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Interesting to hear how effective the SSD upgrade is for so many people.

I would suggest that the power of SSD has actually caused a regression in computer technology. Why? Because it is such a powerful and easy upgrade, that there is no advantage to be gained from tweaking the chips by a few percent each year. Therefore, there is little incentive for companies to bring out new models, and stagnation arises. Hence the lack of interesting developments in desktops and laptops for the past decade or so.

You may be right. I think the big issue is that, the last few years, spinning platter hard drives became too much of a bottleneck. Doesn't really matter how fast the processor is if the hard drive just slows it all down. SSDs eliminated that bottleneck in a huge way.

I put the SSD in my machine 2-3 years ago. Before, I was getting constant spinning beachballs. It was night and day after the SSD install. Now, my computer is still really fast. I figure I should get another 3 years out of it at least. Unless Apple decides it doesn't want to support it with the newer OSes. Which would suck.
 
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This latest list goes further to suggest that OS X 10.12 will not be compatible with many older generation Macs.

This doesn't suggest anything of the kind. The list doesn't reflect on the computer's capability, just apple's willingness to manufacture parts and repair it. El Cap can be installed on 2007-era Macs.
 
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Yeah because they're right to do so if there's no technical reason.

Personally I'm switching away from the Mac anyway due to the 'dumbing down' of OS X and vendor-lockin. I still have my MBP 2010 to try out new OS X versions. I'll probably put Linux on it soon. But it is a totally capable piece of hardware, there's no reason it shouldn't still work with current OS X versions.

My used 2010 Unibody Macbook (7,1) is being readied for Debian. I specifically bought this particular Macbook for this purpose. Will upgrade to an SSD and more RAM soon. ^.^
 
Some of us just like upgrading cos we've got money to spend...

And some of us have money to spend but refuse to give it to Apple for products which we consider underwhelming.

Once upon a time Apple used to offer for instance great, upgradable laptops with dedicated graphic cards running 17" displays and Mac Pros which deserved the name.

Now we have MBP with 'tiny' screens and integrated graphics and MACs which are getting thinner instead of becoming more powerful, especially graphics wise.

Sorry, I could and would have upgraded. But not for the luke warm stuff Cook and Ive are coming up with.

5400 RPM HDs, integrated graphics (optional graphic cards at best mediocre) soldered RAM, etc. Sheesh. :confused::mad:
 
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I look forward to people pointing out how powerful their 2010 Macbook is they've owned for 5 years and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

Edit: And indeed they did - about 10 people quoted me to tell me how amazing their 2010 Macbook's are. Good for you guys....good for you!
Nope 11.
I'd like to point out how powerful my 2010 MacBook is that I owned for 5 years and there is no........
 
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Apple has updated its vintage and obsolete products list with three new products: MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010), and Xserve (Early 2009).

The older notebooks and server rack hardware are now classified as vintage in the United States and Turkey, and obsolete in the rest of the world, according to Apple.

Macs and other products on the vintage and obsolete list are generally no longer eligible for hardware service, but OS X El Capitan still supports many older Macs back to Mid 2007. Apple defines vintage products as those that have not been manufactured for more than five but less than seven years.

The new additions come less than three months after Apple obsoleted select early 2008 to late 2009 Macs, including the iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009), iMac (27-inch, Late 2009), MacBook Air (Mid 2009), Mac Pro (Early 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Early 2008), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008), and MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008).

The MacBook Pro models obsoleted today were originally announced on April 13, 2010. Read how to identify your MacBook Pro model.

Article Link: Apple Obsoletes Mid 2010 15-Inch and 17-Inch MacBook Pros
[doublepost=1457484191][/doublepost]Bwahahaha - so it seems a lot of people think because Apple is run by Liberals, that they will be YOUR FRIEND, and not take every opportunity to stick it to you - just like all the "other guys" do. Ahhhhh that smell of coffee when you all wake up and smell it. Bwahahahaha, thanks for the laugh, all of you, that are STUNNED by the tactics of "business" NO MATTER who runs it.
 
I look forward to people pointing out how powerful their 2010 Macbook is they've owned for 5 years and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

Edit: And indeed they did - about 10 people quoted me to tell me how amazing their 2010 Macbook's are. Good for you guys....good for you!

Make that "about 11" (or more -- haven't gone back and counted them all)...

I've owned my 17" 2010 MacBook Pro for over 5 years and it's plenty powerful for me and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

I love the large sized screen, and it really runs super well still. I have a 1TB SSD inside, so that helps. They don't make the 17" anymore, so I'm trying to hold on to this as long as I can.

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You may be right. I think the big issue is that, the last few years, spinning platter hard drives became too much of a bottleneck. Doesn't really matter how fast the processor is if the hard drive just slows it all down. SSDs eliminated that bottleneck in a huge way.

