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Actually, I did NOT say, "well its fine to branch to places where they can be better." I wrote: "But those products stand out from the competition by being better." If you're just going to make stuff up, don't misuse adjectives like "accretive" as verbs. Apple is not going to prosper making TV sets, or cars, or routers. We all have those already, and Apple's price margin philosophy would force them to attempt to cannibalize the markets of Samsung, Sony, Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Cisco, NetGear, Linksys and other well established marques. That means their expensive offerings in those arenas would have to be so much better than the competition that people would switch from consumer durables that last years or decades regardless of cost.

Apple is now what's known as a "mature" technology company. They produce highly desirable products that have short to mid-term cycle upgrades, along with services that carry far higher margins than their hardware.

You're welcome for the education in the sole purpose of business: make money.

You excused their making of certain doodads because "they stand out". Somehow, in your confusion, you exclude their being able to make routers stand out. Despite the fact that they've already done so.

Something accretive to their bottom line expresses it's good to their bottom line. I know you had to open a dictionary for that. So look up "good" -- it's also an adjective.

The world already had headphones from Bose and Sony and Bowers and Sennheiser and AT and Apple chose to enter the category.

Being a mature anything company is exactly the reason to seek categories for growth. Mature companies aren't rewarded with high multiples.

Who or why did you think advocated for Apple making products to lose money. Do you have issues with reading comprehension?
 
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You excused their making of certain doodads because "they stand out". Somehow, in your confusion, you exclude their being able to make routers stand out. Despite the fact that they've already done so.

Something accretive to their bottom line expresses it's good to their bottom line. I know you had to open a dictionary for that. So look up "good" -- it's also an adjective.

The world already had headphones from Bose and Sony and Bowers and Sennheiser and AT and Apple chose to enter the category.

Being a mature anything company is exactly the reason to seek categories for growth. Mature companies aren't rewarded with high multiples.

Who or why did you think advocated for Apple making products to lose money. Do you have issues with reading comprehension?
Nope, I can read you like a book, thanks!
 
I still have the airports - can’t even sell on Facebook marketplace for $19 lol 😆
I had the first gen. AirPort Express in use for 10 years. First as main wifi AP, later as a secondary AP next to the 1st gen AirPort Extreme. Worked great for years where I lived back then; most of my neighbours had no wifi. Never saw any reason to get the newer models during that time. I had all my computers mostly on wired ethernet.

Rs600 $499 by night hawk nether
Years a ago I installed a R7000 Night Hawk modem/router at a friend's house. I liked Netgear stuff back then, but after two years I got disappointed by their firmware support. The R7000 wifi didn't perform as good/fast as advertised. The router UI was sluggish and at random moments it changed the subnet configuration from 10.0.xx.xx to 192.168.xx.xx for no logical reason. But when I found out that HomeKit and other IPv6 multicast protocols like Bonjour were disrupted by the Netgear GS-line switches we had, sold it all. Reported all the bugs, but hardly got response and when they did respond, it was a basic template email basically saying that I had to buy new. So I did... from a different brand. :cool:

Please make routers again! Time Capsule was incredible, and made backups for regular people’s Macs so easy. And this could also push HomeKit into more homes, giving more Apple users a Thread/Matter hub.
TimeCapsule was great, but it was vulnerable for problems. A friends of mine had these and one of them I had to completely clear its disk a few times because it got corrupted quickly. Much later I found out that it was partly cause by the first versions of the TimeMachine protocol, and power outages that had occurred. The HFS+ disk format could not always recover automatically from those incidents. So, if Apple designs a new TC, they better use at least two disks and a more robust file system. But I doubt that they will.
But I'm in the market for a PoE powered wifi AP with supporting Thread border router. Would fit perfectly in a future workshop.

WiFi 6E? I would hope they have WiFi 7! Im a network engineer but I still use AirPorts and Time Capsules at my house, they work great up to 1gbps wireless speed with MIMO on a private DFS channel (forced with a hack), also still have an AirPort Express for Airplay use. I do wish they had some 2.5g or 10g ports on them and faster access speed on the TimeCapsule as I use it for file sharing. There is no big practical advantage with 6 or 6E but I might finally upgrade when WiFi 7 comes out on the MacBook line.
I liked the Airport devices - they indeed just-worked. The big plus was that they supported IPv6 from day one. The negatives were the very limited firewall options and it only supported ethernet WAN. For two decades I've been using Draytek modem/routers because of their built-in modem, extended firewall, IPv6 support. Combined with a Apple Airport Express and Extreme it worked perfect in a time when very few neighbours around my house had wifi back then.
When I moved to a bigger house 7 years ago, the Airport Extreme couldn't cover the area anymore. The internal antennas were not that perfect, plus the European Airport model's are more limited in RF power and the US models. With more interfering wifi signals from the new neighbours, our wifi was annoyingly slower than in my previous house with the same Airport Extreme. It got so annoying that I rapidly replaced the Airport Extreme with a professional AP: WAX650S (PoE, 2.5G ethernet, wifi6). Up to today that one single unit covers the whole house with way more bandwidth than we had. With growing kids that use more wifi these days with iCloud services, streaming services, TimeMachine backups, video calls, Airplay and other bandwidth demanding tasks, it was a good purchase.
 
What routers are considered the best nowadays? I have an Asus that has been decent, but I’d prefer good or great to decent.
Ubiquiti’s gear is “the apple of network gear”, and the company was started I believe (someone correct if I’m wrong) by former Apple folks. More prosumer or SMB on their unifi line than pure consumer, but solid and well built.

Netgear’s mesh systems are pretty great too, more directly consumer oriented
 
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Ubiquiti’s gear is “the apple of network gear”, and the company was started I believe (someone correct if I’m wrong) by former Apple folks. More prosumer or SMB on their unifi line than pure consumer, but solid and well built.

Netgear’s mesh systems are pretty great too, more directly consumer oriented
Yeah I just recently got Ubiquiti Unifi router for first time and whole package and style of router etc reminds me so much of Apple and even their software side looks nice and polished with all advance stuff.
 
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