Apple Obsoletes Mid 2010 15-Inch and 17-Inch MacBook Pros

[eyeseeyou]

Might be time to try to move my early MacBook 2011
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Well, my early 2011 17" MacBook Pro will probably be on the list next time around. Still love this computer. 16GB RAM and a speedy 512MB SSD upgrade has done wonders for keeping it fast and able to handle the current OS.

I've been contemplating upgrading the ram on my early 2011 MacBook to 16gb's but honestly can't think of a reason I really need to. It already operates pretty quick and smooth with an ssd and 8gbs of ram.

Do you have any specific applications that have benefited from the additional ram?

 

[2499723]

I look forward to people pointing out how powerful their 2010 Macbook is they've owned for 5 years and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

What, because they don't buy a new Mac every two years makes their complaints invalid? Maybe they find value in other things rather than proving to the rest of the world how consumerist they are. It's pleasing to know that you'll always be up to date with the latest and greatest products, though. I was slightly concerned for Apple's future there for a second.
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[doublepost=1457484191][/doublepost]Bwahahaha - so it seems a lot of people think because Apple is run by Liberals, that they will be YOUR FRIEND, and not take every opportunity to stick it to you - just like all the "other guys" do. Ahhhhh that smell of coffee when you all wake up and smell it. Bwahahahaha, thanks for the laugh, all of you, that are STUNNED by the tactics of "business" NO MATTER who runs it.

Are you okay?

 

[MacBH928]

and here I am punching on my 2008 macbook...

 

[beebarb]

'Meh'.
This is just the hardware support.

While I don't have a 2010 MBP, it does get me thinking about my 2012 iMac.
I generally plan to have computers used for about 10 years, as it takes a while for me to get the extra funds together to buy them.

On one hand, what if something breaks when it becomes obsolete?
On the other, as long as it still runs what I need it to, I'll be happy.

 

[maxsix]

Take my house, my car (and my x-wife) but you better not touch my 17” MBP. I bought mine in 2009 maxed out with SSD and RAM. And it’s running El Capitan with no problem. This thing is gorgeous to look at and works nicely for what I want it to do. Why Apple has ignored 17” MBPs is beyond me?? Damn it Apple, bring back a new 17” MBP and give people what they really want!!!

I've purchased and enjoyed each of the new 17" MBP models upon their release. In my experience using them heavily for the resource intense work I do, they were far and away the best laptops I've owned.

It seems that perhaps they were too well designed, too trouble free to generate the headlines Apple is addicted to. The lack of controversy seemed to be their downfall.

If ever they were offered again, I and more than twenty of my counterparts at work would immediately buy one. We loved them.

Amongst the various models they sold well, yet not enough to suit Apple's ego.

 

[Tech198]

yes ok.. obsolete the hardware, but still allow backward compatibility in newer OS's to run on them....

And here I thought Apple didn't care about backward compatibility, or rather its more "selective" which is why u can't have outdated iTunes 12.2.1 (software) and unable to sync to a 9.2.1 iOS device, without updating itunes to the latest, but u CAN run newer versions of OS on old hardware...

That makes perfect sense ......... .... (not really)

 

[chukronos]

And, they still run great. I cannot believe that my in-laws are still running theirs after all this time. A true testament to the quality of macs. They were going through Dells every year to year and a half (the in-laws are old). They are still using their first macbook pro.

 

[Tech198]

And i've been using a 2008 Dell desktop every day in addition, and it never needed repairs to the present.

 

[lazypoet]

And i've been using a 2008 Dell desktop every day in addition, and it never needed repairs to the present.

Does this mean I can't really resell my Macbook Pro MID 2010 with a SSD and a newly service that changed the motherboard? (meaning it's like...new)

 

[vladi]

Discontinuation of 17' was such a stupid decision. I know at the time it was all about portability and ultrabook hype was around the corner but today's 17 inchers offered by some PC companies are awesome desktop replacements that are thin and light. I for a fact know few Mac people that will not replace their 17s as long as they run.

 

[mashdots]

Welp, there goes my macbook pro. I'm going to hold onto it until it dies. :3

 

[drbroom]

yet another reason I will not update anything apple anymore...

Used to bleed in 6 colors now just crying in 6

 

[LordVic]

5 1/2 years of hardware support seems reasonable.

For the laptops, probably

but for the Xserves? Yeeesh. Server hardware that can no longer be reasonably maintained due to their companies abandonment will need to be replaced in enterprise / corporate. You cannot have an unsupported hardware operating production ready items.

 

[LogicalVue]

Because you haven't been reading the thread (or the same thread that comes up every few months)...

Devices go on the Vintage list 5 years after the model was last manufactured. No exceptions. No judgements are being made about the components used in that model. The factory line stops moving, and the Vintage & Obsolete clock starts ticking.

It's not a judgement about the quality of the unit. It's simply the date after which Apple stops carrying replacement parts and stops offering repair service. It's an across-the-board policy.

That makes sense, but according to EveryMac.com, the 2010 13" Macbook Pro was discontinued on Feb 24, 2011 same as the other 2010 Macbook models.

 

[rkanaga]

I'm running El Cap on an upgraded 8 core 2006 Mac Pro with 32gb ram and an SSD

Runs really fast, but I suspect this would be classified as an antique by Apple!

