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People keep repeating this, but it's not true. There's no such law.

In fact, some judges have ruled that bending over backwards to avoid taxes is definitely NOT a corporate requirement.

For that matter, neither is concentrating only on profits. Corporations also are supposed to take care of their customers AND employees, and in general support their neighborhoods by being a good citizen. And yes, be good to their stockholders too, but that used to be less important.

Now we've' mistakenly raised a generation or two of kids who apparently really believe that greed is good.
For Global corporations World is neighborhood it is not just US and they are good global citizens that is why they are sharing the employment opportunities with everybody. All the corporations will be bankrupt if World trade is halted. We will not buy an iphone if priced at $4000 and manufactured in US.
 
People keep repeating this, but it's not true. There's no such law.

In fact, some judges have ruled that bending over backwards to avoid taxes is definitely NOT a corporate requirement.

For that matter, neither is concentrating only on profits. Corporations also are supposed to take care of their customers AND employees, and in general support their neighborhoods by being a good citizen. And yes, be good to their stockholders too, but that used to be less important.

Now we've' mistakenly raised a generation or two of kids who apparently really believe that greed is good.
In fact there is a school of thought that says all successful companies must have purpose. Without purpose they will wither and die. If their purpose is solely to make money they will eventually fail.

Take the banks for example, their purpose was to look after our money, to keep it safe. When they had purpose they were successful and they did very well and were a force for social advancement. As soon as their sole purpose was to make money they failed and woul have died unless governments intervened.
 
No, I'm talking about trade policy. Of course every country is unique, but there are plenty of small poor countries that can't feed itself too. So using population size is just as much of a red herring as age of country (though 70 years isn't young).

Yes, the government IS punishing its citizens with these policies because it limits competition which keeps prices artificially high and merchandise selection artificially low. The only class these policies benefit is the upper class that owns a business.

And I'm not (sic) "throwing around socialistic...." I was clear about my use of that term referring to India's socialistic past, as it is a tool of socialist governments. I didn't say India is a socialistic country.
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No, India doesn't have oil. But it does have some of the world's largest sources for:

1. Natural gas
2. Iron
3. Coal
4. Manganese

Diamonds, limestone, copper, & mineral oil are also in good supply.

If you do a check on any of the international commodity markets you'll see there is a good market for these natural resources.
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Right, because they can't compete. My dad had small string of stores in rural areas. Walmart did him in. But long shot of it is the people in those towns had access to more product at lower prices and also more employment in the stores and also related.

I remember the world before Apple Stores. Computers were rarely in stock, getting a diagnosis on a broken machine took a day, no way to get free walk-in help with a simple questions years after the warranty expired. A lot of independents went out but it wasn't for naught. Apple Stores have greatly added to the whole ownership experience. I rarely buy there b/c I can find Apple products less elsewhere (again the whole competition thing) but it's great to be able to go in for service and even get my device or machine back or exchanged same day. Never happened pre-Apple Store.
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The fail is that you think this one graph showing productivity and wages in a vacuum explains something as complex as the service economy -- as if there were no outside factors affecting wages or that there should be a 1:1 ratio between productivity and income.

That said, the U.S ranks #8 in standard of living and every country above it is also a predominantly service economy -- Norway, Australia, Swiz., Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Ireland.

Assomlone who has lived in India all my life, I cannot relate to a thing you are saying. And I don't think you can be convinced otherwise as you seem to have a biased view about India. Try to think from both sides to get an unbiased perspective.
 
No, but it is prett bad there. That's part of the reason why so many Indians come to the US. In India, even if you're rich you can't escape the pollution and the corruption.

Rich Indians go to the US for different reasons. Btw. it's the rich who are mostly indulged in corruptions both in India and in the US, not the poor people!
 
the American government should look after its people just like India does... and cancel all India work visas in the USA.

Nice move? All the faux USA companies will incorporate officially abroad, and build their customer base in India, Asia and EU to levels beyond the USA, which, with its shrinking middle-class, can't compare or compete.

Not all H1-class visas are money pinching - the USA really needs qualified workers from abroad! It still imports doctors and nurses, but thankfully, not lawyers.

