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Facebook, Alibaba, Epic…. Yuck I can smell the ad-laden 4chan meets Cyberpunk 2023 from here.
Does Germany ban Facebook or any other social media platforms? Or is there something specific to the Quest hardware that it is banning?
Something to do with requiring a Facebook Login to use it and FB fighting with the local anti trust division over privacy concerns so FB was like "well F this, then we will just not sell it there"
Good for Germany! I had to make a Facebook account to use the Quest 2. Facebook already had my info as I bought the original Oculus Rift so they had my purchase details and info. My Facebook account has zero friends and zero activity, just the barebones to allow me to use the Quest 2. Everything is set to private on it as well so they are not getting anything from me outside of what I play and use in VR. The Facebook requirement thing is supposed to be removed soon.
Wasn’t Roblox one of the first to bring up the “metaverse”? Didn’t they imagine people walking around virtually together and playing games with each other? Sort of one huge lobby for all of the games on Roblox currently? Interesting they’re absent from this while it seems like these other companies are running with what might have been their idea.
I’d like to think this is due to Apple’s ethical concern with the sovereign individual’s rights / privacy or some such, but most often it seems to be about who’s gettin paid.
Because the “meta verse” is a poisonous scam.
The way companies like Facebook are doing it, they collect every piece of biometric data even what your eyes look at.
The way these idiots are already testing it, their virtual worlds are already full of:
- racism
- sexual harassment
- adult enactments in front of underage people
- scams
- users asked to download malware
It’s impossible to moderate.
Apple hates chaos systems where users are harmed.
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The way companies like Facebook are doing it, they collect every piece of biometric data even what your eyes look at.
The way these idiots are already testing it, their virtual worlds are already full of:
- racism
- sexual harassment
- adult enactments in front of underage people
- scams
- users asked to download malware
It’s impossible to moderate.
Apple hates chaos systems where users are harmed.
A researcher's avatar was sexually assaulted on a metaverse platform owned by Meta, making her the latest victim of sexual abuse on Meta's platforms, watchdog says
Within an hour of logging on to Meta's Horizon Worlds, a researcher said her avatar was raped, according to a report.
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It's not that far away. If you check out Half-Life Alyx, you can see the quality of the graphics, and it's improving all the time. As the technology gets smaller, it will be adopted more quickly.
Whether it's a good or bad thing however, is open for debate.
Yeah we should put a stop to that and anything like it.... or wait, you literally just described the internet and all social media today.Because the “meta verse” is a poisonous scam.
The way companies like Facebook are doing it, they collect every piece of biometric data even what your eyes look at.
The way these idiots are already testing it, their virtual worlds are already full of:
- racism
- sexual harassment
- adult enactments in front of underage people
- scams
- users asked to download malware
It’s impossible to moderate.
Apple hates chaos systems where users are harmed.
A researcher's avatar was sexually assaulted on a metaverse platform owned by Meta, making her the latest victim of sexual abuse on Meta's platforms, watchdog says
Within an hour of logging on to Meta's Horizon Worlds, a researcher said her avatar was raped, according to a report.
A barrage of assault, racism and rape jokes: my nightmare trip into the metaverse
A new documentary sees a reporter don a VR headset and head into the world that’s supposed to be our future. Within 10 minutes, she had witnessed the most disturbing sights of her life – in a space seven-year-olds can access
Racism could ruin the metaverse if tech doesn't improve diversity now, CTO warns: 'It absolutely is a problem'
The tech industry hasn't closed its diversity gap. Here's how some experts are trying to ensure virtual worlds are welcoming to users and creators of color.
Cybercriminals target metaverse investors with phishing scams
Fraudsters are targeting the metaverse with phishing scams to steal land from investors.
No eye tracking in the Quest 2, that will need some new hardware for that, but it is coming with the next release.
Are you using VR at all in any social way? The only place I have seen what you describe is in VRChat, which I agree is chaos. Here is the thing, you don't have to use it, and parents should be monitoring their kids and the content they consume. Yes I know, that is hard.... parenting is not supposed to be easy and tech and the internet are really not must haves to have a happy life.
There is a great app called RecRoom, recently discovered it with some friends. It is on every device, not just VR. Super fun stuff to do as a group. It has become a highlight in VR, playing out fun quick quests to bowling, golf or dodge ball, among other things.
Apple should not get within a 1000 miles of this evil company called Facebook/Meta. ..I still believe that humanity will wake up one day and Facebook/Meta and the likes will all be extinct...RIP Steve, thanks Tim for still keeping Apple's commitment to stay at the "intersection of technology and the humanity"!
