is that plain or peanuts M&Ms?
It's not really about the money, is it? It's about the image apple has. This will tarnish it.
is that plain or peanuts M&Ms?
Personally I think it is only valid if Apple slowed a phone even if it had a good battery, which is not the case.
As much as I like Apple, and how I've been so loyal to their brand for over 2 decades, this is wrong. What's worse is people making comments like yours that see something like this as the customer's fault, and hope they lose the lawsuit against Apple. If we were to replace the company name to Samsung, you would want them crucified into oblivion. Such hypocrisy runs rampant in these forums.
Im not salty, but i did buy an iphone 7 plus because they bricked my iphone 6.
months later and some still dont understand what went wrong.................I can’t believe people are suing because they don’t understand how batteries work.
Apple is just plain wrong. How would you like to spend 100K on a Tesla and all of sudden your 3 year old car starts to slowdown and feel sluggish? Then you come to find out Tesla is slowing down ? I think not. Apple is in for a nice little ride. It really doesn't matter to Apple since they have tons of money and can pay their way out of this situation. Every 1 million customers Apple loses 2 million jump on board the Bandwagon called Apple.
This will def cost Apple millions of dollars. After paying lawyers and say $5 per person or something small like that. It will be millions spent easily.
It's not really about the money, is it? It's about the image apple has. This will tarnish it.
I can’t believe people are suing because they don’t understand how batteries work.
I'd bet that if Apple tried to sell customers a new battery, they'd end up with the same reaction. Customers would gripe about having to buy a new battery and would insist Apple should have included a better battery to begin with.it comes across as an up-sell. Compared to selling a battery, selling an iPhone to a consumer generates more profit
No-one buys a smartphone with the expectation it'll run as good as new after three years. Comparing a smartphone to a Tesla is just being horribly silly.
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You know what I meant.
At their current rate of sales, if the back-of-a-napkin math I just pulled together is roughly right, $100M = 1 days profit for Apple.
And that's assuming it even reaches settlement.
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Hahahahahahahaha!
Oh my, so funny....Oh, wait, you were being serious???
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You know what I meant.
I'm definitely not hating on Apple. Could they have said we are implementing this feature because of "xyz" sure, which probably would have gone over well for them.What if Apple had done nothing and just let phones start randomly crashing? Do you not think that there would have been a class action lawsuit?
And why weren't they straight forward? Because they would have had to acknowledge a defect.
But you are right, no laws were broken, but this is not a criminal case it's a civil case, and one Apple will lose.
Or maybe it is but nobody knows the answer. Not having the answer to something does NOT automatically make it complicated.So why is 5s not affected according to Apple, but 6 is? Lithium tech is the same right? The issue isn’t as simple as you or Apple wants it to be.
Even if your iPhone is affected, the performance limitations only happen intermittently, and only when the device is completing demanding tasks.
No-one buys a smartphone with the expectation it'll run as good as new after three years. Comparing a smartphone to a Tesla is just being horribly silly.
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At their current rate of sales, if the back-of-a-napkin math I just pulled together is roughly right, $100M = 1 days profit for Apple.
And that's assuming it even reaches settlement.
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Hahahahahahahaha!
Oh my, so funny....Oh, wait, you were being serious???
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That's one lofty claim you've got there.But you are right, no laws were broken, but this is not a criminal case it's a civil case, and one Apple will lose.
So what’s your point?!?!....they were still in the wrong and will have to pay for it...
Thanks for proving our point on why Apple should be punished. Customers would not notice the battery is the reason why their phone is so much slower. But if itvrandomly shutdown they would definitely carry it to apple for service.I'd bet that if Apple tried to sell customers a new battery, they'd end up with the same reaction. Customers would gripe about having to buy a new battery and would insist Apple should have included a better battery to begin with.
If it hadn't been for that Geekbench measurement going viral, I doubt many customers would have noticed a huge difference. But they DEFINITELY would have noticed their phone shutting down.
But you are right, no laws were broken, but this is not a criminal case it's a civil case, and one Apple will lose.
Plaintiff’s counsel will have to prove, not just say:
“Apple isn’t fooling anyone when they say the software updates were to save battery life,” said Wilshire Law Firm partner Colin Jones. “The only thing Apple was considering was improving their bottom line.”
- That iPhone owners in the class in fact experienced slowdowns in phone performance, or other events like shutdowns
- That the problems were the direct result of the specific update that adjusted the “dynamic power management” in the phones (This might require some forensics work to reveal a historical record of performance levels of the phone.)
- That the reduction in performance led directly to the consumer ditching their phone for an expensive new one before they normally would.
But that last one may be the hardest to prove of all. How does a plaintiff prove that a specific performance drop was the sole reason for heading to the Apple Store with a credit card?
Thanks for proving our point on why Apple should be punished. Customers would not notice the battery is the reason why their phone is so much slower. But if itvrandomly shutdown they would definitely carry it to apple for service.
So customers chalked up their phones being slow because it's old not because the battery is defective. Persuading them to upgrade.
Thanks for proving our point.
Are you seriously claiming that rechargeable batteries don't weaken in both capacity and voltage over time?How did the choice end up between crashes and slowdowns?
When a battery ages, it doesn't last as long, period. It shouldn't reduce performance, it shouldn't crash, it should just empty quicker.
Lol I am talking about proving it to you not the court of law. You yourself admit people wouldn't notice that their battery is defective because Apple slowed their phones down.https://www.fastcompany.com/4051325...-the-battery-issue-have-a-tough-case-to-prove
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No point has been proven here. You know how hard that is to prove IN A COURT OF LAW?
Lol I am talking about proving it to you not the court of law. You yourself admit people wouldn't notice that their battery is defective because Apple slowed their phones down.
And ironically, because of this, Apple will divert money that could be used to research better battery technology to blood sucking lawyers.
The point is that there's folk here who seem to think that, even IF this should get anywhere (big huge if), that it'll mean more than a hill of beans to Apple. Given how much revenue they make, and how much of this they'll write off etc., this will be no more than a light scratch to them.