This will never see the inside of a courtroom for trial. At most it will be settled for a tiny amount. Apple didn't break any laws. They were not straightforward or honest, but nothing illegal.
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Apple Now Faces More Than 60 Class Actions Over iPhone Slowdowns, Consolidation Likely Next Month
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The classic case of people not knowing anything until someone found out about it. Suddenly all become battery experts (They are right and Apple is wrong).
The 5s is more prone to "crashes" as it ages, which is exactly the point here. Presumably they got to the point where they could better control the power/performance ratio in newer phones/IOS versions. But since American society has taught us we must assume the worst in people we get this crap...
I had no idea how batteries affected CPU performance until last year (or actually the year I upgraded my iOS).
What's going to be funny is seeing how many people who weren't even affected by this issue get extremely upset about this lawsuit failing. It's almost as if good news about Apple is actually bad news.
And this is what I think will sink the lawsuits. I'm betting Apple tracks the number of users who choose either method. If most people choose the slowdown then it proves Apple made the right decision for the majority of their users.
The only thing Apple did wrong was not properly tell people. And I'm not sure how that's worth any money/compensation.
GO GET EM!!! I had a terrible experience trying to get my iPhone battery replaced at the Apple store yesterday. I hope Apple gets hit and hit and hit again with lawsuit after lawsuit regarding this issue.
What if Apple had done nothing and just let phones start randomly crashing? Do you not think that there would have been a class action lawsuit?
And why weren't they straight forward? Because they would have had to acknowledge a defect.
But you are right, no laws were broken, but this is not a criminal case it's a civil case, and one Apple will lose.
Did you even knew your iPhone was slowed down because of the battery before Apple got caught? People were buying new devices when they only needed a new batteries, Apple knew about this and they were happy about that $$$. Even if you knew, you do understad that random shutdows because of crappy or underpoweed batteries is also bad right?
Everbody was actually blind before.
How did the choice end up between crashes and slowdowns?
When a battery ages, it doesn't last as long, period. It shouldn't reduce performance, it shouldn't crash, it should just empty quicker.
I've thought about these lawsuits, and their ilk, and here's what I do if I support a company that gets hit with them:
I join in the class, and when I get my check from them, I buy more of their products.
The way I figure it, someone is getting the money, and I may as well feed it back into the company I like.
I join in the class, and when I get my check from them, I buy more of their products.
The way I figure it, someone is getting the money, and I may as well feed it back into the company I like.
I cant believe you still do not understand its not about batteries.
It's the perfect way to win money from a large corporation. The majority of these people aren't suing because of the iPhone slowdown.
A lot of people here are confusing filing a class action with winning a class action settlement. They're years away from that, even on the unlikely chance these continue to be allowed to move forward.
Accusation and guilt are two different things. Remember that.
Accusation and guilt are two different things. Remember that.
Some very naive and misinformed comments bordering on ignorant. I understand product loyalty short of wearing an Apple Baseball Cap 24/7 and stickering my Car's bumper with the supplied apple stickers from purchases but this class action lawsuit is no joke and w Apples admission it just further insures that there will be payouts or some form of settlement on Apples behalf. A righteous and honorable thing to do as well as keeping the customer from straying would be to offer a substantial discount coupon on future purchases.
This has been a complete PR nightmare for Apple and i'm sure their legal team is trying to make the negative publicity go away asap. Regardless IMHO its been happening for a long time and again IMHO they very well could have been doing it with computers as well. From my personal experience I had 2 MB Airs (2011 & 2014) that after some time and upgrading to a new iOS build both the motherboard and HD mysteriously fried (no major wear on both machines. just basics). 2x's this happened. My iPhone 6plus was also the victim of this unsavory practice courtesy of Apple. Serious indictments I admit but they are strictly and solely my personal opinion based on my personal experience and after serious consideration "coincidence" did not enter the equation.
My Macbook Pro w Touchbar only gets a OS upgrade up to 2 years. After that forget it.
This has been a complete PR nightmare for Apple and i'm sure their legal team is trying to make the negative publicity go away asap. Regardless IMHO its been happening for a long time and again IMHO they very well could have been doing it with computers as well. From my personal experience I had 2 MB Airs (2011 & 2014) that after some time and upgrading to a new iOS build both the motherboard and HD mysteriously fried (no major wear on both machines. just basics). 2x's this happened. My iPhone 6plus was also the victim of this unsavory practice courtesy of Apple. Serious indictments I admit but they are strictly and solely my personal opinion based on my personal experience and after serious consideration "coincidence" did not enter the equation.
My Macbook Pro w Touchbar only gets a OS upgrade up to 2 years. After that forget it.
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Wrong. A defective battery can have 100% of its capacity but still cause a random shutdown.
This is getting ridiculous. Apple will likely settle these cases if they have any merit to being with. A horde of greedy people with the army of their lawyers are about to enrich themselves while making the products we all love more expensive for the rest of us.
This is really annoying. It's a feature. Not a fault.
This is really annoying. It's a feature. Not a fault.
CPU throttling is common practice. No PC manufacturer ever tells their users that their PC's are not running as fast because they have to replace the thermal paste on their CPU's....
I personally think companies should tell their users, but if Apple is going under for this, so should all other companies.
What is astounding is the lack of technological education that people should have in the 21st century.
Are you a lawyer? or are you the judge and jury?
My flashlights will act wonky from time to time. Replacing or recharging the batteries solves the problem.
Actually, I know people who throw away good machines because they don't know how to repair them - or simply re-set a circuit breaker. And I know people who take their phones in to have someone in the phone store update their OS for them, even after receiving step-by-step instructions on how to update themselves.
Are you a lawyer? or are you the judge and jury?
My flashlights will act wonky from time to time. Replacing or recharging the batteries solves the problem.
Actually, I know people who throw away good machines because they don't know how to repair them - or simply re-set a circuit breaker. And I know people who take their phones in to have someone in the phone store update their OS for them, even after receiving step-by-step instructions on how to update themselves.
You know how class action lawsuits work? The ELEVEN litigants in the Heartland Data Breach got $200 EACH - and that was an open and shut case!
A lot of willful ignorance going on in here. That, or trolls, not sure. Apple screwed up and people had to buy new phones because their current phones were running like crap while the "genius bar" was telling them their batteries were A-ok.
And you can't sue just because a company handled something 'badly' - you have to demonstrate actual received harm from this.
I got a new battery put into my 6 last week. I don't feel like this new battery lasts any longer than my old one did. I don't have data or specific testing to prove this, just seems to have the same amount of juice left at the end of a day as I always do.
So do I need to adjust my expectations of this new battery? Should it last as long as it did when my 6 was new? Or does the software in the aging phone limit the battery life that's possible? I'm glad it was only $29, but it seems like it didn't do a lot of good...thoughts?
So do I need to adjust my expectations of this new battery? Should it last as long as it did when my 6 was new? Or does the software in the aging phone limit the battery life that's possible? I'm glad it was only $29, but it seems like it didn't do a lot of good...thoughts?
Which, chances are if any recent class action lawsuits are anything to go buy, will range from nothing to a quick metaphorical slap on the hand.