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jwdsail

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2004
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Sigh.

So, increasing the likelihood of consumer confusion and increasing the likelihood of damaged new iPhones and/or old AirPod cases...

Brilliant!

I mean, this will likely lead to people having both USBC and Lighting cables at their desk/bed to charge their phone and AirPods at the same time, and will increase the possibility that ... at some point, someone will damage one or the other by forcing the wrong cable into the wrong port..

There's *plenty* of non-techy people out there who will just assume that their "iPhone cable" should just work with their new *iPhone*.. preventing their younger family members a relatively affordable way (compared to replacing the perfectly functional AirPods) to prevent this ... sigh.

I wonder how much force is required to make someone stop, or before something.. you know.. breaks?

Sigh

SMFH
 

Analog Kid

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Mar 4, 2003
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probably made by many of the same people now moaning about having to buy new cables

Just as probably not... It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that way but there's a million people on MacRumors. It's easy to get them all confused together because so many share the same depressing outlook on life, but if you actually trace post histories you'll find they're different people.
 

Analog Kid

macrumors G3
Mar 4, 2003
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Sigh.

So, increasing the likelihood of consumer confusion and increasing the likelihood of damaged new iPhones and/or old AirPod cases...

Brilliant!

I mean, this will likely lead to people having both USBC and Lighting cables at their desk/bed to charge their phone and AirPods at the same time, and will increase the possibility that ... at some point, someone will damage one or the other by forcing the wrong cable into the wrong port..

There's *plenty* of non-techy people out there who will just assume that their "iPhone cable" should just work with their new *iPhone*.. preventing their younger family members a relatively affordable way (compared to replacing the perfectly functional AirPods) to prevent this ... sigh.

I wonder how much force is required to make someone stop, or before something.. you know.. breaks?

Sigh

SMFH

Sorry, I can't tell anymore... Is this satire?
 

A1423

macrumors regular
Jan 18, 2023
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Actually, you can buy the new charging case separately. It just requires a bit of out-of-the-box thinking...

Just go to the AirPods support page and claim that you have lost the charging case. Then you can buy it for $99.

The USB-C charging case is already listed as one of the available options:

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Now the real question is... who is really going to spend $99 just to get a different connector on a stupid charging case? Is it really bothering you so much to carry one extra lightning cable when you're travelling?

I’d rather sell my existing for $125 and buy new at Costco or something. I’m in the same place with brand new AirPods Pro and a brand new case.
 
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BillyBurke

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Sep 25, 2014
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My nightly charging station includes a "pip" for the lightning AirPods, a "Q" pad for my current IP13Mini (and prospective 15PRO) , and a puck for my AW7. Off site, the AirPods (my current version) will wirelessly charge. What is the fuss all about? Yes, if you charge your AirPods by cable, you need one with Lightning on one end. You already have that cable, don't you?
 
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BillyBurke

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Sep 25, 2014
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Can't believe there are still people who defend Apple's decision to switch to USB-C. They did it to make us buy all the accessories once again. It's pure planned obsolescence and you're defending this.
Are you totally clueless? They were FORCED into the switch by EU regulations. Either abandon Europeans sales or switch to a common charging solution. They did what the HAD to do, not to irritate Luddites in the USA.
 

jwdsail

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2004
810
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Sorry, I can't tell anymore... Is this satire?

Well, bless your heart.

You've never walked into a home (or office, sigh) and found a USB thumb drive forced into an Ethernet port.. have you?

Or a USB cable forced into a HDMI port?

Good times.

A lot of people underestimate how stubborn someone can be when they're convinced that they're absolutely going to get that cable into that port... one way or another.

lol.

Sigh.

You can probably tell the difference between USB-A, Micro-USB, USB-C, and MiniDP blindfolded.. I'd say that the vast majority of people in these comments can do so by sight/careful examination at least.. Those that don't know the difference ... outnumber us 1000/1.