Don't fall for the Disney expose - it does not image the actual info-tech industry in the USA.

At the extreme, the info-tech industry will disappear from the USA, as most of the providers and clients will be European or East Asian and Indian.

The mighty military power of the USA will remain intact for a couple of decades, as more of the poor will join the military, and the current global terrorism can last a few years at least! Eventually France and Sweden, along with the rest of Europe, will supply the world's armaments. France is already making nuclear submarines for Russia; see the power of (Russia's) economic failure!

Throw in the education system, you can see even now why the USA imports "brains"!
 
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i love how europeans and anybody with a laptop seem to "know" whats best for the US; Its polls and not pools. The polls i see say he will be the next President, and he will stop all these foreign countries mistreating us like the Indian Gov. and everybody else!

I think you should have replied to the guy who wrote actually pools, and not to me. Why don't you start the preparations to celebrate his "imminent" victory and start saying Hail the Trump or Drumpf :D
 
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People keep repeating this, but it's not true. There's no such law.

In fact, some judges have ruled that bending over backwards to avoid taxes is definitely NOT a corporate requirement.

For that matter, neither is concentrating only on profits. Corporations also are supposed to take care of their customers AND employees, and in general support their neighborhoods by being a good citizen. And yes, be good to their stockholders too, but that used to be less important.

The sad thing is that we've apparently raised a generation or two of kids who really believe that greed is good. Unfortunately, they'll never know a world like we did, where our parents and their employers were loyal to each other for decades, and good pensions were the norm.

The Board of Directors (which is appointed by the shareholders) decides many of these big picture items for the company, and implements them via the CEO and other executives.

I think pensions were a great thing for people that received them and made people loyal to individual companies. However, we now know as a society that pensions are unsustainable, much like social security. This is why you do not see new companies offering them, and older companies buying out employee's pensions for lump sums.
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Nice move? All the faux USA companies will incorporate officially abroad, and build their customer base in India, Asia and EU to levels beyond the USA, which, with its shrinking middle-class, can't compare or compete.

Not all H1-class visas are money pinching - the USA really needs qualified workers from abroad! It still imports doctors and nurses, but thankfully, not lawyers.

Don't fall for the Disney expose - it does not image the actual info-tech industry in the USA.

At the extreme, the info-tech industry will disappear from the USA, as most of the providers and clients will be European or East Asian and Indian.

The mighty military power of the USA will remain intact for a couple of decades, as more of the poor will join the military, and the current global terrorism can last a few years at least! Eventually France and Sweden, along with the rest of Europe, will supply the world's armaments. France is already making nuclear submarines for Russia; see the power of (Russia's) economic failure!

Throw in the education system, you can see even now why the USA imports "brains"!


Did you just say that France will have the leading military in the world in a couple of decades?
 
We will not buy an iphone if priced at $4000 and manufactured in US.

Then it's a good thing that's not what it would cost :rolleyes:

Motorola showed that shipping parts over and assembling a phone in the US can cost less than $5 more per unit. The problem was, for Moto, even that was too high.

For a company like Apple that's been able to consistently get huge profit margins, it's doable.
 
Did you just say that France will have the leading military in the world in a couple of decades?

After the USA and Russia, France is the largest exporter of armaments in the world! USA's share is larger than the next six or ten countries combined.

My point is, in the absence of USA as an exporter (in case of isolationism), Europe is just as capable of stepping in to supply the warmongers. This is in the post-USSR era; France is actually building and supplying the (new) Russia its nuclear submarines!

Leading weapons exporter is different from leading military power. France is not spread out as thin as the USA is now.

Feel free to correct my stats!
 
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Then it's a good thing that's not what it would cost :rolleyes:

Motorola showed that shipping parts over and assembling a phone in the US can cost less than $5 more per unit. The problem was, for Moto, even that was too high.

For a company like Apple that's been able to consistently get huge profit margins, it's doable.

