While it may not be unique to Apple, that still doesn't make it "normal battery behavior."
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Apple Now Faces More Than 60 Class Actions Over iPhone Slowdowns, Consolidation Likely Next Month
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While it may not be unique to Apple, that still doesn't make it "normal battery behavior."
As the stock trades $1 from an all time high.
Remember kids, class actions don’t work and this was a loose case anyway. Apple managed the situation well and will move on.
Remember kids, class actions don’t work and this was a loose case anyway. Apple managed the situation well and will move on.
Battery technology is more than a factor of capacity. You need to do a little more research on your end.
So why don't other products exhibit this same behavior? I've owned dozens of Apple products with batteries and not one did this.
Actually, what you should be repeating is that this issue has nothing to do with batteries period. It has to do with poor phone design.
Peak battery voltage on a Lithium does NOT decline until it's nearly dead, only when it's near to it's final hours it will decline, heck, probably a lot faster than a few last hours.
Edit: FYI, Voltage will drop only if the battery can't deliver the current needed, if it can the voltage will remain at the same level.
Interesting. Over the years, I've used many pieces of electronics, and generally they don't just randomly stop working when the battery is still well over half full. Guess I've been lucky, eh?
Anyway, fortunately for consumers, it doesn't really matter what you think. Phew. Also fortunately, it's a legal issue (which your "defense" is not).
Like most class action cases, this thing will go to a settlement, and everyone except the lawyers will get a couple peanuts or a voucher for even more peanuts. Standard practice. If you think this case is going to just disappear and be dismissed, you're ignorant of how things work in the American legal system.
I'm surprised (not really) that some people think that these lawsuits are about battery quality. The lawsuits are alleging that Apple concealed both the cause (aging battery) and remedy (replace battery) from customers. Instead, Apple inserted some discreet "power management" software to prevent phones from crashing when power demands exceeded a battery's potential. Some say the occurrence is an engineering flaw shared by certain models. Along with normal performance degradation due to an aging battery, customers naturally assumed that the phone's hardware was somehow "wore out" or unsuited to handle the latest OS upgrades. Even if you suspected the battery, Apple's diagnostic test deemed many of those batteries healthy.
Apple didn't plan this, but they nonetheless exploited people's ignorance. They disguised the power deficit, denied they resorted to throttling, and discouraged affected customers from replacing the battery.
Apple didn't plan this, but they nonetheless exploited people's ignorance. They disguised the power deficit, denied they resorted to throttling, and discouraged affected customers from replacing the battery.
Logical fallacy. What other products may or may not do under varying circumstances has nothing to do with this particular issue affecting Apple.
Poor iPhone design? Please give us your detailed engineering analysis of where the problem is with the iPhone.
I don't need to be a battery expert to understand that a phone crashing as it ages (less than 2 years) is a poorly designed phone. I've had every iPhone released since the iPhone 3 and not one exhibited this behavior. So, it's not a battery issue, it's a phone design issue that Apple tried to cover up.
Now, please pray tell where did I state that I said that would be result. I stated that it has a likelihood of not making it to settlement but, even if it did, the payouts would be minute (hence me referencing the Heartland Data breach)
Care to show MY posts where I stated ANYTHING other than this?
And since it's a legal issue, it'll be dealt on legal grounds - you can't sue because you're just unhappy...
For those of you hoping to see Apple hit hard financially over this I think you are going to be sorely disappointed. This will take years to litigate and will eventually end in a settlement in which Apple admits no guilt and the lawyers get their millions. The actual plaintiffs will get an iTunes gift card for maybe $25. And if you think for one moment this will end any differently then you don’t know how these class actions go. The plaintiffs have absolutely no evidence to prove Apple intentionally did this to force people to buy a new iPhone. You may believe this claim with all your heart but it will take a smoking gun memo from upper management to prove it. It’s all about intent with this kind of stuff isn’t it. That’s why it will end with the settlement I mentioned above. Sorry, but you MR trolls just don’t get it do you?
I can't believe that you are working this hard to defend Apple.
I'm just going to get myself in more trouble with the moderators responding to this ridiculous nonsense.
This conversation can serve no purpose anymore, goodbye.
They're suing because Apple didn't understand how batteries work when they designed the iPhone 6/6s.
Lucky you. My 3gs and 4s both exhibited this behavior. It just told me i needed to replace the battery so I did..
As much as I like Apple, and how I've been so loyal to their brand for over 2 decades, this is wrong. What's worse is people making comments like yours that see something like this as the customer's fault, and hope they lose the lawsuit against Apple. If we were to replace the company name to Samsung, you would want them crucified into oblivion. Such hypocrisy runs rampant in these forums.
That's not the issue. The issue is that Apple employees lied to consumers. When consumers, such as I, said there's something different with the phone and it's slower than it has been once it was updated, we were led to believe that we were wrong and the phone is just fine. It turns out, Apple was behind the curtain purposely slowing down phones. Consumers, like myself, were correct all along. Something was different. It was intentionally different.
Also, a phone to not work at full capacity after a year of ownership, is a faulty product. A phone should not have to be throttled a year after ownership. That's nonsense.
And I've posted benchmarks for my numerous iPhones showing that none of them are throttling. Even with the battery at 50%. Guess I'm just lucky then? Personal anecdotes don't mean much. What will carry weight in court is data from Apple about things like how many devices are affected, how many people choose throttling when given a choice or how many of those $29 battery replacements were done.
This I agree with. Consumers aren't going to get a thing, while lawyers could pocket millions in fees. People are delusional if they think they're going to "win" anything from this.
Some people you just can't reach. Methinx they've watched far too many movies and have, as a result, gotten a horrible romanticized view of what a class action lawsuit is.
Bendgate and the Touch Decease class action cases dealt with something you can PHYSICALLY prove. This - yeah, not so much.
First you make the mistake of saying generally, so that means not all the time.
Next it seems to me you know little of electronics, even when a battery is 100% full you can ask too much load from it that the voltage will sag, even so far that the device switches off, example, if I have a battery which has 1000 cycles while 500 are generally where it starts to give, 100% would be down to 0% in no time cause the battery won't hold a decent charge anymore, and it can't deliver those currents needed, result, switch off.
This is true. I first went in early January to get a battery replacement for my iPhone 6 Plus at the main Barcelona Apple Store. I've been in at least five times since and made two official complaints (to the Apple Store, but which are registered with the city). Last time I went in - last week - I was informed that they had broken the internals of my phone -- which they had finally accepted for battery replacement the day previous. Now they say they are going to give me an iPhone 6S Plus as a replacement and that they'll email me when it arrives at their store. Meanwhile, I am having to use the phone they broke -- the earpiece speaker doesn't work at all!! I have to talk through speakerphone only, and there's something wrong with that as well because people on the other end can barely hear me and the sound goes in and out. All that and the phone is slower than ever for ALL processes - it can't even load webpages properly!
This isn't a joke Apple.
So prove it. Opinions are not evidence. Nothing is obvious or common sense when it comes to the law.
You seem to have fogotten the huge cut that Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel will take from any settlement (probably more than 50% of any moolah extracted from Apple IMHO)