Apple Now Letting Apple IDs With Third-Party Email Addresses Be Updated to Apple Email Addresses

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  1. AVonGauss macrumors regular

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    #401
    You sound like you keep wanting to think accounts merged, or things somehow moved which is not what happened. Think of this way...

    Apple ID 12345678 (some internal ID number)
    Primary: xyz@gmail.com
    Alias: abc@me.com
    Alias: abc@icloud.com

    After I changed my e-mail address from xyz@gmail.com to abc@me.com and removed the xyz@gmail.com address:

    Apple ID 12345678 (same internal ID number)
    Primary: abc@me.com
    Alias: abc@icloud.com

    Nothing moves, gets lost or anything similar since its still the same ID.
     
  2. davidg4781 macrumors 68020

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    #402
    I asked this earlier and don’t think I got an answer.

    What security risks are we opening by changing this from a third party email? If our account gets compromised, would I have a harder time getting back in?
     
  3. Civic Minded macrumors member

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    #403
    There's a place on your Apple ID settings page to set a recovery email. It's under security, and it's labeled as "notification email" for some dumb reason.
     
  4. davidg4781 macrumors 68020

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    #404
    Ahh. Yes. I remember seeing that. It’s currently a Yahoo email (is that secure?!) but I guess I can change it to gmail. My Apple ID is my gmail and I’d like to change it to iCloud.

    I’m actually surprised so many people use me emails. I hardly know anyone that uses an Apple email, let alone a me.

    I have a friend with a mac email. I get jealous every time I email her. I wish I had bought that years ago.
     
  5. Civic Minded, Nov 5, 2017
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    Civic Minded macrumors member

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    #405
    You and me both! :D I wish I had a .mac email also.
     
  6. Mac 128 macrumors 601

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    #406
    Yes but that gmail e-mail is itself an Apple ID. You've just said you were able to rename it the same thing as an existing e-mail address being used as an Apple ID. That's merging two accounts, since you're now calling them the same thing? How else could Apple tell two different accounts apart if they have the exact same name?
     
  7. AVonGauss macrumors regular

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    #407
    The change Apple made is to allow you to drop the third party e-mail address that was previously required and has NOTHING to do with merging two or more Apple accounts. In the prior example, you can see where I included an internal Apple ID number to help illustrate.
     
  8. Mac 128, Nov 7, 2017
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    #408
    You're still saying that your xyz@gmail Apple ID address became a pre-existing abc@me Apple ID address. You already had the abc@me Apple ID address, and changed your xyz@gmail Apple ID address to it. If that's not merging I don't know what is.

    I understand you can drop your third party email address, but it's still tied to a unique Apple ID account. As I understood it, you can now change that third party Apple ID address to a new Apple e-mail address (whereas before you could only change it to another third party address), but the account and everything connected to it has to remain separate from your other existing accounts. In your example you go from 3 Apple IDs to 2. That's merging accounts, which is not possible.

    What I think you mean is that you went from an abc@gmail.com Apple ID to xyz@me.com Apple ID, since you already had an abc@me.com Apple ID account. That's where I think the confusion began with the OP. You still have three separate Apple IDs and accounts, but now all three are Apple email addresses, rather than two Apple and a gmail.

    Apple ID 12345678 (some internal ID number) --> Apple ID 12345678 (same internal ID number)
    Primary: xyz@gmail.com --------------------------> New Alias: xyz@me.com
    Alias: abc@me.com --------------------------------> Primary: abc@me.com
    Alias: abc@icloud.com -----------------------------> Alias: abc@icloud.com
     
  9. AVonGauss macrumors regular

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    #409
    No, I meant exactly what I said in the last 3 or 4 posts. Using your graphic...

    Apple ID 12345678 (some internal ID number) --> Apple ID 12345678 (same internal ID number)
    Primary: xyz@gmail.com --------------------------> (Gone)
    Alias: abc@me.com --------------------------------> Primary: abc@me.com
    Alias: abc@icloud.com -----------------------------> Alias: abc@icloud.com[/QUOTE]

    STEPS

    1) Login using xyz@gmail.com
    2) Click "Edit" for the Account section
    3) Click "Change Email Address…" link
    4) Select "abc@me.com" e-mail address
    5) Remove "xyz@gmail.com" from "Reachable At..." section
    6) Go through Apple ID change hell on all devices (aka - didn't sign out first)

    There is only one Apple ID involved at all times...
     
  10. Polydactyl macrumors member

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    #410
    I think one possibilty is that if you used one of those aliases in the past to sign into the app store, then apple converted the alias to a seperate appleid. Several years ago I inadvertantly “bought” El Capitan on my iMac not realizing I was signed in to the app store with my @me adress instead of my @gmail. Just my theory.
     