I'm counting the days until a Lightning cable is forced into a USB-C iPhone. Or a USB-C cable is forced into an AirPods case.

It'll happen.

More than once.
 

Peepo

macrumors 65816
Jun 18, 2009
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If Apple offered a new case purchase... then what happens to the old lightning cases? Will people just throw them away?

I rarely charge my 2nd Gen Airpods Pro using lightning port, and instead set it on the wireless charger every few days.
 

123jmail

macrumors newbie
Jun 18, 2007
14
4
People upgrading their perfectly-working AirPods cases just for a new connector aren't being green, either. Someone taking potshots at Apple about their environmental record and still upgrading their phones every year likewise have no ground to stand on.
I don't know; maybe they are justified in their comments. The individuals taking those potshots aren't necessarily trying to convince others they are concerned about the environment; Apple is. It seems reasonable in my mind for them to be able to call Apple to task, but I could be wrong.
 

Analog Kid

macrumors G3
Mar 4, 2003
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Well, bless your heart.

You've never walked into a home (or office, sigh) and found a USB thumb drive forced into an Ethernet port.. have you?

Or a USB cable forced into a HDMI port?

Good times.

A lot of people underestimate how stubborn someone can be when they're convinced that they're absolutely going to get that cable into that port... one way or another.

lol.

Sigh.

You can probably tell the difference between USB-A, Micro-USB, USB-C, and MiniDP blindfolded.. I'd say that the vast majority of people in these comments can do so by sight/careful examination at least.. Those that don't know the difference ... outnumber us 1000/1.

I'm counting the days until a Lightning cable is forced into a USB-C iPhone. Or a USB-C cable is forced into an AirPods case.

It'll happen.

More than once.

I think you just made the case for people doing stupid stuff two days ago and continuing to do stupid stuff tomorrow. I'm not sure how it ties to the conversation.

I guess satire seemed likely because people are going pretty far out on their limbs to paint Apple badly from all directions-- profiteering, polluting, and whatever else-- so the argument that it's all Apple's fault that people are going to push when the door says "pull" felt like a sendup.
 
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iBug2

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Jun 12, 2005
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I really don't know why Apple would offer a separate case, and why would anyone buy it? You still have your functioning case. Charge it with lightning cable, which you also have.
 
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Jolson247

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Jan 18, 2009
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This seems like a non-issue for me (and most other people), and definitely not a reason to upgrade/replace a pair of perfectly good AirPod Pro 2s. I doubt I've charged my case/earbuds with anything other than an Apple MagSafe puck since I bought them and, even then, I prob only need to charge them once or twice a month for about an hour to top off the case battery.
 
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JippaLippa

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Jan 14, 2013
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Since the addition of the wireless case, this is pretty much a useless upgrade.
I see no need to upgrade only for the USB-C case.
 
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BipedalOS

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Jul 9, 2022
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I’m sure they’ll be a class action for not selling a USB-C case and hopefully ever current owner gets one free
 

ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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Sep 18, 2018
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I’m sure Apple can recycle all those fully capable of doing lossless audio but not allowed to AirPods Pro 2 with Lightning and turn them into braided FineWoven USB-C cables and sell them to you for the low, low price of just $49.

There’s just no stopping Apple and (the actress they pay to play) Mother Nature when they get together and fight tooth and nail to save the World from mountains of unnecessary e-waste and excessive consumption!

🍏🌱

/s
 

Lakersfan74

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Oct 17, 2019
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I just tried to stick my lightning end into my work phone USB-C port. The lightning cable end won’t even fit between the USB-C tab and walls easily. Took more force than what you would normally use to plug in a cable
 

Pianoplayah

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Sep 30, 2020
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I’m sure they’ll be a class action for not selling a USB-C case and hopefully ever current owner gets one free
Lol what? I’m not saying it’s not annoying but they have no obligation. They can update their products whenever and however they like as long as they work as advertised.
 

ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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Sep 18, 2018
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Boo hoo. Instead of whining sell your lightning AirPods Pro 2 for $225 and buy a USBC pair. Boom. 25 bucks problem solved. People are so whiny.
If there was some new hardware component in USB-C APP2 then you might have a point.

Apple could literally put out a new iPhone 15 Pro in 6 months where they software enable Thunderbolt transfer speeds but you don’t get it if you bought a 15 Pro at launch even though the hardware is the same and you’d say people are just whiny.

What Apple doing here is the definition of planned obsolescence and one of the main reasons the World is looking like it does today.
 

Lakersfan74

macrumors 6502a
Oct 17, 2019
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I’m not seeing the similarities between changing the port, and making a port to be faster, so those are two different things
 

Pianoplayah

macrumors member
Sep 30, 2020
52
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If there was some new hardware component in USB-C APP2 then you might have a point.

Apple could literally put out a new iPhone 15 Pro in 6 months where they software enable Thunderbolt transfer speeds but you don’t get it if you bought a 15 Pro at launch even though the hardware is the same and you’d say people are just whiny.

What Apple doing here is the definition of planned obsolescence and one of the main reasons the World is looking like it does today.
Apples and oranges. You don’t need to transfer data to the AirPods. I’d bet money that most people charge them wirelessly anyway. I use MagSafe and I have a watch so if I don’t have a lightning cable or MagSafe I probably have my watch charger. They’re not obsolete in the slightest. Your trash will be another person’s treasure who doesn’t give a damn about the charging port.
 
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magicMac

macrumors 6502a
Apr 13, 2010
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AirPods have gone really down hill in my opinion, overpriced and full of gimmicks.

In my personal experience you can get a better wireless headphone experience using third party BT headphones. I have a pair of JLab POP buds that pair instantly, sound great and have no more latency than AirPods.

Or just use wired headphones; Particularly now the iPhone supports USB-C you can use any wired headphones with an 3.5mm adapter or a pair of USB-C headphones, to get lossless audio, without all the compression/latency/spacial/dolby nonsense.

I don't need a "find my" feature for my £25 wired or wireless headphones, because if I lost them I would just get another pair. If someone is talking to me I just simply remove one of the buds from my ear to hear.

It's possible to have too much technology that it starts to become less enjoyable. I couldn't wait to flog my AirPods 3.
 

bgillander

macrumors 6502a
Jul 14, 2007
510
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Well, bless your heart.

You've never walked into a home (or office, sigh) and found a USB thumb drive forced into an Ethernet port.. have you?

Or a USB cable forced into a HDMI port?

Good times.

A lot of people underestimate how stubborn someone can be when they're convinced that they're absolutely going to get that cable into that port... one way or another.

lol.

Sigh.

You can probably tell the difference between USB-A, Micro-USB, USB-C, and MiniDP blindfolded.. I'd say that the vast majority of people in these comments can do so by sight/careful examination at least.. Those that don't know the difference ... outnumber us 1000/1.

I'm counting the days until a Lightning cable is forced into a USB-C iPhone. Or a USB-C cable is forced into an AirPods case.

It'll happen.

More than once.
Sure, and this change will have very little to do with those problems.

People have just used the power cord that came with their device for pretty much a century, and only recently have a fairly large number of these become interchangeable. The AirPods come with a cable that the vast majority of people will simply use and not think twice about, be it Lightning or now USB-C. The people that actually care only care because they are aware of the difference, and those people are not the ones sticking devices in the wrong port (unless, of course, it is in the back of a computer under a dark desk.😀)

This is another MR story designed to kick up as much indignation as possible, just to get clicks.

Apple was damned if they changed it and damned if they didn’t, so they changed the AirPod Pro charge case and iPhone at the same time. The cable that comes with the new device will work with the new device. The cable that came with the older device will still work with the older device, and most people understand that, since that is how it has always been. Accidents will happen, but the techies are the ones intentionally swapping cables and they do know the difference.
 
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