIVE PACKAGES?

I went with the Samsung. Installed and enabled TRIM and working perfectly.
 
Personally I thought MacBook Pros were really overpriced in a K-12 school environment when Chromebooks would suffice for 90% of what students and teachers do on their laptops, but they've had a contract with Apple for 3-4 year leases for over a decade now.

It's all irrelevant to me anyways since I left that job over a year ago :p


I agree, but chromebooks won't do everything you need so then there is another dilemma.
 
LUCKY U I HAVE TOO GET AND SSD ASAP B4 WINTER COMES U KNOW ANY CHEAP RELIABLE EASY TOO INSTALL AND TRANSFER MY OLD HD TOO AND SSD DRIVE PACKAGES?

Check out the Samsung EVO 850 SSD. Best value for its money, longest live and best speed in its category.

To copy the drive I used the Icy Box. Put the SSD into the box, cloned my HDD onto it, then swapped the drives, and put the HDD into the Icy Box and use it for backups now. :)

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Here is an easy guide:
 
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I ordered mine minutes after the keynote 2012 and still rocking with it. Turned into a brand new computer a year ago with a new 500 Gig SSD and 16 Gig or RAM.

Now for the same configuration I would have to pay more than double the price for the new MacBooks! Would have Retina, new processor and touchbar but still not worth the hefty price raise!

I'm using the same model. I originally bought it in 2012. It has 16GB of Crucial RAM. I added a Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD. I have TRIM support enabled under El Capitan 10.11.6. (I did a clean install of 10.11.6 and transferred all my data over via Setup Assistant from a Time Machine backup). Basically, this feels like a new computer even though it's over four years old.

This model was the last user-upgradable (RAM and storage) laptop that Apple ever made.
 
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