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Apple Obsoletes 2010 Mac Pro, Time Capsule (4th Gen) and AirPort Extreme (5th Gen)

IPPlanMan said:
Still can't believe Apple shut down development of the Time Capsule and AirPort line altogether.

Makes me wonder if anyone at Apple really focuses on the user experience anymore. Not everyone wants to or can send things to the the Cloud.
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Besides Mesh, what advancements have come in networking? Between the 4th and 5th gen, I think there was just some minor antenna design, from what I can find online. From what I've read, Mesh can be really good or not so great. That may be why Apple isn't going after that.

Apple has to follow industry standards with wifi. Unless there's something great and new, there's no need to update. I wish they wouldn't have disbanded the unit all together. When the next standard is ready I want Apple at the front of the pack.
 
I wish Time Capsule can be used as a WiFi client to an existing WiFi network (e.g., Eero), functioning solely as a Time Machine backup server, AirDisk, wireless printer/storage hub, and Ethernet hub.
 
vipergts2207 said:
Count me as another with a 3rd gen TC that’s still performing admirably. If Apple ever gets around to updating the TC again I’ll probably upgrade at that point. I’ll move the old one downstairs to extend the network.
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How do we tell what generation Airport Extreme we have? I've had mine for 2 years and it works just fine. Firmware was updated last December.
 
With the arguable exception of the 2012 MP "upgrade," these obsoleted models were the immediate predecessors of the currently offered models and on the shelf, at Apple, through much of 2013. Is this new territory, or have there been a lot of cases in Apple's history where the currently offered models are the only ones in the series that aren't definitionally obsolete?
 
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Darmok N Jalad said:
Not only can you then install High Sierra, but you can upgrade to the six core Xeons and 1333 RAM.
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Not entirely true. While 5,1 does support 1333mhz ram in firmware, it's still dependent on the processor to support running at that speed. The entry level 2010s only supported 1066. That's a CPU limitation.
 
Major suckage!! I've continued to put $$ into my Mid 2010 Dual Quad Mac Pro.
I recently added a 2TB PCI SSD that screams.. and a GeForce 1080 Video card.. don't all I can to maximize the life of this workhorse.. None of the current offerings were able to convince me to drop $5K+ all the $$ on peripherals I'd need to replace the current caps. I mean, I don't have 4 "thunderbolt" monitors.. so, I'd have to get what? Adaptors? New monitors? External drive bays... etc.

We will see what this "next thing" ends up being.. maybe it will finally convince me to update...
 
Ted13 said:
Same for my 2009 Mac Pro - I am hoping the next years "Modular" Mac Pro will have the same ability to continually add larger storage capacity as I have on my 9 year old Mac Pro, which currently can have 40+ TerraBytes of internal storage, including a fast SSD boot drive that didn't exist in '09, Blu-ray drive Apple never supported, etc. etc.
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How did you install High Sierra on a 2009 MacPro? - it was limited to El Capitan...
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Possibly using the dosdude1 Sierra patcher
 
Don't worry Apple. You can obsolete it. We Mac Pro cheese grater user already getting used with tinkering and modding including hardware and firmware, thanks to it's design : an proper desktop mac computer.

Your obsolete product have more powerful GPU from any released macs with 1080ti / RX480. Hand-off and continuity working with official Broadcom BT card. 10GbE networking can be done with SmallTree NIC / manually flashed NIC. Speedy SSD can be done via Amfeltec squid PCIE cards or official SSUBX. And many more.

And Mid 2012 still supported right? Since they exactly same model with different years release only, at least replacement parts (backplane board, CPU tray, PSU, etc) still available for some years.
 
I don’t get why they dismantled the wireless router division. Maybe it didn’t make that much profit but it was useful for Mac users.
 
So the obsolete list continues to grow.

Does it make any difference? Not at all.

Just because Apple deem in their wisdom to obsolete a product that cost $2000 does not deplete its productivity. All my Macs are obsolete iMac 21.5" Late 2009, iMac 24" Early 2008 and Mac Mini Late 2006 but all continue to play a daily productive role.

As we move ever further forward all the decent Macs will become obsolete and the list of supported Macs will become the current pseudo fashion machines such as the modern MacBook and MacBook Pro.

There has never been a better time to pick up a 27" 2015 5k Retina iMac or 15" 2014 Retina MacBook Pro. Thunderbolt 2, USB 3.0 etc....useful stuff like that.
 
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All that obsolete status means is they won’t repair it. Usually because by this time new quality parts aren’t readily available. They can’t just keep supporting products forever. This has always been the case with Apple.

It’s frustrating because I was willing to pay to have my LED Cinema Display repaired. But it’s obsolete. And I’m stuck with 2 bad USB ports.
 
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I took a mini into the Apple Store and they turned me away for EOL. Dunno why I took their word for it, because it wasn't actually EOL for many months after. By the time I found out, it had been recycled.
 
skitidetdu said:
Haven't checked the high sierra patch but in Sierra my wifi would stop working...could live without it of course but still...what else do I risk losing?
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WiFi is a known issue. Under Sierra I had no issues at all apart from it. With High Sierra I had to reapply the patch in order to update to 10.13.1, which some might find inconvenient. Also if you have an old AMD GPU like me (5770), there are some glitches with PDF quick view and in preview.

So to be on the safe side I would probably stick with Sierra, since High Sierra does not provide a lot of important features. But having the latest OS on a 10 year old machine sure is exciting :D
 
My loyal cheesegrater workhorse that is still serving me well is going to be part of history. Loved this design and flexibility to upgrade parts so easily. I wonder what Tim would have done to the Mac Pro at that time if he had been in charge...mmm?
 
Well my 12-core Mid-2010 is still going strong. A USB port has failed for some reason, both other than that it's fine. Boots off a 256GB SSD and has a 1TB storage HD, a 1TB Time Machine backup HD and a GTX980Ti GPU. I'm currently modelling in SpeedTree, rendering in Cinema 4D, typing up a review in Word, getting mail and surfing the web. You might call it obsolete, but it's still my day-to-day workhorse.

However I don't think I'll be upgrading to High Sierra (not worth the risk/reward), and it'll be joined next month by an iMac Pro. Then it'll be on renderfarm and storage duties. Can't sell the old fella; best computer I ever owned.
 
SteveW928 said:
Sooo.... if one were to buy a 2013 Mac Pro now, how long before Apple 'obsoletes' it?
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Draeconis said:
Under Apple’s current guidelines and depending where in the world you are, roughly 2020.
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I thought it was 5 years after retail sale? 2010 last sold in 2012 +5 years = 2017

So 2013 Mac Pro looks like it will still be sold in 2018...... +5 years = obsolete in 2023
 
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