  11. AVonGauss macrumors regular

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    #411
    I use to use the "abc@me.com" alias to sign in to iCloud / iTunes for several years, I only stopped doing so a couple of months ago since it was causing more pain than benefit with some devices / services.
     
  12. Mac 128 macrumors 601

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    Then you never used abc@me.com to ever purchase anything through iTunes. You basically took an unused email account and converted it to your active Apple ID. In essence you did merge the two Apple IDs. Had you made any purchases with the abc@me.com you would have lost them.

    My confusion was that I assumed you were doing the same thing as I am. I have a yahoo Apple ID, a @Mac Apple ID, a @me/iCloud Apple ID. All of which have purchases, and none of them can be merged.
     
  13. lozion macrumors regular

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    #413
    Never could get this going, trying on my Mac Pro now to no avail..
    Frustrating.
     
  14. AVonGauss macrumors regular

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    #414
    Not sure, all I can say is I didn't sign out of the iDevices first and used one of the Macs to do the change through their appleid.apple.com website.
     
  15. davidg4781 macrumors 68020

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    #415
    Done. Easy. I just had to sign out of iPhone, 2 Apple TVs, Apple Watch. I didn't bother with my PowerPCs as they've been put away for over a year now :(.

    The scary part?? When I signed in to appleid.apple.com and it said it's sending me a verification code. All my devices were signed out and nothing came through!!

    I saw a link to request one via SMS. But I think I lost 3 days of my life right there.
     
  16. cfurlin macrumors regular

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    I did the same thing you did and I'm still getting the "can't make the change at this time" message after 4 days.

    Also, Apple's instructions say to click "Change email address" and then select the new one from the list, but there is no list. It makes me type in an email address. I have another email address in the "Reachable at" section (the one I set up using your method) but it won't let me use it.
     
  17. jbachandouris macrumors 601

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    #417
    I changed from my gmail Apple ID to my iCloud email address. iTunes still prompts for the old Apple ID (Gmail). When I click 'Account,' the new email shows. At a loss.
     
  18. whsbuss macrumors 68040

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    #418
    Try logging out, restarting the device, and log back in
     
  19. howtochangemyid macrumors newbie

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    #419
    I created new iCloud account on my iPhone (with new address that I want to use) and can't add it as "Reachable at..".

    It says,
    "This email address is not available. Choose a different address".

    My current address is iCloud as well. Any ideas? Is it 30 days limit for new accounts? Can I speed up the process?
     
  20. cfurlin macrumors regular

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    I think the "process" may be designed to DISCOURAGE people from using iCloud. :rolleyes:
     
  21. jbachandouris, Nov 11, 2017
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    jbachandouris macrumors 601

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    That worked. Thanks!!!

    The 'device' is my rMBP.
     
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  23. ShubhamBadal macrumors newbie

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    #423
    I use a gmail address as my Apple ID. I recently made an icloud address using my mac. Now I wanted to change my Apple ID to my icloud address today.


    I found these official instructions.
    https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202667


    I did whatever was mentioned there. I signed out Apple ID on my mac. I don't have any other apple device. And I went to the apple ID site to make the change but it only gives me the following error.


    "Your Apple ID cannot be updated at this time. Please try again later."


    If that matters, yes my icloud address is added as secondary address for my Apple account and I can login using this address. But I want this as my primary address not the gmail one. I have tried changing multiple times but nothing happens other than that error. Please help!
     
  24. cfurlin macrumors regular

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    For some of us, I don't think we'll ever see it resolved. Better get used to that gmail account. I've given up.
     
  25. ShubhamBadal macrumors newbie

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    #425
    Hi cfurlin, Are you also getting the exact same error? How many others are getting the same error? I have not found any help online yet for this error. Maybe not many are getting this kind of error. I don't even know the technical reason why this may be happening to me. This is quite frustrating for me. Also it looks like there are people who were able to successfully change their Apple ID to their icloud address.

    RESPONSE FROM APPLE SUPPORT: I called Apple Support today and they gave some vague answer that I am able to login using your icloud address so that is the maximum I can do. I explained them I wanted this icloud address as my primary email ID so that all Apple email will land on this ID but they don't seem to understand. They looked confused and told my icloud address is also my Apple ID because it is listed under 'reachable at' so it cannot be used as primary ID. They told I can only change it to any other third party address but not icloud. I showed them the apple support article which discussed the new option to change third party address to icloud address. Perhaps the support guys themselves had no idea about this new update from apple.

    I am new to Apple, bought my first Mac this month. I thought Apple support guys must be better (and smarter) than other support teams (like Windows) but I guess they are also the same just like other companies. Some clueless people struggling to do their job who have no update about ongoing issues.
     

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