 

[kwikdeth]

IIRC, at the time they simply werent selling well... i seem to recall hearing they only sold 50K of the last model they put out. everybody wanted the 13" at the time, that's still the case for the most part.

ive never heard of any overheating issues with the 2010 models and the GPU... 2011s however, with the Radeon... which is a shame because those are really the creme de la creme as far as 17"s go... quad-core CPU, SATA-3, Thunderbolt AND an expresscard slot? do an optical drive swap and you could have RAID0 SSD speeds.... risky yes, insanely fast, OH YEAH.

 

[tripmusic]

I'd take one of those. I still have an '08 model. Lol

 

[0098386]

My 17inch (Early 2009) MacBook Pro doesn't feel 'obsolete', in fact with an SSD installed it performs admirably for normal use, it's just the CPU that feels a little sluggish compared to today.

I think we're getting to that point now. I've felt no need to upgrade my iPad, 3rd gen - the first one with a retina display, or my iMac, 2011 27" but maxed out at least. The next time I upgrade my main computer is when VR lands and I'll need a powerful video card.

It's funny how something simple like an SSD can make a computer feel new.

 

[jblagden]

Because you haven't been reading the thread (or the same thread that comes up every few months)...

Devices go on the Vintage list 5 years after the model was last manufactured. No exceptions. No judgements are being made about the components used in that model. The factory line stops moving, and the Vintage & Obsolete clock starts ticking.

It's not a judgement about the quality of the unit. It's simply the date after which Apple stops carrying replacement parts and stops offering repair service. It's an across-the-board policy.

And once your Mac is vintage or obsolete, you'll have to go to an AASP for repairs instead of Apple. But that's fine with me. For me, the nearest Apple Store is an hour away while the nearest AASP is 10 minutes away.

 

[jblagden]

while i cant speak to a specific processor, the reasons for longevity of certain machines over others frequently has to do with the production of parts associated to the machine. It may shock you to hear that Intel still makes LGA775 socket CPUs... but they do, in limited quantities. Processors like an i7-620M are low margin, low volume, high price items.... easily discontinued to make room for new production lines. Things like an ancient Core2Duo, while heinously obsolete, still get produced in quantity because its low cost/high volume, and has the inventory stock to back it up.

Think of it in terms like, a high end sports car that gets revised often, compared to a low cost economy vehicle which can go years at a time with no significant changes.

And back then, you actually could replace a MacBook's CPU. But Apple started soldering them to the logic board in 2011, which is when I got my first (and current) MacBook Pro.

 

[andiwm2003]

And some of us have money to spend but refuse to give it to Apple for products which we consider underwhelming.

Once upon a time Apple used to offer for instance great, upgradable laptops with dedicated graphic cards running 17" displays and Mac Pros which deserved the name.

Now we have MBP with 'tiny' screens and integrated graphics and MACs which are getting thinner instead of becoming more powerful, especially graphics wise.

Sorry, I could and would have upgraded. But not for the luke warm stuff Cook and Ive are coming up with.

5400 RPM HDs, integrated graphics (optional graphic cards at best mediocre) soldered RAM, etc. Sheesh.

+1
I guess I would upgrade every 3 years if the notebooks would inprove. But now the upgrades are rather miniscule if you don't count thinner as and upgrade. On the flipside this is a testament for OSX and the notebooks being very mature.

 

[Dimwhit]

Might be time to try to move my early MacBook 2011
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I've been contemplating upgrading the ram on my early 2011 MacBook to 16gb's but honestly can't think of a reason I really need to. It already operates pretty quick and smooth with an ssd and 8gbs of ram.

Do you have any specific applications that have benefited from the additional ram?

Hard to say. I did the RAM upgrade same time as the hard drive. Does great with things like Photoshop and video editing. But if yours is plenty speedy with the 8GBs, there's definitely no reason to upgrade. It was probably overkill for me.

 

[ZubaZ]

Obsolete?
My MacbookPro Mid 2010 still works perfectly!

I decide when it becomes obsolete

 

[dannys1]

And some of us have money to spend but refuse to give it to Apple for products which we consider underwhelming.

Once upon a time Apple used to offer for instance great, upgradable laptops with dedicated graphic cards running 17" displays and Mac Pros which deserved the name.

Now we have MBP with 'tiny' screens and integrated graphics and MACs which are getting thinner instead of becoming more powerful, especially graphics wise.

Sorry, I could and would have upgraded. But not for the luke warm stuff Cook and Ive are coming up with.

5400 RPM HDs, integrated graphics (optional graphic cards at best mediocre) soldered RAM, etc. Sheesh.

But I don't want (and never did) a 17" laptop (and neither did many others which is why they were discontinued) and I no longer have a need for a Mac Pro (I loved my G5 but with Thunderbolt 2 my iMac can do all it did and more)

Each to their own though dude.

 

[Phoenixx]

it WILL be a major problem for owners of later MacBook pros when it happens to those models as when the battery dies but the computer is perfectly serviceable they will have no options due to that ridiculous glued in battery that requires replacement of half the shell of the computer along with the keyboard and trackpad. I don't see third party manufacturers stepping in to fill the gap.

I was thinking a similar thing. First Apple lowers the build quality standards of their hardware, and make laptops and all in ones that are almost unrepairable, then they refuse to service them 5 years later. Obviously Apple have great confidence that their recent hardware simply will not last.

Sorry Apple, but the length of time a computer will last for is a major part of a purchasing decision for most people. One of the good things about Apple hardware is that this wasn't a problem in the past. Apple products were well known for their build quality. Not any longer though, now Apple computers are so cheaply made that they are stuck together with glue.