For sure it will cost that much if everything is manufactured in US. Do you know in some states there are people who charge $50 for a plain car wash. Never quote Moto as an example. Do you know Motorola closed Moto X US operations? PR is different from reality.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...to-xs-made-america-sign-closes-factory-texas/

http://www.cnet.com/news/motorola-to-shutter-texas-factory-building-moto-x/

Read these lines from above link

"The plant, which opened in May 2013, could not overcome some of the difficulties of domestic manufacturing. Costs for labor and shipping parts were higher than in overseas factories. That, plus poor Moto X sales, factored into the closing."

It has happened two years back and factory is closed but you are still quoting a flop example?

Apple will not do it because it wants to be in business. Do you think Apple will not learn from Moto's experiment?

$5 more is the cost of fitting the front/back panels of the phone as per the customization of the user. If Moto ships me those panels with different colors I can fit them myself. Do you think Moto can send me that extra color panel for $5 more? Not possible right for a company manufactured original panel?
 
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Have a Genius Bar and a Roti/Samosa bar. At least 30% of the items sold would be roti/samosas. Problem solved.

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Tell India you'll lobby against H1B visa's in Washington if India tries to run a scam. Their tune will change quick.
 
They are not making a moral case. This is a financial case by the finance ministry. India is not going to let an american company set up shop sell china manufactured products to India and take all the profit overseas(To Ireland?)

So there are 4 countries involved in this case. Good to know.
 
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Tell India you'll lobby against H1B visa's in Washington if India tries to run a scam. Their tune will change quick.
H1b are required by US corporations. US and India are already fighting in WTO on H1b. It will not be possible to go against H1B as world trade will be impacted which will effect the economy. If we believe that it will be stopped we will realize that we are wrong in few months. If H1b is removed more jobs will move out and US will loose taxes and business generated by that the additional population to the locals will be lost. 300+ million population cannot generate the revenue generated by world trade

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Have a Genius Bar and a Roti/Samosa bar. At least 30% of the items sold would be roti/samosas. Problem solved.

Pubb
It is a matter of time Apple will move some of its manufacturing to India. Foxconn is already working on that.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/saritha...after-china-investments-suggest/#6130c5733bb9

Looks like make in India initiative is working for them
 
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Or just pay out the lobbies to kill the problem.

Apple might be at a disadvantage here. They are culture wise squeaky clean - and with all the spotlight on them at all times, they kind of have to be too. They can't employ shady tactics such as would be used to gain favor with Indian authorities.

I'd like to see a list of companies who did get this exception ;)
 
H1B visas by the USA govt. are required because of our existing education system!

The nation that is the most innovative and inventive over the last 7-9 decades can't produce STEM students because, like Nigeria, it follows a system that requires 1/8, 1/64, etc., while it's official system is metric measures, i.e., move the dot to the left or right to calculate! Those 1/100 vs 1/128 divisions scare off the most brilliant American students off the Math, Physics, Chemistry and digital age, as early as 7 years of age!

That childhood trauma makes the most brilliant students in the USA avoid the STEM courses in high school and college, resulting in more literature and sociology graduates from its great colleges! Because, sociology is more fun than bubbles, i.e., surface tension!

National education standards - let us get behind that concept!
 
haha having visited 8-10 times and having family there trust me .0001% of population is sitting on 4k tv's and high end Mac Pros........no one is using that tech over there......this has nothing to do with tech and everything having to do with local politics....if you don't know about how Indian political system works you can't understand whats really going on

Yeah and 99.99% of the population still charms snakes and do rope tricks. Sheesh! Western mindsets. I'm sure many more than 0.0001% use 4K TVs. I live there.
 
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The iPhone SE costs USD 585 in India. The point here is the import duties make the phone expensive. If phone is locally assembled then the import duties go away bringing down cost automatically. So it's actually a win win for Apple and INDIAN customers to make in India.
 
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WTF have you been smoking buddy? Source please.

During the Ukraine crisis France suspended delivery of two warships, already paid for by Russia, in late 2014. They are definitely not submarines; I misquoted that part.

www . defenseindustrydaily . com/

It is India that is buying submarines from France.

Wrote that while distracted - Sorry. Even under Putin's "reclaiming of Russia' Glory" push, they were economically struggling to focus on spending on offensive armaments as some of those yards were thinned out.

Russia's economy is worse since 2014.
 
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