I put the SSD in my machine 2-3 years ago. Before, I was getting constant spinning beachballs. It was night and day after the SSD install. Now, my computer is still really fast. I figure I should get another 3 years out of it at least. Unless Apple decides it doesn't want to support it with the newer OSes. Which would suck.

For me the SSD upgrade made a world of difference. Best money I ever spent on a computer part. I have had that SSD for about 4 years now. Still working wonderfully :)
 
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Damn!!!

I've been going back & forth the last three months about selling mine, I thought it was going to happen in November becoming obsolete.

Everything is new this past December

-480GB OWC SSD
-8GB Ram
-New Genuine apple battery 5 charge count
-New Genuine apple charger

Just didn't replace the keyboard

I wanted close to $600.00, guess that won't happen now on Ebay.
 
My late '08 MBP is on its last leg. I can't handle to many things going on at one time.

upgrade that thing with SSD and 4GB of memory and it will be good. If my Acer laptop with Celeron processor, ssd and 4GB of RAM can handle Windows 10 with ease and multitasking at acceptable speed, then your 08MBP can handle it. If OS X cannot do, Windows 10 will do.
 
I look forward to people pointing out how powerful their 2010 Macbook is they've owned for 5 years and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

And there is a lot of truth in that - If you're doing any sort of 'normal computing' Any Mac from 2007/2008 (excluding those that don't support anything higher than 10.7) with upgraded RAM and an SSD should be more than capable.

There is no reason for Apple to discontinue OSX support for any Mac UNTIL it is is impossible to support them. Microsoft supports computers up to 12 years old with Windows 10 that is supposedly (according to the Apple diehards) more bloated than OSX. Given how much you pay for a Mac you'd hope that support was good, and that Apple doesn't arbitrarily cut Macs off support (like they did to my then 3.5 year old White Macbook in 2012).

Not that this article is about OSX support anyway.
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Just waiting for all the Intel Macs to be obsolete and replaced by ARM Macs instead. ;)

That would be a crappy situation.
 
You know I realize we can't expect Apple to carry parts for all machines forever, but it seems like it would be reasonable to at least perform battery replacements for 10 years. This would be especially useful on newer machines that we can't just do it ourselves.

There's a valid reason for this. Say the technician putting in your battery breaks something else while working on the machine (it happens, especially as plastic can become quite brittle over time) but can't get replacement parts. Now what?
 
When Apple puts out another 17" MacBook Pro, I'll buy a new laptop. For now, I'll just keep on using my obsolete system until I can't anymore.
 
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I look forward to people pointing out how powerful their 2010 Macbook is they've owned for 5 years and there is no technical reason it couldn't run the latest OS X version and Tim Cook is too greedy and and and and...

Edit: And indeed they did - about 10 people quoted me to tell me how amazing their 2010 Macbook's are. Good for you guys....good for you!
I used a 2007 MacBook Pro up until 2014. Did everything I needed it to do until the motherboard fried. Had that not happened, I'd probably still be using it.
 
Interesting to hear how effective the SSD upgrade is for so many people.

I would suggest that the power of SSD has actually caused a regression in computer technology...

This. My maxed out 2015 MBP feels marginally faster than my maxed out 2010 17" MBP.

15" vs 17" display, 16 vs 8 GB ram, 1TB vs 512GB Apple SSD, USB 2 vs 3, Ethernet port on the 2010.

After five years this machine is only "obsolete", because Apple decides it is.
 
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Nothing new, Apple has used this planned obsolescence model for years. It's part of their highly successful marketing practices.

It adds to the elitist snob appeal factor that you see in many forums. Notice the comment above, looking down on those who like the model they have, calling them "cheap as..es".
 
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Nothing new, Apple has used this planned obsolescence model for years. It's part of their highly successful marketing practices.

It adds to the elitist snob appeal factor that you see in many forums. Notice the comment above, looking down on those who like the model they have, calling them "cheap as..es".
Nothing cheap about not buying what you don't want.

I would refer to those detractors as "Sheep".
 
Oh man. I can feel the bony hand of obsolecence reaching out for my 2011 Mac Mini...
As I wrote already somewhere else, I own an i7 2011 with dedicated GPU graphics and it is so powerful that it is embarrassing for the current 2014 models. It is the last Mac that was approved by Steve. So, it is time to sell it now and move on but I am kind of emotionally attached to it...
 
Take my house, my car (and my x-wife) but you better not touch my 17” MBP. I bought mine in 2009 maxed out with SSD and RAM. And it’s running El Capitan with no problem. This thing is gorgeous to look at and works nicely for what I want it to do. Why Apple has ignored 17” MBPs is beyond me?? Damn it Apple, bring back a new 17” MBP and give people what they really want!!!
 
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