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Whenever I read articles about the Metaverse, I think about the movie "Ready Player One"
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Ensuring the point of entry is as frictionless as possible for 3rd parties to join/support/help establish your new ecosystem, via standardization, is smart. I can see why it would be in Meta’s best interest to do so. Problem is, they’ve had devices out for how many years without this standardization? Why not launch with these partnerships and standards in place? Would make for a more powerful stance out of the gate. With an Apple keynote looming, these efforts feel a bit too late.
Not since the ‘07 iPhone keynote have I been as interested in what Apple has up their sleeve regarding HUD. And not because I think a HUD is as in-demand as the iPhone was in ‘07 (it’s not, not even close), but more because I do think it will take a new, seemingly niche and confusing market and give it relevance and clarity for the masses in a way not yet seen. And from what many are saying here, not thought possible. I suspect many of the nay-sayers will find themselves in the pre-order queue with the rest of us who are curious about such things.
I have to believe Apple already has partners developing apps for their ecosystem under strict NDAs. And at launch, those partnerships will be revealed (likely toward the end of the keynote as a way of saying that they’re serious and this is real), as well as a new mixed-reality standardization protocol with some big name partners already signed on. Apple has the benefit of a passionate and massive user base. They know they’ll recoup R&D with this first wave of early adopters. And that though the success of their first iteration, those vendors not yet signed on will be falling over themselves to get in the game.
Regardless of how any of the above plays out, or not, the very last thing humanity need is standardizing anything Meta. I have zero interest in anything they’re doing/planning on any level. And I’m not the only one who feels the same.
Should be interesting to watch unfold.
Not since the ‘07 iPhone keynote have I been as interested in what Apple has up their sleeve regarding HUD. And not because I think a HUD is as in-demand as the iPhone was in ‘07 (it’s not, not even close), but more because I do think it will take a new, seemingly niche and confusing market and give it relevance and clarity for the masses in a way not yet seen. And from what many are saying here, not thought possible. I suspect many of the nay-sayers will find themselves in the pre-order queue with the rest of us who are curious about such things.
I have to believe Apple already has partners developing apps for their ecosystem under strict NDAs. And at launch, those partnerships will be revealed (likely toward the end of the keynote as a way of saying that they’re serious and this is real), as well as a new mixed-reality standardization protocol with some big name partners already signed on. Apple has the benefit of a passionate and massive user base. They know they’ll recoup R&D with this first wave of early adopters. And that though the success of their first iteration, those vendors not yet signed on will be falling over themselves to get in the game.
Regardless of how any of the above plays out, or not, the very last thing humanity need is standardizing anything Meta. I have zero interest in anything they’re doing/planning on any level. And I’m not the only one who feels the same.
Should be interesting to watch unfold.
Well Meta is not technically Facebook and they no longer require Facebook to link in... but I get your point.
The point of this I believe is to have standards so there are seamless entry points to experiences and games. Like Ready player one. It's possible that this could happen with multiple game engines Services / devices. This is a good thing.
I am 99% sure that Apple are holding their cards close to their chest as I am sure they will even say to those group at the moment "VR/AR headset - Nope. No idea what you are talking about - wink wink"
I am 99% sure that Apple are holding their cards close to their chest as I am sure they will even say to those group at the moment "VR/AR headset - Nope. No idea what you are talking about - wink wink"
Or they want a proprietary setup that won't fit into what the other companies are working on together.
I don’t think Apple’s non-participation is terribly surprising. It seems like Apple’s VR plans are independent from the Metaverse idea. This seems to be for the metaverse what the W3C (and the IETF) are for the Internet/WWW. I’m not sure Apple’s really interested in the whole federated VR global namespace thing Facebook is trying to do, so it doesn’t make sense for them to participate in a forum meant to promote interoperability within the federated Metaverse idea.
In a certain sense, all this Metaverse business is just an extension to what Facebook was/is trying to do with Internet.org, and because Facebook desperately wants to be something more than that company that owns those social networks. They want to be something more foundational to net infrastructure instead of being one app that runs on the Internet and could be displaced by the next startup (who could easily do to Facebook what Facebook did to MySpace).
In a certain sense, all this Metaverse business is just an extension to what Facebook was/is trying to do with Internet.org, and because Facebook desperately wants to be something more than that company that owns those social networks. They want to be something more foundational to net infrastructure instead of being one app that runs on the Internet and could be displaced by the next startup (who could easily do to Facebook what Facebook did to MySpace).